RE: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-27 Thread Horn, John
From: David Land [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] What's that come to in skoshes? How about in smoots? - jmh ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-26 Thread David Hobby
Keith Henson wrote: I'm not sure I agree, but I like the biological parallels here! Ghod knows I have been making them long enough. My first article on this subject was published in Analog Aug 1987. ... Taking your last point first, I'd say that it would now be more

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-26 Thread Damon Agretto
So the claim would be that during the Dark Ages in Europe (Hi, Damon!), Why you little... Damon. __ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-26 Thread William T Goodall
On 26 May 2004, at 12:45 pm, David Hobby wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Correct, but *after* the date some of them get more into recruiting. The JWs are an example. I think the more common behavior is pushing back the predicted date of the apocalypse. But I guess one can only do this so many

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-26 Thread The Fool
-- From: David Hobby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Keith Henson wrote: Got me, what is the difference between disease organisms and parasites? If the individuals are sufficiently large, we call them parasites, and if they are small enough, we don't? My pet cat is clearly a parasite.

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-26 Thread David Land
David Hobby wrote: I think the more common behavior is pushing back the predicted date of the apocalypse. But I guess one can only do this so many times. Indeed: http://www.freeminds.org/history/list.htm Amazing. Especially for people who claim to speak with the authority of God,

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-26 Thread Keith Henson
At 07:45 AM 26/05/04 -0400, David wrote: Keith Henson wrote: snip You might be right on this point, but there were a lot of dangerous cults about in the past. For example the children's crusades in 1212 resulted in a few tens of thousands dying. So the claim would be that during the

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-26 Thread Keith Henson
At 09:38 PM 26/05/04 -0400, I wrote: Try scientology discordians OTO masons mormons in Google. Sorry, Google.groups. Keith ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Cults vs Religions, was Bullying and Battering

2004-05-25 Thread Keith Henson
At 11:09 PM 25/05/04 -0400, you wrote: Keith Henson wrote: snip The distinction between cults and religions is real and useful. Cults are outright parasites, religions are the same mental parasites that have co-evolved with their hosts long enough to become more useful than harmful. Takes