RE: Polygamy

2008-02-06 Thread Pat Mathews
://idiotgrrl.livejournal.com/ Date: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 21:48:11 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: brin-l@mccmedia.com Subject: Re: Polygamy hkhenson wrote: At 01:00 PM 2/4/2008, Alberto wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-06 Thread hkhenson
At 01:00 PM 2/6/2008, David Hobby wrote: Keith wrote: This does not square with field anthropology. Polygamy is well known in cultures where female infanticide and distorted sex ratios are prevalent. Polygamy greatly exacerbated women's scarcity and direct and indirect male

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-05 Thread hkhenson
At 01:00 PM 2/4/2008, Alberto wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority of the cultures in the world, it's an interesting question how the western countries, and a few others, became monogamous. It seems to be associated with settled

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-05 Thread David Hobby
hkhenson wrote: At 01:00 PM 2/4/2008, Alberto wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority of the cultures in the world, it's an interesting question how the western countries, and a few others, became monogamous. It seems to be associated

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-04 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Feb 2008, at 05:10, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 4 Feb 2008, at 03:24, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority of the cultures in the world, it's

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-04 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 4 Feb 2008, at 05:10, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 4 Feb 2008, at 03:24, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-04 Thread William T Goodall
: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority of the cultures in the world, it's an interesting question how the western countries, and a few others, became monogamous. It seems to be associated with settled agriculture but I don't know if there is a connection or why. I would

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-04 Thread Julia Thompson
Monteiro wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority of the cultures in the world, it's an interesting question how the western countries, and a few others, became monogamous. It seems to be associated with settled agriculture but I don't know

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-04 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Feb 2008, at 15:50, Julia Thompson wrote: Oh, OK. All I was operating on was anecdotal evidence, which was *very* heavily biased towards lesbians. Thank you for the information! Anecdotal evidence is unreliable. Thirty men and women started a computer science degree with me and by

Number of gays [was: Polygamy]

2008-02-04 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
William T Goodall wrote: So by my personal experience of college and the workplace up to that point I'd have to say between 10% and 17% (at least) of men were gay. Let's be non-scientific! I remember, at school, that every class had one or two gay men, and no lesbians. In classes of 40 to 60

Polygamy

2008-02-04 Thread jon louis mann
, as long as they don't get caught breaking the law. american institutions, often recognize and practice judeo-christian traditions, with impunity most of the time, but more and more, they are being challenged. polygamy was legal in utah until they applied for statehood. even now it is being

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-04 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Killer Bs (David Brin et al) Discussion brin-l@mccmedia.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: Re: Polygamy On 4 Feb 2008, at 14:40, Julia Thompson wrote: On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, William T Goodall wrote

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-04 Thread Doug Pensinger
William wrote: But the numbers I believe are the ones from serious scientific surveys Maru. But the Wiki article isn't very conclusive is it? It's prefaced with this: Measuring the prevalence of various sexual orientationshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_orientationis difficult because

Polygamy

2008-02-03 Thread hkhenson
At 01:00 PM 2/3/2008, William T Goodall wrote: snip It's interesting that the USA with its supposed religious freedom suppressed LDS polygamy and also doesn't recognise Islamic polygamy although men having (up to) four wives is a part of the religion of 1.61 billion Muslims

Polygamy

2008-02-03 Thread jon louis mann
William T Goodall wrote: (snip) It's interesting that the USA with its supposed religious freedom suppressed LDS polygamy and also doesn't recognize Islamic polygamy, although men having (up to) four wives is a part of the religion of 1.61 billion Muslims. theocracy violates the separation

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 3 Feb 2008, at 22:10, jon louis mann wrote: William T Goodall wrote: (snip) It's interesting that the USA with its supposed religious freedom suppressed LDS polygamy and also doesn't recognize Islamic polygamy, although men having (up to) four wives is a part of the religion of 1.61

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-03 Thread Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro
Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority of the cultures in the world, it's an interesting question how the western countries, and a few others, became monogamous. It seems to be associated with settled agriculture but I don't know

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-03 Thread William T Goodall
On 4 Feb 2008, at 03:24, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority of the cultures in the world, it's an interesting question how the western countries, and a few others, became monogamous. It seems

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-03 Thread Julia Thompson
On Mon, 4 Feb 2008, William T Goodall wrote: On 4 Feb 2008, at 03:24, Alberto Vieira Ferreira Monteiro wrote: Keith Henson wrote: Considering that polygamy is the norm for the vast majority of the cultures in the world, it's an interesting question how the western countries, and a few

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
William wrote: If gay men don't marry women then there are more available women than straight men. Unless lesbians buy into the polygamy thing, this is probably a wash. Doug ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Polygamy

2008-02-03 Thread Doug Pensinger
Julia wrote: You're failing to take into account lesbians who have absolutely no interest in men. (Like several people in one of my social circles) That might balance things out somewhat there, putting you back to square one. It was an intriguing suggestion, though. Oops, didn't see

Re: Polygamy in the closet

2006-11-11 Thread Julia Thompson
jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there are polygamous stable partnerships already. They're rare, but they do exist in the West, and in other parts of the world they're more common. We do have quite a few of them in this country, and

Re: Polygamy in the closet

2006-11-10 Thread jdiebremse
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there are polygamous stable partnerships already. They're rare, but they do exist in the West, and in other parts of the world they're more common. We do have quite a few of them in this country, and unfortunately, all too

Re: Polygamy in the closet

2006-11-10 Thread Charlie Bell
On 11/11/2006, at 2:21 AM, jdiebremse wrote: --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], Charlie Bell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And there are polygamous stable partnerships already. They're rare, but they do exist in the West, and in other parts of the world they're more common. We do have quite a few of

Re: Polygamy

2004-02-22 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:57 PM 2/20/2004 - Jan Coffey wrote: It is amazing to me that in a country claiming to be free that these types of conversations even still happen. Who or who-all, one decides to fall in love with, raise a family with, bond for life with, should be absolutly no concern of the state.

Re: Polygamy

2004-02-22 Thread Medievalbk
I feel that there should be a program, perhaps governmental, perhaps SPCA, that helps parrots to regain the full use of their legs. William Taylor ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

the Hate Amendment compared to Gov't actions Against Polygamy

2004-02-20 Thread The Fool
http://www.nathannewman.org/log/archives/001538.shtml#001538 ... The Historical Assault on Mormons: But the attacks on polygamy should evoke a more historical American shudder that should make conservatives think twice before equating their intolerance of gay marriage with intolerance

Re: the Hate Amendment compared to Gov't actions Against Polygamy

2004-02-20 Thread Jan Coffey
/archives/001538.shtml#001538 ... The Historical Assault on Mormons: But the attacks on polygamy should evoke a more historical American shudder that should make conservatives think twice before equating their intolerance of gay marriage with intolerance for polygamy. ... A Slippery Slope

RE: the Hate Amendment compared to Gov't actions Against Polygamy

2004-02-20 Thread ChadCooper
-Original Message- From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:57 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: the Hate Amendment compared to Gov't actions Against Polygamy I'm not religious, (not morman) and I know of many triples who live

Re: the Hate Amendment compared to Gov't actions Against Polygamy

2004-02-20 Thread Jan Coffey
--- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Jan Coffey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 20, 2004 1:57 PM To: Killer Bs Discussion Subject: Re: the Hate Amendment compared to Gov't actions Against Polygamy I'm