RE: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-03 Thread Jan Coffey
--- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: I didn't post the article, Apologies. For what? I was only clarifying. and I am basing my coments on that article and co-workers of mine, and my wife who had to get a special waver to even be able to go over to Bangalore

RE: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-03 Thread ritu
Jan Coffey wrote: I didn't post the article, Apologies. For what? Incorrect attribution. :) That should be interesting. Still, those Bangalore workers could and should be asking for at least twice (at a minimum) what they are getting. It's not like there is an over abundence

RE: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-02 Thread ritu
Jan Coffey wrote: So with a borderless -free market-, why is it that you can go into a company in bangalore and they are nearly %100 Indean? Because not too many foreigners want to live and work in India for Indian wages? If Indeans can come here and work in our companies when the

RE: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-02 Thread Jan Coffey
--- ritu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jan Coffey wrote: So with a borderless -free market-, why is it that you can go into a company in bangalore and they are nearly %100 Indean? Because not too many foreigners want to live and work in India for Indian wages? If Indeans can

RE: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-02 Thread ritu
Jan Coffey wrote: I didn't post the article, Apologies. and I am basing my coments on that article and co-workers of mine, and my wife who had to get a special waver to even be able to go over to Bangalore to train their co-workers replacements. A special waiver, as in from the

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-01 Thread Ray Ludenia
d.brin wrote: There is another factor. Every nation contains some people who remember that the nation bears responsibility for feeding itself. There is a wish never to completely abandon the land. America is down to the lowest fraction of farmers since we left the caves. I imagine this is

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-10-01 Thread Julia Thompson
Jan Coffey wrote: --- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're a communist then? Absolutly not. However, I do believe that a countries first concern should be for it's own people. Dan read a book awhile back, when he was working on rewriting the bylaws for his company, that

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-30 Thread Ray Ludenia
Jan Coffey wrote: --- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now, having said that, has America committed crimes? Duh! In protecting our farmers, for example, our price supports have wounded 3rd world farmers exactly BECAUSE we refused to let then tie their economy to ours! Ah, we can

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-30 Thread d.brin
There is another factor. Every nation contains some people who remember that the nation bears responsibility for feeding itself. There is a wish never to completely abandon the land. America is down to the lowest fraction of farmers since we left the caves.

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-30 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Jan Coffey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In protecting our farmers, for example, our price supports have wounded 3rd world farmers exactly BECAUSE we refused to let then tie their economy to ours! snip What? would you have us allow our own people to

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-30 Thread Jan Coffey
--- William T Goodall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So you're a communist then? Absolutly not. However, I do believe that a countries first concern should be for it's own people. Companies who are able to rise due to our way, our capitalist democracy, should be expected to benifit our citizens

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-29 Thread d.brin
Kevin said: I have a different question. I've read a few opinions stating that the advanced countries are holding back third world countries by forcing them to adopt certain ideas, especially environmental policies. These countries cannot develop the way we did. I can see the wisdom in

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-29 Thread Jan Coffey
--- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin said: I have a different question. I've read a few opinions stating that the advanced countries are holding back third world countries by forcing them to adopt certain ideas, especially environmental policies. These countries cannot develop

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-29 Thread Alberto Monteiro
d.brin wrote: Now, having said that, has America committed crimes? Duh! In protecting our farmers, for example, our price supports have wounded 3rd world farmers exactly BECAUSE we refused to let then tie their economy to ours! No problema. if we can't plant and sell oranges, we can plant

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-29 Thread William T Goodall
On Monday, September 29, 2003, at 10:25 pm, Jan Coffey wrote: What? would you have us allow our own people to fall into a 3ed world state within our own borders? And besides, we are not talking about fair comparisons are we? Sure, if you work people for 16 hours a day, and you work kids 6 and

a new Brin: book review

2003-09-28 Thread d.brin
Hi folks. I am circulating a controversial review about a controversial book. Thoughts welcome. db === September 28, 2003 The Progress Paradox: How Life Gets Better While People Feel Worse by Gregg Easterbrook Random House December 2003 Reviewed by David Brin In 1894,

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-28 Thread Medievalbk
In a message dated 9/28/2003 1:56:41 PM US Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why do millions insist on seeing a glass half empty? Easterbrook speculates. An evolutionary proclivity for worry? Politicians and media that benefit from ongoing 'crises'? I've suggested

Re: a new Brin: book review

2003-09-28 Thread Kevin Tarr
At 01:33 PM 9/28/2003 -0700, you wrote: Hi folks. I am circulating a controversial review about a controversial book. Thoughts welcome. db === September 28, 2003 The Progress Paradox: How Life Gets Better While People Feel Worse by