RE: [Brin-l] RE: Changeover... topic identifiers?

2002-09-23 Thread Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Kevin Tarr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: zondag 22 september 2002 18:19 Aan: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Onderwerp: RE: [Brin-l] RE: Changeover... topic identifiers? File: ATT0.txt; charset = Windows-1252 I get your messages this way, as an

Re: Administrivia: Get rid of [Brin-L] in subject header??

2002-09-23 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Nick Arnett wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Erik Reuter ... How do you do that? From is the individual person's email address who sent the message. Actually, the From field on this list is the bounces address, which

RE: This is for real: American President

2002-09-23 Thread Kevin Tarr
Robert Seeberger wrote: We will be making available to every American who is qualified, by virtue of the Constitution, the opportunity to run for president. Which is kind of ironic, as I think Rupert himself fails to qualify. There were enough issues when an Australian wanted to own a US TV

Micro fuel cells to make gadgets go

2002-09-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.cnn.com/2002/TECH/ptech/09/22/micro.fuel.cells.ap/index.html Alternative power source would replace rechargeable batteries Cell phones free from nightly recharges. Laptop computers that run and run without needing an outlet. Pocket TVs with enough power to show a Ken Burns

RE: [Larryniven-l] Dr. Robert L. Forward is gone

2002-09-23 Thread Gary Nunn
Rob wrote. Jerry Pournelle is reporting that Dr. Robert L. Forward has passed away. His source is an email from the president of the SFWA. R.I.P. Robert L. Forward obit - apparently prepared by Dr. Forward himself: http://www.sfwa.org/news/forward.htm

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Rik Burke
JDG said: I disagree with this.There is no reason why a high school teenager flipping burgers at McDonald's *should* be paid enough to afford a two-bedroom apartment. And, I should note, the very definition of a minimum wage job is what you pay the lowest-rung worker, which would be a

Re: [Brin-l] rapturism

2002-09-23 Thread Ray Ludenia
Julia Thompson wrote: Ronn Blankenship wrote: The word denigrating has such a negative ring to it People in the US have been fired from their jobs for using it properly because others who obviously did not know what the word means took offense because they thought it was related to that

Re: [Brin-l] Re: Attack Iraq, Alone If We Must

2002-09-23 Thread Ray Ludenia
Robert Seeberger wrote: Please note that I offered not a single word of criticism. I didnt comment on what you said at all. What I did was clarify what I saw in Rays comments. In reading those comments again, I think I could say to Ray that he could have been a bit more diplomatic also.

RE: [Brin-l] rapturism

2002-09-23 Thread Baardwijk, J. van DTO/SLWPD/RZO/BOZO
-Oorspronkelijk bericht- Van: Ray Ludenia [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Verzonden: maandag 23 september 2002 15:37 Aan: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Onderwerp: Re: [Brin-l] rapturism I hadn't heard about *that* one. The only one I knew about was niggardly. We're not going to restart the

RE: how religious fanatics attack free speech

2002-09-23 Thread Nick Arnett
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The Fool ... Eh? How is this an attack on free speech? I don't agree with the tactics, but I don't exactly see Fox as a great defender of free speech, either. It's an organization that is

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 02:14:16PM +0100, Rik Burke wrote: As you say. But not everybody who is on minimum wage are flipping burgers to earn a bit of pocket money whilst they're at high school; infact many of them aren't. A living wage for for a family of one adult and two children is in the

Re: Attack Iraq, Alone If Must Be

2002-09-23 Thread K. Feete
John D. Giorgis wrote: Only *one* Brin-L poster bothered to object to this incredibly insulting and slanderous comment. This second poster did not attack the first poster, but simply asked if the first post ever felt guilty about casting such incredibly vicious insults when, by her own

Re: [Brin-l] Re: rapturism

2002-09-23 Thread Matt Grimaldi
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l Apparently Ronincats has heard the call of the Rapture... ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [Brin-l] Attack Iraq, Alone if We Must

2002-09-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 20:58 20-09-2002 -0400, John Giorgis wrote: Well, I haven't exactly been dictated to. I, after all, ignored the advice of my parents and decided to continue serving my country. So, have you signed up for military service yet? I mean, you want to serve your country, and are

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 22:19 22-09-2002 -0500, The Fool wrote: All of this logic I expect from a right wing. It's the job of the rich to make themselves richer at the expense of the poor. Right wing politicians have always consistently done this. Well, at least they deserve credit for being consistent. :-)

Re: [Brin-l] [TV] Anyone watch Firefly?

2002-09-23 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: It's Joss Whedon's new series - SF on the surface, but stuffed full of Western-ey Goodness. Including a train robbery :-) -- Matt ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

RE: This is for real: American President

2002-09-23 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 06:07 23-09-2002 -0400, Kevin Tarr wrote: We will be making available to every American who is qualified, by virtue of the Constitution, the opportunity to run for president. Which is kind of ironic, as I think Rupert himself fails to qualify. There were enough issues when an Australian

Re: US Releases National Security Policy Statement

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Matt Grimaldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 1:07 PM Subject: Re: US Releases National Security Policy Statement It is really a significant departure, not just from the containment doctrine but from widely

RE: Rapturism

2002-09-23 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Baardwijk, J. van wrote: Van: Ray Ludenia [wrote]: I hadn't heard about *that* one. The only one I knew about was niggardly. We're not going to restart the thread chix and niggards again, are we? :-) Hey, why not? That was 3.5 years ago (early 1999). There must be lots of

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Rik Burke
Erik asked: As you say. But not everybody who is on minimum wage are flipping burgers to earn a bit of pocket money whilst they're at high school; infact many of them aren't. A living wage for for a family of one adult and two children is in the region of $30k a year, which breaks down

Re: how religious fanatics attack free speech

2002-09-23 Thread Rik Burke
- Original Message - From: Nick Arnett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 3:29 PM Subject: RE: how religious fanatics attack free speech -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of The Fool ...

Re: US Releases National Security Policy Statement

2002-09-23 Thread Matt Grimaldi
Dan Minette wrote: It is really a significant departure, not just from the containment doctrine but from widely accepted American principles such as: America will not strike first, Buchanan said. And to elevate it to the status of a doctrine--without incorporating specific

Iraq: Take This Reso and Shove It

2002-09-23 Thread J.D. Giorgis
Iraq Vows Not to Abide by Any New U.N. Vote Limiting Agreement to Existing Terms Suggests Baghdad By Rajiv Chandrasekaran Washington Post Foreign Service Sunday, September 22, 2002; Page A28 BAGHDAD, Iraq, Sept. 21 -- Iraq said today that it would not abide by any new U.N. Security Council

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Russell Sherman
The stat I have on that doesn't give details, so I assume no, it doesn't mean 60% of households of one adult and two children. Does that make the above stat irrelevant? I don't think so. It was supposed to be indicative of a situation, nothing more. Ok, 60% of Americans don't earn enough to

Re: Iraq: Take This Reso and Shove It

2002-09-23 Thread Russell Sherman
Pardon me, but does this stance read like If you threaten us, we'll call your bluff to anyone else? From: J.D. Giorgis [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Iraq: Take This Reso and Shove It Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 13:23:13 -0700 (PDT)

copyrights

2002-09-23 Thread The Fool
An interesting article on copyrights: http://interviews.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=02/09/23/133228mode=nocomme nttid=141 ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Rik Burke
Russell asked: Ok, 60% of Americans don't earn enough to count as a living wage *if they're a single parent with two kids*. But there's a substantial proportion of people who (may) have no children but earn approx. half that sum or lesss. Do you have the numbers on this, or are you just

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Erik Reuter
On Mon, Sep 23, 2002 at 07:55:58PM +0100, Rik Burke wrote: Erik asked: As you say. But not everybody who is on minimum wage are flipping burgers to earn a bit of pocket money whilst they're at high school; infact many of them aren't. A living wage for for a family of one adult and

RE: [Brin-l] [TV] Anyone watch Firefly?

2002-09-23 Thread Miller, Jeffrey
-Original Message- From: Matt Grimaldi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Brin-l] [TV] Anyone watch Firefly? Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: It's Joss Whedon's new series - SF on the surface, but stuffed

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Rik Burke
Erik said: The stat I have on that doesn't give details, so I assume no, it doesn't mean 60% of households of one adult and two children. Does that make the above stat irrelevant? I don't think so. It was supposed to be indicative of a situation, nothing more. Whatever. Quote

RE: Week 3 NFL Picks

2002-09-23 Thread Kevin Tarr
I'll see what I can do,When on Friday is your deadline? Also, what is your pool like? JDG I just have to pick one team either with or against the spread. Just one. If I had picked the Lions, I'd have gotten two points, as it was I took the packers and lost two. Simple as that, one team

Re: Zebra update

2002-09-23 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Julia Thompson wrote: The male zebra reported near me spent a fair bit of time in the same pen with members of other species, so he was getting at least *some* socializing. And then we spotted extra zebras last week, and were able to do a reasonably good sexing of the extras.

RE: Zebra update

2002-09-23 Thread Kevin Tarr
The male zebra reported near me spent a fair bit of time in the same pen with members of other species, so he was getting at least *some* socializing. And then we spotted extra zebras last week, and were able to do a reasonably good sexing of the extras. Upshot: Mr. Zebra has 2 Ms. Zebras for

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Russell Sherman
From: Rik Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Housing Out of Reach Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:32:13 +0100 Erik said: Well, it's not quite random. It's relevant, in the way I argued. Do you disagree with the conclusions I drew from it?

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Sep 24, 2002 at 12:32:13AM +0100, Rik Burke wrote: My point, however, I think still stands. Which was that 60% of the US population earn les than twice the minimum wage, or thereabouts. That wasn't what you wrote. And the fact that they aren't a one-parent family doesn't mean that

Re: Housing Out of Reach

2002-09-23 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: Russell Sherman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 6:37 PM Subject: Re: Housing Out of Reach From: Rik Burke [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Housing Out of Reach

Re: Zebra update

2002-09-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Julia Thompson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 6:31 PM Subject: Re: Zebra update Deborah Harrell wrote: --- Julia Thompson wrote: The male zebra reported near me spent a fair bit of time in the same pen

Baby names

2002-09-23 Thread Gary Nunn
WELLINGTON (Reuters) - New Zealand's main advocate for children has branded as psychological abuse the naming of a child after a notorious criminal gang. Commissioner for Children Roger McClay said he received a complaint about a baby boy named Triple M Rogue, which is short for Mighty Mongrel

Re: Zebra update

2002-09-23 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Julia wrote: The *other* thing I'm wondering is if I'm ever going to get the question, Mommy, what are those two zebras doing? as we drive by and one is on top of another wondering how I'll answer it if it comes up Just be honest, but not too blunt. Reminds me of a story - right before

Re: Baby names

2002-09-23 Thread Adam C. Lipscomb
Gary wrote: WELLINGTON (Reuters) - New Zealand's main advocate for children has branded as psychological abuse the naming of a child after a notorious criminal gang. Commissioner for Children Roger McClay said he received a complaint about a baby boy named Triple M Rogue, which is short

Foolish Posters

2002-09-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
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Re: Baby names

2002-09-23 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: Gary wrote: WELLINGTON (Reuters) - New Zealand's main advocate for children has branded as psychological abuse the naming of a child after a notorious criminal gang. Commissioner for Children Roger McClay said he received a complaint about a baby boy

Computer program that is bug free

2002-09-23 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://news.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml;$sessionid$S0SQ03RFJ3ZA1QFIQMGSF FWAVCBQWIV0?xml=/news/2002/09/19/nmoz19.xmlsSheet=/news/2002/09/19/ixworld. html Travellers can beat the misery of mosquitoes with a computer program that paralyses the insect's wings by emitting a high-frequency