Re: god vs science

2002-10-01 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Julia Thompson wrote: It's a lot nicer to spend a day or two comforting a child who's having a reaction from a vaccine or three than to actually deal with the child getting the disease and being *sick* for a lot longer than that, and possibly carry effects of that illness for the rest of his

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread The Fool
From: Robert Seeberger [EMAIL PROTECTED] she was as prone to belief in conspiracy theories as you *seem* to be. (Not trying to be insulting here G) A real conspiracy theorist believe in this kind of bullshit: http://www.toledolink.com/~flash/flashx.html and this kind of bullshit:

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-10-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Jim Sharkey wrote: Some jobs are necessary. Other jobs aren't. Those jobs that are *not* necessary, and that induce a negative social stigma should be limited, if not eliminated at all. Hrm. In Japan in particular, but also in the US, there are entire game shows dedicated

Re: god vs science

2002-10-01 Thread Alberto Monteiro
Sonja wrote: Does population wide vacination make virusses that have been around for ages more virulent? No, probably 6 thousand million natural labs make virusses more virulent. Alberto Monteiro ___

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread John D. Giorgis
At 09:48 PM 9/28/2002 -0500 Robert Seeberger wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2002/EDUCATION/09/26/creationism.evolution/index.html The policy presented here doesn't seem that bad at all. Especially if it is interpreted as counting intelligent design as an alternative to evolution.I personally

Re: U.N. Upholds Ban on 'Dwarf Throwing'

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 09:15:01AM -0300, Alberto Monteiro wrote: Do those shows enhance a social stygma against a minority group, and does the targeted minority group feel offended by them? The answers are No and (meaningless). So, they can't be banned. So you think people who act like

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:20:44AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: Can we please keep the language appropriate for a family list? No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/

RE: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Horn, John
From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] IIRC, All Hallow's Eve is the night before All Saints Day a Catholic (?) holiday. On All Hallow's Eve, the dead can walk the earth or something like that. So it isn't really pagan. Or I could be wrong... No, you are right .

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Dan Minette
- Original Message - From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 5:08 AM Subject: Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution All of it complete and total crap. Some people will believe the weirdest shit. Notice the thread of

RE: The Two Towers trailer

2002-10-01 Thread Horn, John
From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_101b_fi_vide.html You can view (and download!) the full screen trailer at: http://www.lordoftherings.net/two_towers/trailer/tt_trailer2.html Very cool. I'm getting pumped again! - jmh

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread The Fool
From: Dan Minette [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: The Fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] All of it complete and total crap. Some people will believe the weirdest shit. Notice the thread of religion in each of these sites? So? The results of a highly biased sample are meaningless. Who is more

Re: Theism, atheism, and in-between

2002-10-01 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Dan Minette wrote: silly. (To believe in God, but not actually have any particular beliefs about God, is nothing more than an emotionally reluctant non-theism or agnosticism.) One belief that most theists I know of have about the divine is that it transcends human

Re: Theism, atheism, and in-between

2002-10-01 Thread Marvin Long, Jr.
On Sun, 29 Sep 2002, Reggie Bautista wrote: Here's an analogy I've heard: Imagine a statue the size of the entire United States. Imagine that this statue is incredibly detailed. You can spend your whole life studying the details of one small area, maybe occasionally stepping back to get a

RE: Blast from the past....HR Pufnstuf

2002-10-01 Thread Jim Sharkey
Gary Nunn wrote: This is truly a blast from my past... Freddy The Magic Flute. Now all we need is Witchy-Poo to make this complete Gary, have you ever seen a CD called Saturday Morning: Cartoons' Greatest Hits? It's an album from a few years back that has a bunch of the theme somgs

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Jim Sharkey
Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:20:44AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: Can we please keep the language appropriate for a family list? No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your

Re: Theism, atheism, and in-between

2002-10-01 Thread Reggie Bautista
I wrote: Here's an analogy I've heard: Imagine a statue the size of the entire United States. Imagine that this statue is incredibly detailed. You can spend your whole life studying the details of one small area, maybe occasionally stepping back to get a bigger picture view. But the

Re: Evil Empire: the World leader in executions

2002-10-01 Thread J. van Baardwijk
At 08:04 01-10-2002 +0200, Sonja van Baardwijk wrote: Actually it is not just one age that turns you from totally sheltered into out on your own from one day to the other, it is more a multistep thing. F.i. at 12 you no longer are considered to be a child but become a youth, already legally you

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread John D. Giorgis
Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:20:44AM -0400, John D. Giorgis wrote: Can we please keep the language appropriate for a family list? No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your

Re: [Brin-l] Brin: Agh... star wars

2002-10-01 Thread d.brin
I agree, the LOTR movie was wonderfully well done and very faithful to the book. Even though I groaned at the obviously heavy-handed imagery when Saruman tears down the trees. His betrayal is faithful to Tolkien's view : GOOD= pastoral nature, protected by faithful gameskeepers who bow and

Re: Theism, atheism, and in-between

2002-10-01 Thread Deborah Harrell
--- Reggie Bautista wrote: snippage One of the biggest problem I have with current organized Christianity and many of it's supporters is that they say God is omniscient, omnipotent, and just sort of generally infinite or trans-finite, but then they start putting in limits. Which only

Re: The Two Towers trailer

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Horn, John [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: RE: The Two Towers trailer From: Robert Seeberger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] http://www.lordoftherings.net/index_101b_fi_vide.html You can view (and

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2002-10-01 Thread Dan Minette
Dear David, I see your messages. And, FWIW, I think your analysis of the difference between the LOTR and Star Wars is valid. I made some comments about Tolkien's anti-modernity at the Tolkien newsgroup to mixed reception. I give JRR a great deal of leeway because he deliberately wrote an

Re: Kiss your mother with that mouth? (was Re: Georgia school boardOKs alternatives to evolution)

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 06:14:37PM -0500, Adam C. Lipscomb wrote: How *do* the ladies *ever* resist your charm, Erik? You must beat them off with a stick! Who needs a fucking stick? -- Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.erikreuter.net/

Re: Blast from the past....HR Pufnstuf

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Jim Sharkey [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 12:18 PM Subject: RE: Blast from the pastHR Pufnstuf Gary Nunn wrote: This is truly a blast from my past... Freddy The Magic Flute. Now all we need is Witchy-Poo to

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Jim Sharkey
Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 01:32:02PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: No. I think people should tolerate whatever the fuck people want to write. Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your point of view every time! :) Who the hell is Peope and

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Seeberger
- Original Message - From: Erik Reuter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 01, 2002 7:31 PM Subject: Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 01:32:02PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: No. I think

Escaped prisoner flags down police bus

2002-10-01 Thread Robert Seeberger
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_679898.html An escaped prisoner flagged down a bus to make his getaway only to find it was full of policemen looking for him. Sergio Vilas Boas escaped from a police station in Belo Horizonte, Brazil, and stopped the first bus he saw. But it was owned by

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 08:46:04PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 01:32:02PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Ah, the mature response. Guaranteed to get peope to see your point of view every time! :) Who the hell is Peope and why would I want him to see

Re: Horses, was Re: Intellectual output from the Arab World

2002-10-01 Thread Steve Sloan II
Reggie Bautista wrote: When I was a kid, we had a Tennessee Walker (along with a couple of other horses). One of my brothers who was 5'8 at the time (a little under 2 meters, Alberto :-) Actually, it's a *lot* under 2 meters. ;-) Two meters is almost 6 feet, 7 inches, which is pretty

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Jim Sharkey
Erik Reuter wrote: Yeah, I'm a real asshole, huh? If it makes you happy to be one, be my guest! Far be it from me to stop you. Jim Changed your e-mail? Keep your contacts! Use this free e-mail change of address service from Return Path.

Re: Georgia school board OKs alternatives to evolution

2002-10-01 Thread Erik Reuter
On Tue, Oct 01, 2002 at 10:15:53PM -0400, Jim Sharkey wrote: Erik Reuter wrote: Yeah, I'm a real asshole, huh? If it makes you happy to be one, be my guest! Far be it from me to stop you. Right. Besides, it is more fun to watch and make sarcastic comments, anyway! And if you told me to

Re: Brin: Agh... star wars

2002-10-01 Thread Nick Arnett
This came through to my Yahoo account, which is set up exactly like David's... so David, you should see replies to this message as well. Sorry for all the difficulty, everyone. --- d.brin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Someone please email me separately if this gets through. So far I have

the rich get richer, the poor get poorer

2002-10-01 Thread The Fool
Slightly dated: http://www.sharedcapitalism.org/scfacts.html ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

quantum computers

2002-10-01 Thread The Fool
http://www.eetimes.com/story/OEG20020806S0030 Bye bye crypto. ___ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l

Re: [Brin-l] Brin: Agh... star wars

2002-10-01 Thread Doug
d.brin wrote: I agree, the LOTR movie was wonderfully well done and very faithful to the book. Even though I groaned at the obviously heavy-handed imagery when Saruman tears down the trees. His betrayal is faithful to Tolkien's view : GOOD= pastoral nature, protected by faithful

Re: Evil Empire: the World leader in executions

2002-10-01 Thread Doug
Reggie Bautista wrote: Which is exactly the point I was originally trying to make regarding execution of children. If you have a country where executions are legal, as they are in the U.S., then you should be able to decide on a case-by-case basis, as the U.S. does, if someone who is

Immunizations

2002-10-01 Thread Kanandarqu
Sonja wrote- Well that's just it. Some of the vaccinations can seriously debillitate a child or even kill it. I'd like to know about those risks, _all_ the risks. In the Netherlands the former minister of health Els Borst said that it wasn't necesary for parents to have the full

RE: venus de milo

2002-10-01 Thread Horn, John
From: Alberto Monteiro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] That sounds very interesting. Any chance of restating that in words a non-rocket scientist could understand? :-) But I will try anyway I think I actually followed that. Thanks! I guess something from high school and college physics

Re: Evil Empire: the World leader in executions

2002-10-01 Thread Sonja van Baardwijk-Holten
Reggie Bautista wrote: Which is exactly the point I was originally trying to make regarding execution of children. If you have a country where executions are legal, as they are in the U.S., then you should be able to decide on a case-by-case basis, as the U.S. does, if someone who is