Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-07 Thread Eric Blake
On 06/04/2010 10:00 AM, Ralf Wildenhues wrote: Hello, * Eric Blake wrote on Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 04:26:49AM CEST: I'm not the automake maintainer. But I am. And I will rewrite its manual to just use the simplest gender-neutral alternative, namely, speaking to and about you, the user, or

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-05 Thread Christina Gratorp
Hi, But I am. And I will rewrite its manual to just use the simplest gender-neutral alternative, namely, speaking to and about you, the user, or you, the developer. Lovely! I know plenty of people who will be very happy for that and I really do believe it makes a difference for reaching a

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-04 Thread Christina Gratorp
Hi again Thanks for answers. We could have an elaborate discussion about linguistics, or we could change the text on the site so anyone feels at home. For the comfort of hermaphrodites I think the developer's is a good suggestion. Redundancy is not as bad as people feeling sad for not belonging,

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-04 Thread Stefano Lattarini
At Friday 04 June 2010, Russ Allbery r...@stanford.edu wrote: Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com writes: Thanks for the report. However, English is one of those silly languages where the pronoun his can have a neuter sense rather than masculine, and this is one of those cases. Politically

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-04 Thread Alfred M. Szmidt
If one wishes to use a gender neutral word, one could always go for person/per/pers/perself as used by Marge Piercy. That won't insult the sensibilities hermaphrodite... I've always found the claim that using his vs. hers in text influences anyone in free software projects, specially women,

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-04 Thread Ralf Wildenhues
Hello, * Eric Blake wrote on Fri, Jun 04, 2010 at 04:26:49AM CEST: I'm not the automake maintainer. But I am. And I will rewrite its manual to just use the simplest gender-neutral alternative, namely, speaking to and about you, the user, or you, the developer. By the way, if one person states

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Friday, June 04, 2010 03:24:34 Gary V. Vaughan wrote: On 4 Jun 2010, at 13:47, Christina Gratorp wrote: For the comfort of hermaphrodites I think the developer's is a good suggestion. Redundancy is not as bad as people feeling sad for not belonging, right? Gary, you seem to be a girl

Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-03 Thread Christina Gratorp
Hi! I found a bug in the intro pages for automake: http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Introduction. The sentence The developer expresses the recipe to build *his* package in a Makefile must be wrong since I'm a woman and a user and have packages I want to build and those packages

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-03 Thread Eric Blake
On 06/03/2010 08:01 AM, Christina Gratorp wrote: Hi! Hello, You mailed the autoconf list, but complained about the automake manual. You may want to resend this to a more appropriate list if you want anything to change, since this sentence does not appear in the autoconf manual. I found a

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-03 Thread Russ Allbery
Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com writes: Thanks for the report. However, English is one of those silly languages where the pronoun his can have a neuter sense rather than masculine, and this is one of those cases. Politically correct pundits are trying to eradicate that usage, but personally,

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-03 Thread Eric Blake
On 06/03/2010 06:28 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com writes: Thanks for the report. However, English is one of those silly languages where the pronoun his can have a neuter sense rather than masculine, and this is one of those cases. Politically correct pundits are

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-03 Thread Gary V. Vaughan
Hi Chris, On 3 Jun 2010, at 21:01, Christina Gratorp wrote: I found a bug in the intro pages for automake: http://sources.redhat.com/automake/automake.html#Introduction. The sentence The developer expresses the recipe to build *his* package in a Makefile must be wrong since I'm a woman and a

Re: Comment on introduction pages

2010-06-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Thursday, June 03, 2010 22:26:49 Eric Blake wrote: On 06/03/2010 06:28 PM, Russ Allbery wrote: Eric Blake ebl...@redhat.com writes: Thanks for the report. However, English is one of those silly languages where the pronoun his can have a neuter sense rather than masculine, and this is