Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

>> Anther issue are three vowels in succession, for example >> >> Bäuerin -> Bäue-rin -> Bäu-e-rin >> Erneuerung -> Er-neue-rung -> Er-neu-e-rung >> misstrauische -> miss-traui-sche ->miss-trau-i-sche > > I would consider this defective in the original hyphenation. In > regular text these

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Am 28.12.2016 um 19:33 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >>> Dialog -> Di-a-log >>> Bibliothek -> Bi-bli-o-thek >>> Geometrie -> Ge-o-me-trie >> Well, here I'd say if it significantly reduces the number of >> syllables that have to be split manually then it's better to have >> than not. At least

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

>> Dialog -> Di-a-log >> Bibliothek -> Bi-bli-o-thek >> Geometrie -> Ge-o-me-trie > > Well, here I'd say if it significantly reduces the number of > syllables that have to be split manually then it's better to have > than not. At least you didn't find false positives. Anther issue are

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Am 28. Dezember 2016 19:04:51 MEZ, schrieb Werner LEMBERG : > >> But I still think it should be possible to define some rules to apply >> as a second pass to lyrics that have been hyphenated by Frescobaldi, >> and I think this should be possible without false positives (although >>

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

> But I still think it should be possible to define some rules to apply > as a second pass to lyrics that have been hyphenated by Frescobaldi, > and I think this should be possible without false positives (although > being strict on this may leave out a few border cases that are *not* >

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Am 26. Dezember 2016 10:15:19 MEZ, schrieb Werner LEMBERG : > >> Remember that I suggest applying the "lyrics" rule as a second >> pass. So: >> >> "re-al" and "Teak-holz" are the results of the first pass, then: >> >> Teakholz isn't interesting at all as it doesn't have vowels at

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

> Remember that I suggest applying the "lyrics" rule as a second > pass. So: > > "re-al" and "Teak-holz" are the results of the first pass, then: > > Teakholz isn't interesting at all as it doesn't have vowels at > syllable borders. The "e" and the "a" in "real" wouldn't match > either because

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Am 26.12.2016 um 08:53 schrieb Werner LEMBERG: >>> Heutzutage gehen immer weniger Zuschauer in The- >>> ater, egal ob Opernaufführungen oder Sprechthea- >>> ter. >>> >>> For lyrics, you definitely need `The-a-ter'... >> >> But couldn't *that* be achieved with a rather trivial rule? > > I don't

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

> Der Soldat ging in die Wach- > stube und holte seine Wachs- > tube aus dem Schrank. > > The sentence above demonstrates that probably _no_ current > implementation of a hyphenation algorithm can be correct without a > deep understanding of the contents of a text. For the German hyphenation

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Am 26.12.2016 um 00:27 schrieb Knut Petersen: > >>> Heutzutage gehen immer weniger Zuschauer in The- >>> ater, egal ob Opernaufführungen oder Sprechthea- >>> ter. > > Der Soldat ging in die Wach- > stube und holte seine Wachs- > tube aus dem Schrank. LOL. > > The sentence above

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Heutzutage gehen immer weniger Zuschauer in The- ater, egal ob Opernaufführungen oder Sprechthea- ter. Der Soldat ging in die Wach- stube und holte seine Wachs- tube aus dem Schrank. The sentence above demonstrates that probably _no_ current implementation of a hyphenation algorithm

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Am 25. Dezember 2016 23:02:45 MEZ, schrieb Werner LEMBERG : > >>> Is there a set of official rules how hyphenation is done for >>> lyrics? I just found some forums where the advice is rather >>> ambiguous. >> >> Well, for the german language you would use the official hyphenation

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

>> Is there a set of official rules how hyphenation is done for >> lyrics? I just found some forums where the advice is rather >> ambiguous. > > Well, for the german language you would use the official hyphenation > rules that apply to hyphenation at the end of a line as a > base. Obviously one

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

>> Frescobaldi offers a ("destructive") hyphenation option using >> system installed dictionaries. This can save lots if time while >> giving total control to post-process the results. > > +1 Indeed. Having hyphenation support *outside* Lilypond, this is, as an input aid, is the right

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Hi Joram! That is the kind of automisation that I use and like. But it also shows the difficulties that Werner mentioned: Text hyphenation patterns are not always what is needed for lyrics. Is there a set of official rules how hyphenation is done for lyrics? I just found some forums where the

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Am 23.12.2016 um 09:26 schrieb Urs Liska: > Frescobaldi offers a ("destructive") hyphenation option using system > installed dictionaries. This can save lots if time while giving total control > to post-process the results. +1 That is the kind of automisation that I use and like. But it also

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Am 23. Dezember 2016 08:45:15 MEZ, schrieb Werner LEMBERG : > >> What we need is automatic hyphenation for lyrics ... but the >> standard algorithm (read the thesis ofFranklin Mark Liang) is not >> optimal because it is not designed to find _all_ possible >> hyphenations and

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

> What we need is automatic hyphenation for lyrics ... but the > standard algorithm (read the thesis ofFranklin Mark Liang) is not > optimal because it is not designed to find _all_ possible > hyphenations and because hyphenation for lyrics might differ from > the standard: German rules do not

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Hi Simon! It’s a known issue that this is not possible to do in LilyPond, which is why (almost?) everybody to typeset such large projects with LilyPond has used LilyPond only for the music itself and embedded the output in *TeX or other word-processing/publishing software. Well,

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

On 22.12.2016 19:32, Mirosław Doroszewski wrote: lilypond does not do word hyphenation in \marklist. It implies that the software cannot public long and small song books with meny pieces. That is true. Your message would be received more favourably if you said something like ‘It would be

Re: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2.

Hello Miro, On 22/12/16 18:32, Mirosław Doroszewski wrote: Word hyphenation in LilyPond version 2.18.2. 1. Word hyphenation happens usually in justified texts. 2. Music notation software can print song books with some or many pieces. 3. Conversion poetry texts from standard publication into