Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sliv: Do you know where I can find information on the Cookbook development? Things like project info, source, openings, tickets or similar info. I can't say for sure how helpful I could be. My skill- level varies greatly with the topic but I would like to have a look to see if I find anything I

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-14 Thread Sliv
Have a look at the CakePHP Tickets: How To Help page in the pages section for this group. There are links to view ticket reports on the trac site. I would include direct links in this post, but I really want to encourage folks to check out that page. One of the available reports is for

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-14 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Thanks, I must have not looked hard enough in trac. I had not noticed there were milestones for the Cookbook. Hope I can be of help. On May 14, 1:26 pm, Sliv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have a look at the CakePHP Tickets: How To Help page in the pages section for this group.  There are links to

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-13 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
There is only really one main thing I would like to see changed about the cookbook. That is the way proposals are forever hidden from me after I initially post them. Being abel to not only add, but edit and update a section not yet approved would make it easier for us outsiders to contribute. At

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-13 Thread Sliv
There is only really one main thing I would like to see changed about the cookbook. That is the way proposals are forever hidden from me /Martin Like Nate said, this is all doable, it's just about finding available time + available ability in the same person to do it. If you think that's

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-13 Thread dr. Hannibal Lecter
Also, I'd say that even though the Cookbook has its limitations, documentation has made an amazing progress (and I really do mean amazing in the most extreme sense of the word) and is still a work in progress. So..it's hardly necessary to change anything at this point, isn't it? My 2p. On May

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-13 Thread Aaron Shafovaloff
Sorry, I wasn't aware that this was up for public discussion because usually we leave these sorts of decisions to people who are actually, you know, doing the work. That's why I gave a proposal, not a demand. And I'd be happy to set up a MediaWiki installation for you and do all the

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-13 Thread nate
Aaron, the brashness wasn't in the proposal itself, but in the tone in which it was presented. Also in the fact that you already presented the idea once, and it was rejected unanimously. Add to that the fact that discussions of a wiki, in all it's forms and facets, has already played out

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-13 Thread John David Anderson
On May 12, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Aaron Shafovaloff wrote: I propose that the Cake team use MediaWiki with the FlaggedRevs extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs) instead of their homegrown wiki, which currently has a closed review process. This extension, which will be

RE: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-13 Thread Mariano Iglesias
Instead of spending so much time in trying to tell everyone what's supposedly wrong with the Cookbook, why not use that time to help with the *ACTUAL* documentation? God forbid we all chip in on what is actually good for the community. -MI

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-13 Thread Aaron Shafovaloff
I can assure you that the tone wasn't sneering or cocky, it was a sincere, constructive proposal. If you don't like my idea, then shoot it down. No hard feelings. To me, FlaggedRevs seems to make using a wiki all the more attractive. I have suggested abandoning the progressive chapter-breakdown

Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-12 Thread Aaron Shafovaloff
I propose that the Cake team use MediaWiki with the FlaggedRevs extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs) instead of their homegrown wiki, which currently has a closed review process. This extension, which will be integrated into Wikipedia in the coming months, allows for

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-12 Thread Esoteric
I am personally a fan of MediaWiki, I am also a fan of the CakePHP team and the hard work they do, either way I think both methods have attractors and detractors. I personally think that your ideas are valid, I too will be interested in seeing what others have to say.  - People could engage in

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-12 Thread Mathew Nik Foscarini
:48:19 PM Subject: Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal I am personally a fan of MediaWiki, I am also a fan of the CakePHP team and the hard work they do, either way I think both methods have attractors and detractors. I personally think that your ideas are valid, I too will be interested in seeing what

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-12 Thread Samuel DeVore
Thoughts? Here is one It makes CakePHP team eat their own dogfood ;) Sam D -- -- (the old fart) the advice is free, the lack of crankiness will cost you - its a fine line between a real question and an idiot http://blog.samdevore.com/archives/2007/03/05/when-open-source-bugs-me/

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-12 Thread Marcin Domanski aka kabturek
, and read it offline. I find the Cake website feeds out pages from the manual very slowly. - Original Message From: Esoteric [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CakePHP cake-php@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 1:48:19 PM Subject: Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal I am personally a fan

Re: Cookbook overhaul proposal

2008-05-12 Thread nate
On May 12, 1:15 pm, Aaron Shafovaloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I propose that the Cake team use MediaWiki with the FlaggedRevs extension (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:FlaggedRevs) instead of their homegrown wiki, which currently has a closed review process. Sorry, I wasn't aware