If there are docs all over the place then either its needless duplication or
merely serves to cloud already existing (or in progress doc)
keeping central and support formats of docs that all (of all levels) can
contribubte to is better for all concerned
I am sure that the docs will expand into
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I gather the overall feeling is just that feedback be provided on all
submissions, whether negative or positive, so submitters know the
deal. I myself have made some contributions, some reject, some
approved, some into the void of no response. Personally, I don't care
whether something is
Well, looks like your fledgling wiki has already become a haven for
jackasses with axes to grind.
Good luck trying to maintain it.
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at book.cakephp.org open source?
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It's my understanding that part of the idea behind the cookbook
submission process was to migrate the flood of documentation tickets
away from trac.
Unless you're talking about a separate trac repo/site.
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Nate, as one of the dev leader, you should temper your language, I
find it harsh
I don't see exactly where is the problem with that wiki. In fact, I've
made a wiki myself to help me think throught some process that weren't
correctly described here and there when the book was still just a
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 2:23 PM, David Coll [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't see exactly where is the problem with that wiki. In fact, I've
made a wiki myself to help me think throught some process that weren't
correctly described here and there when the book was still just a
thought. I
The answer seems to be because some people believe that a wiki is the
solution to all of mankind's problems. I'd rather see people
contributing to the main docs personally, since it was launched the
Book has really helped me get answers faster (there's still some
things I need to refer to the API
On May 6, 4:59 am, Aaron Shafovaloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. I'll just start from scratch.
You know that you (and I mean you not other people) can edit/add
content to the book?
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Hey
The content is owned by the Cake Software Foundation (...)
Can you elaborate why is that ?
Why not use GPL ? GFDL ? Creative Commons ?
For me it's wierd that a community contributed documentation cannot be
used by the community without an approval.
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I think some people are anxious to see the enhancement tickets for the
cookbook get some kind of response, particularly the ones that give
feedback as to the status of contributed content, versioning, etc.
These are wiki type enhancements that would help resolve the issue
where people submit
On a side note, have you folks (those wanting to fork a doc wiki)
already tried offering to Gwoo/John to help code/write the cookbook
app and have since decided to venture out on your own, or are you just
unsatisfied with the cookbook without offering to assist and wanting
to spearhead your own
Asunto: Re: Is the documentation at book.cakephp.org open source?
Why? Writing a documentation resource on CakePHP from scratch is
quite an undertaking. What could possibly be your motivation for
doing such a thing?
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I think some people are anxious to see the enhancement tickets for the
cookbook get some kind of response, particularly the ones that give
feedback as to the status of contributed content, versioning, etc.
- Where is the SVN for
I don't actually know, but contact [EMAIL PROTECTED], I am sure he (and
everyone) would welcome offers to help.
- Where is the SVN for cookbook code? Would like see if I can help out with
some patches
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everyone) would welcome offers to help.
- Did that
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On May 6, 2008, at 2:39 AM, Marcin Domanski wrote:
Hey
The content is owned by the Cake Software Foundation (...)
Can you elaborate why is that ?
Why not use GPL ? GFDL ? Creative Commons ?
For me it's wierd that a community contributed documentation cannot be
used by the community
Just a guess, but probably for forking wiki's.
...and I find it funny how similar saying forking wiki's sounds to
something good ol' Chris would say :D
What did you want to use it for?
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I second the urgent need for more wiki like features in the Cook Book
- I've made a few alterations and comments on the content, but having
no idea if any of them were ever accepted, or indeed if the book has
even been updated in the last week/month/year, it's hard to be
motivated to do more.
A
On May 6, 2008, at 7:47 AM, Sliv wrote:
Just a guess, but probably for forking wiki's.
That's exactly why we don't allow that. :)
I hope you can see why that'd be a problem.
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On May 6, 2008, at 7:50 AM, the_woodsman wrote:
I second the urgent need for more wiki like features in the Cook Book
- I've made a few alterations and comments on the content, but having
no idea if any of them were ever accepted, or indeed if the book has
even been updated in the last
On May 6, 2:50 pm, Sliv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think some people are anxious to see the enhancement tickets for the
cookbook get some kind of response, particularly the ones that give
feedback as to the status of contributed content, versioning, etc.
These are wiki type enhancements
Oh, there's no fault here, this is all on a volunteer basis. I
would simply hope that if people have the time/ability to fork wiki's,
they would have the time/ability to join the cookbook development team
in some way and that their would be a doorway/path open for them to do
so.
That's all my
Hey
The content is owned by the Cake Software Foundation (...)
Can you elaborate why is that ?
Why not use GPL ? GFDL ? Creative Commons ?
For me it's wierd that a community contributed documentation cannot be
used by the community without an approval.
Mostly because we don't
This forking wiki has nothing to do with the attemp to fork CakePHP,
or has it? Seems like we are under attack!
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On May 6, 2008, at 8:36 AM, Marcin Domanski wrote:
Hey
The content is owned by the Cake Software Foundation
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Why don't you want that ? wikipedia is freely available and i don't
see the problem where articles are available on other sites as long as
people know its from wikipedia.
There's also *one* wikipedia. How many side wikipedia efforts are
flourishing?
There are sites (ex. music
On Tue, May 6, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Marcin Domanski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why isn't that a problem for php docs ? djangobook.com ?
Aren't the PHP docs mirrored instead of duplicated and updated independantly?
I might be grumpy, but on this issue I feel meh. If people want to go
and create
Aren't the PHP docs mirrored instead of duplicated and updated independently?
Yeah it was me hijacking the thread. My concern was the openness of
the docs not creating a wiki or anything.
And php.net and djangobook was an example of docs on free license.
As a general rule i like the things i
The answer seems to be because some people believe that a wiki is the
solution to all of mankind's problems.
You are correct. :-) I think wikis best harness the power of
collective intelligence and collaboration for projects like
documentation.
Also, it it makes sense that CakePHP
On May 6, 7:38 pm, Aaron Shafovaloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The answer seems to be because some people believe that a wiki is the
solution to all of mankind's problems.
You are correct. :-) I think wikis best harness the power of
collective intelligence and collaboration for projects
Well, the book does harness collective intelligence and collaboration,
but I personally think wikis do that best. In summary, I like the
flexibility of interlinking (I think that's what it's called), of
evolving large pages into smaller chunks, of categorizing pages, of
discussion areas attached
My meager, scanty effort has begun here:
http://www.cakedocs.org/
On May 6, 12:20 pm, Aaron Shafovaloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, the book does harness collective intelligence and collaboration,
but I personally think wikis do that best. In summary, I like the
flexibility of
On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Aaron Shafovaloff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My meager, scanty effort has begun here:
http://www.cakedocs.org/
Sigh! what a waste
I may have differences of opinion on some of the ideas of core devs on some
semantics of *freedom* as applied to Open Source. I
The URL is now:
http://www.unauthorizedcakeguide.com/
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On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 8:14 AM, Aaron Shafovaloff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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My meager, scanty effort has begun here:
http://www.cakedocs.org/
Sigh! what a waste
I may
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The URL is now:
http://www.unauthorizedcakeguide.com/
Visit from the CakePHP police? ;)
Cheers
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On Mon, May 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Aaron Shafovaloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the documentation at book.cakephp.org open source?
Why do you ask?
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, May 5, 2008 at 10:00 PM, Aaron Shafovaloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is the documentation at book.cakephp.org open source?
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The book is open. Anyone is free to contribute.
The content is owned by the Cake Software Foundation and contributed
by loyal members of the CakePHP community who value collaboration and
central location for information and resources related to the CakePHP
project. Therefore, you cannot
Thanks for the clarification. I'll just start from scratch.
On May 5, 8:56 pm, Gwoo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The book is open. Anyone is free to contribute.
The content is owned by the Cake Software Foundation and contributed
by loyal members of the CakePHP community who value collaboration
Why? Writing a documentation resource on CakePHP from scratch is
quite an undertaking. What could possibly be your motivation for
doing such a thing?
On May 5, 10:59 pm, Aaron Shafovaloff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the clarification. I'll just start from scratch.
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