Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-22 Thread Oxygen
Oops, not used to Google groups yet... Ment to say: If I were at home I'd be playing around to my heart's content with whatever I fancied doing I wouldn't be nearly so bothered, in this case I need to get something done for a customer in a couple of weeks. On Jan 22, 10:18 am, Oxygen [EMAIL

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-22 Thread Oxygen
Wow, I wasn't expecting this many replies! Thanks guys! To give you a little more background, I've just changed from Java Swing development to PHP. The first thing I had to do in PHP was set up Eclipse and get proper debugging working (I'm planning to look at Komodo and the rest soon). Stepping

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-22 Thread RichardAtHome
The best advice I could give you under the circumstances you mentioned (time constraints), is to not use Cake (initially). Get the project out using whatever methods you usually employ. Once its out and you have some breathing space, you could use it as a learning project and re-write it using

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-22 Thread alkemann
Adding my 2 cents: 1. start with the blog toturial; USING THE SAME CAKE VERSION that is used in it 2. read the manual (manual.cakephp.org), its more of a quickguide in any case 2.b Make sure you understand the concept, if not the implementation of model associations. Model associations is DA

How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread Oxygen
I've been playing around with CakePHP for a little over 24 hours in total now and I've just given up on the IBM Cook up Web sites fast tutorial; it was hopelessly buggy and inconsistent. I don't want to rant, and obviously some parts are out of date, but for this tutorial to be one of the

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread clemos
Hi Ben I think the very first step is to follow the 15 min Cake Blog Tutorial http://manual.cakephp.org/appendix/blog_tutorial It allows you to setup a cake install, and build a very simple blog engine with it, thus demonstrating Cake's basic concepts. Once you're done with it, check out the

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread Baz
http://tempdocs.cakephp.org/ On Jan 21, 2008 8:54 AM, clemos [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ben I think the very first step is to follow the 15 min Cake Blog Tutorial http://manual.cakephp.org/appendix/blog_tutorial It allows you to setup a cake install, and build a very simple blog engine

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think the most efficient way is to pick a project that interests you, keep the manual handy and start developing. If it interests you, you'll stick with it. Dave On Jan 21, 8:39 am, Baz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://tempdocs.cakephp.org/ On Jan 21, 2008 8:54 AM, clemos [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread RichardAtHome
David above identified the method that worked for me. Liberal echo pr($variable) in the models/controller/views was invaluable to me to work out what was getting passed by who and to where. Using Bake to build your scaffolding. You can learn an awful lot by looking at the baked code. Blogs

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread powtac
Good question! The answers will show you that the manual and the tutorial for version 1.2 are not finished yet. My (current) way to learn cake is to set up and expand a very small projekt. Each question witch came up I post here (after searching if it wasnt already answerd). I think this is for

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread dr. Hannibal Lecter
Trial and error! It's a bit difficult at the beginning, and everything is confusing, but once you get it, as RichardAtHome said, skyrocket! :-) As an example, I'm messing with Cake for a short while now, and I've decided to create a private mini cms for myself and learn Cake while doing that. My

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread 703designs
I recommend that, first off, you have these prerequisites: * Solid PHP skills, including a basic understanding of using OOP (object-oriented programming) in PHP * MySQL skills * A basic understanding of what an MVC framework is With that foundation, I recommend that you begin with, in the

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread Baz
Read through the manual for a general understanding. For actual coding examples (the few that are there) go to the tempdocs. Baking helped me a lot! If you're not sure what baking is, it's the process by which you have cake create the files for the project based on only the database definition.

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread MonkeyGirl
I can't be alone in wondering what the most efficient way to get into CakePHP is. Good guides seem to be the main thing missing from CakePHP - there are plenty of tips about how to do one or two specific things at a time, but not much in the way of a beginner's guide that gives you a good

Re: How do people usually learn CakePHP and what is best?

2008-01-21 Thread powtac
Thougt to set up a wiki. What do you think? --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Cake PHP group. To post to this group, send email to cake-php@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to