[casper] wideband conversion and correlation

2010-12-23 Thread Jonathan Weintroub
Hi CASPERites, Here's a somewhat fluffy RFI which I hope might start a little thought and/or discussion over the season (acknowledging that not all in the global collaboration celebrate the traditional Western winter holidays): At SMA we are looking into the use of CASPER methods to build

Re: [casper] wideband conversion and correlation

2010-12-23 Thread melvyn wright
Hi Jonathan, Other specs ? For SMA 8 or 10 antennas x 2 pols analog input possible For CARMA 15 antennas x 2 pols, or 23 ants x 1 pol, or 23 ants x 2 pols Output sample and accumulation time for cross correlation: typical 10sec, fast for longer baselines 1 sec. Mel. On Thu, Dec 23, 2010 at

Re: [casper] wideband conversion and correlation

2010-12-23 Thread Dan Werthimer
hi jonathan, some ideas for your correlator: 1) 300 MHz is a good target, especially for V6. suraj has shown how to achieve 375 MHz for V5 by using floor planning and auto-placing. suraj or i can send you his draft paper on this if you'd like. 2) you might want to consider FFX instead of

Re: [casper] wideband conversion and correlation

2010-12-23 Thread Jonathan Weintroub
Thanks, Suraj, it is good to of your experiences. I may ask more in time about the details of your implementation. Also, the practical limit, our analysis so far is purely number of multiplies and adds, and does yet look at routing. However, is your practical limit for Virtex 5, and

Re: [casper] wideband conversion and correlation

2010-12-23 Thread melvyn wright
Another reason to consider FFX is more flexible selection of how many channels you want in each subband. ii) Equalization across a 16 GHz may be an issue. If there is too much slope across the band, suppose in an extreme case, a change at low gains end might make no change in the digitized

Re: [casper] wideband conversion and correlation

2010-12-23 Thread Dan Werthimer
On 2. it seems to me that if we are digitizing a 9 GHz and using 20 Gsps, one still needs substantial demux (at least 64) no matter how small the PFB. As Sura points out this is far in excess of practical limits. This stacks with what we have found: BW is the difficult part, large PFB for

Re: [casper] wideband conversion and correlation

2010-12-23 Thread Jason Manley
To the best of my knowledge, nobody's built a CASPER correlator that processes such high bandwidths. I took a closer look at bringing 20Gsps into a ROACH2 for MeerKAT use a few months back. My conclusion was that this would be possible with current libraries with minimal changes. However, we