Hi,
here's some ideas and observations from other places rating python projects.
Depending on the community(and particular packages), I'm not sure if
it will attract trolls or not. As an example, the comments on the
pygame website I can't remember negative comments on there. I'm sure
there
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:55 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
Regarding the usefulness of such a feature, take the PIL package
as example:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/PIL/1.1.6
Package rating (3 votes): 4.667
* 4 points: 1 vote
* 5 points: 2 votes
Ratings range
René Dudfield wrote:
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 9:55 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
Regarding the usefulness of such a feature, take the PIL package
as example:
http://pypi.python.org/pypi/PIL/1.1.6
Package rating (3 votes): 4.667
* 4 points: 1 vote
* 5 points: 2
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 5:01 AM, René Dudfield ren...@gmail.com wrote:
People with commercial packages on there would be right to not like
comments in some respects. Since commercial organisations often like
to control their PR as much as possible. So in this way, the comments
are not such a
At 07:13 AM 11/4/2009 +0100, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
And I'm in favor of deleting spam (i.e. comments that are clearly
unrelated to the package - as graffiti is clearly unrelated to
the place where it gets attached).
Not so - if I spraypaint your service sucks on a restaurant's
window, it is
Comments face a related issue which exposes the psychology a bit more
clearly: there's a barrier to commenting (you have to register)
In the current implementation on PyPI, you also have to register to
participate in the rating.
In my experience, this
results in the opposite of the YouTube
If PyPI is meant to go social rather than being purely a search
engine, then the ones who put their content up on PyPI should at
the very least be allowed to reply to comments
That's already the case - package authors can respond to comments.
and to be fair,
ratings should be visible to all
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 3:55 AM, M.-A. Lemburg m...@egenix.com wrote:
If PyPI is meant to go social rather than being purely a search
engine, then the ones who put their content up on PyPI should at
the very least be allowed to reply to comments and to be fair,
ratings should be visible to all
Laura Creighton wrote:
In a message of Wed, 04 Nov 2009 20:13:45 +0100, M.-A. Lemburg writes:
snip
That said, I don't think it's a good idea to try to reinvent a
wheel that has already been invented many times over. Just look at
the successful systems running on e.g. Amazon and eBay. We
Am 27.10.2009 um 21:32 schrieb Martin v. Löwis:
Some package maintainers are unhappy with the recent addition
of a rating-and-comment facility in PyPI; they don't want to
see user comments on their package page (the rating itself
is not being challenged, AFAIU).
For the record, I *did*
Jannis Leidel wrote:
Am 27.10.2009 um 21:32 schrieb Martin v. Löwis:
Some package maintainers are unhappy with the recent addition
of a rating-and-comment facility in PyPI; they don't want to
see user comments on their package page (the rating itself
is not being challenged, AFAIU).
For
At 10:49 PM 11/3/2009 +0100, Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Telling them to use the tracker is, IMO, depriving them of
their right to explain their evaluation of the package; a bug tracker is
not an adequate means for that.
No, but their personal blog(s) are a wonderfully available and
appropriate
On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 12:08 PM, Martin v. Löwis mar...@v.loewis.de wrote:
Jannis Leidel wrote:
Am 27.10.2009 um 21:32 schrieb Martin v. Löwis:
Some package maintainers are unhappy with the recent addition
of a rating-and-comment facility in PyPI; they don't want to
see user comments on
-1 That would defeat the purpose of being able to channel feedback to an
alternative location, e.g. the dedicated issue trackers for my packages.
Please understand that the purpose of the commenting system is *not*
to report bugs, but to let users voice their genuine opinion about the
package.
Why not create a separate site with ratings and comments, along the
lines of Jacob's cheeserater.com (now defunct) or Plone's software center?
So it would all be fine, if I only rendered the comments on
ratepypi.org, instead of pypi.python.org?
Would it still be ok if a link from
I think there are issues with both ratings and comments, and that at
the very least the decision to enable/disable them should be left to
the package's administrator.
First up, ratings and comments in general:
Ratings face the well-documented issue of clustering -- the YouTube
data is one
Martin v. Löwis wrote:
Some package maintainers are unhappy with the recent addition
of a rating-and-comment facility in PyPI; they don't want to
see user comments on their package page (the rating itself
is not being challenged, AFAIU).
As it is difficult to get the community opinion on this
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