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in the HTTP header, making sure you specify the document encoding
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* Ash Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-25 21:50]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Ash Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-09-25 19:20]:
Since its XUL and this is Firefox only, thats okay. But as a
general point, ISTR application/xml is hideously broken with
IE
Do you remember anything about how
for their benefit).
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* Pedro Melo [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-09 00:05]:
On Aug 8, 2007, at 1:38 PM, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
If you do in fact modify state on the server based on
information in the URI, I hope that you at least require POST
for these requests?
We always redirect after POST.
That wasn’t what I
change the default using the
`encoding` pragma. See `perldoc encoding`.
If the program code itself is in UTF-8, you may want to declare
that also: see `perldoc utf8`.
And finally – see `perldoc perlunicode`.
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* Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-11 18:40]:
On 10 Aug 2007, at 14:24, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
I think that says quite clearly that if the method definition
is silent about an entity-body, then no entity-body is
allowed.
The sections on PUT, POST and TRACE discuss entity
Hi Jonathan,
* Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-10 12:41]:
On Wed, 8 Aug 2007 23:42:22 +0200, A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Jonathan Tweed [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-08 21:35]:
Can an HTTP DELETE have an entity body? I have looked in the
HTTP spec and as far as I can see
by Leonard
Richardson.)
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method (section 5.1.1)
does not allow sending an entity-body in requests. […]
If it's legal for a DELETE to have a body they could put the
reason in there. If not, is it a reasonable use of a custom
header?
Yes.
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* Matthew Pitts [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-08-06 15:25]:
It's far from pure REST
None of the things on CPAN that have REST in their name have
much to do with REST. Few people have any idea what REST really
means. (It's actually very simple, just very abstract.)
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effort seems to have stalled and died. It would have provided
FastCGI deployments with all the knobs and twiddles for load
balancing that mod_proxy offers.
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* Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-29 00:05]:
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User visits page A.
User visits page B in another tab.
User submits form A.
User submits form B.
A updates the flash.
B updates the flash.
Page A2 loads
Class::Observable (and recently finally started
fixing it), and found that similarly weird in many ways
(though it has a much simpler purpose and therefore much less
overwhelming Java smell).
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* Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-26 19:30]:
Looking at an existing version I hacked I see I did something a
bit more crude:
Crude is better in Perl. Handle-like things come in so many
shapes that testing for them is futile at best, stupid at worst.
my $body = $c-response-body;
Hi Christopher,
look, it’s pretty simple: I like to help because it’s fun. If it
becomes work, I lose interest. Make me jump through hoops to read
your stuff and I just won’t. I assume I’m not the only one.
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anything that could be rendered as an
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* Kee Hinckley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-18 19:35]:
Of course the most of the mistakes were intentional attempts to
avoid getting spammed (somewhere.com was *real* popular for
fake addresses).
http://asdf.com/asdfemail.html
http://weblog.sinteur.com/?p=15846
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* Joe Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-14 01:16]:
Nowadays I simply put all the variable creation in a separate
section near the beginning.
Yuck!, please don’t. At the very least make sure not to declare
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it will leaves any false $bar value in $vote, including things
other than undef.
The ternary is really the best option.
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“error out”, I’d say. But I’d rather call it FatalErrorThrow
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* Oleg Pronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-01 16:00]:
Because [%Game.detailsHref%] or [%Game.historyHref%] is much
easier and faster to call then [%INCLUDE game_hrefs game=Game
type='details'%]
Is that so much shorter than [%Game.detailsHref(c)%]?
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, but ABW considers templating languages
to be totally different from programming languages, so you get
to be transported back to the ’60s.
Have I mentioned that I hate TT2 with a passion?
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* Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-07-01 23:05]:
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Of course, we’ve known since the ’70s or so how to make
better programming languages, but ABW considers templating
languages to be totally different from programming languages
that this is a Bad Idea.)
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took a hit in the contest for the lack of
SOAP tooling, I can’t make myself care about it. There are more
SOAP stacks than there are SOAP services on the open web. I’ll
eat a broom, as they say in Germany, if that ever changes.
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is still a bit
foreign to me.
a. Yeah. That concept of context is quite unique to Perl.
Hmm, so I guessed wrong; mea culpa. I wonder how one could divine
that this is the problem a newcomer with questions is having…
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this is not a problem with DBIx::Class (much less with Catalyst).
Your understanding of Perl data structures is evidently
superficial; you will do yourself a favour to read at least one
of the perlreftut, perllol and perldsc docs.
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in Catalyst::Engine::HTTP::run is set to only permit
connections from 127.0.0.1, if I’m reading the source right, and
unfortunately myapp_server.pl provides no way to set a different
value for that option from the command line.
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privately – REGARDLESS of whether Reply-To is munged.
All mailers suck, mutt just sucks less. :-)
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Makefile.PL
declares.
If you have several non-CPAN modules to install you can also
write a .p5i file (which is just a plaintext list of tarballs)
and invoke pip on that file, and it will install them all, in
the order you gave.
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with more instructive boilerplate.
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contrariwise be a great strength:
cf. Principle of Least Power [1]. You cannot parse Perl without
executing it; in contrast, JSON is easily read and repurposed.
[1]: http://www.w3.org/DesignIssues/Principles.html#PLP
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. It doesn’t seem to me like you
have to make any choices, unless you feel a need to question the
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probably that is the main reason
why I try to avoid them personally.
Yes, redirects can be used as crutches to paper over a bad
design. Then again, request tokens can be used as crutches to
paper over a bad design.
* Bernhard Graf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-22 00:00]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
Not only
assertions
might seem self-evident to him. But you have practically shut
down the thread now, and I’d’ve liked to see what he was going to
answer to my latest post.
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* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-21 18:30]:
On Mon, 21 May 2007, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
So if the blank form is `/order/form`, you’d stash the form
data away somewhere under ID `7z32a` (f.ex) and redirect them
to `/order/form/7z32a` (or `/order/form?populate=7z32a`). The
data could
button.
I'd strongly, strongly recommend against it, sending a 302
really isn't that bad.
Or 303. ;-)
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that resource as the
same you can retrieve from /article/why-webarch-matters where the
message box is missing; etc.)
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* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-20 22:10]:
On Sun, 20 May 2007, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
Why not stash the message in the query string for the redirect
target? Or a hash key.
A couple problems. The biggest is that besides messages, I also
pass along the submitted form data, so the form
* Mike Whitaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-20 21:45]:
On 20 May 2007, at 17:14, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
But a priority right now, it ain’t. If you can deliver a
solution that works, tomorrow, go ahead. Doesn’t matter
whatever wild hacks are necessary – getting the site relaunch
ball rolling
* Bernhard Graf [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-20 21:05]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
That, plus the re-submit when the user hits the Back button.
...
unless ($c-validate_token) { # Catalyst::Plugin::RequestToken
$c-stash(message = 'Deja vu!'); # optional verbosity
$c-detach('view
of these guys with their images, there was a contractual
obligation, so I’d definitely go for a stronger defense. But as
a quick fix, this was a pretty decent first move, and I’d say
it’s rather hard to argue that hashing the filenames was a *bad*
idea for them.
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* Daniel Hulme [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-19 14:10]:
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 12:24:07PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
F.ex., it would be dumb to run sshd on a port other than 22,
hoping that no one finds it.
Not really. I run sshd on my home box on a non-default port,
because I was fed up
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Hi Matt,
* Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-19 21:15]:
On Sat, May 19, 2007 at 07:55:15PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-19 19:45]:
comp_root = do { my $root = $c-config-{root}; ${root}; },
would be better, I think.
Why `do`? Wouldn’t
, not the session?
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.
(In this case, of course, obscurity makes no sense; I am just
talking about the general case.)
Please quit this “it’s not security at all” cargo cult.
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indeed when you get these wrong… :-)
(For those who don’t know: using POST where GET would be
appropriate just costs you cacheability and thus scalability;
using GET where POST would be appropriate can cost your users
their data.)
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* Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-18 16:30]:
On Fri, May 18, 2007 at 03:29:20PM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-18 14:30]:
I prefer to have my code wired up fairly explicitly for GET
vs. POST but that's more an obsession with the HTTP and URI
class
and generate the output from there.
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is mail.yahoo.com.
Just expire some keys earlier than others.
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* A. Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-10 16:14]:
* Anthony Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-10 16:00]:
Why not use Attribute::Protected to define private etc. methods
Because it does not actually prevent private methods in
subclasses from overriding ones in their superclasses, moves
* Anthony Gardner [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-10 16:00]:
Why not use Attribute::Protected to define private etc. methods
Because it does not actually prevent private methods in
subclasses from overriding ones in their superclasses, moves
error detection to compile time, adds overhead to every
www.cpantools.org not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
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* Daniel Hulme [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-10 20:45]:
If you'd googled rather than hosting you'd have found that
Anthony meant to say cpantools.com.
Condescending much?
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}
Here the caller talks only to VegGuide::Response and doesn’t even
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been doing it since. I think
it’s an excellent way to avoid one of the deficiencies in Perl’s
OO.
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* Evan Carroll [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-05-06 10:55]:
With that said, the patch provided has no drawbacks, and even
if you only use the most minimal functionality of M::DBI, with
the current code, you don't have a connection until the first
-dbh is called, which is no bueno. (work that is
* Simon Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-27 15:10]:
So, what do people do - do you send 303/307's correctly or
just default to 302 behaviour?
I send 303, unless the HTTP request uses HTTP 1.0, in which case
the client sees a 302 instead.
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* Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-27 20:55]:
sub post_redirect {
my ( $c, $location ) = @_;
my ($version) = $c-request-protocol =~ m/(\d+\.\d+)/;
# Make location absolute
$location = $c-uri_for( $location )
unless $location =~ /http/;
$c-res-redirect(
* Danny Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-26 11:25]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Danny Warren [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-26 04:45]:
Quick question: at around 15 minutes in (while discussing TT)
you mentioned the ability to set html scrubbing at a global
level, and that there is something on CPAN
. A quality module is one which does that and
yet provides for less ordinary scenarios without resorting to
“copy-paste and tweak to taste.”
Anyway, not to get stuck on soapboxes here. If that module works
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to remote interactions.
That is a nightmare to maintain. Make your immediate dependencies
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* Dave Rolsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-27 02:40]:
For example, when I want to find all the modules I'm using, I
usually do something like this:
grep -r '^use '
As a sidenote, do check out App::Ack, which installs the `ack`
tool. Much nicer than grep(1) for source code.
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, as I am
about to go through and add '| html' to damn near every
variable in my templates.
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Template-Stash-HTML-Entities/
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present a reason that convinces me and which I feel
would be a good thing to keep in mind for my own apps in the
future, then I might be inclined to dig in and find out, because
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, but it
seems those plans fizzled out. Have they?
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cache thrashing, esp. in multi-
processor systems.
I don’t know if it does upload buffer or how it stacks up against
the competition.
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* Jeff Chimene [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-04-13 19:20]:
Where is the class method documented?
http://search.cpan.org/perldoc/Template::Plugin::Class
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in the CGI and a Catalyst
base controller being released on CPAN?
Sometimes, there is no code to do something because no code is
needed to do it. :-)
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if the image you are
generating is a thumbnail, f.ex.
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what I can tell.
However, C::Session::State::Cookie consists of 100 lines of
pretty simple code; just read the source. A patch to support
multiple different cookie names would be quite easy to implement.
(Or a subclass, failing that.)
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processing for anonymous
sessions, but it makes the protocol ever so slightly simpler and
more robust.
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care.
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Javascript or meta refresh or whatever in order to
alert the user to the logout, but logging them out MUST happen
server-side.
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timeouts.
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performance
Arguably Java is faster.
- has stood the test of time
Check.
Basically, this is a good list if you want to argue “Perl vs.
another contemporary dynamic language,” but it makes little
distinction when you’re trying to contrast Perl against Java.
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Hi Ian,
* Ian Docherty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-02-14 16:40]:
A. Pagaltzis wrote:
* Will Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-02-12 21:25]:
my $column = $c-model(myDB::Author)-get_column('last_name');
while(my $name = $column-next){
$lname[$i] = $name;
$i = $i + 1;
}
Ugh. Use `push
* Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-02-12 11:45]:
On 10 Feb 2007, at 08:30, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
Actually, 302 means “repeat the same request at this other
URI” whereas 303 means “please retrieve this other URI using
GET.” The difference is that strictly according to RFC, 302
means
typing).
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was introduced in HTTP 1.1; if the client
sent you a HTTP 1.0 request, you have no other choice than 302.
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to the
advent calendar is probably a good gauge for that.
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that are concise and simple, but falls back to Perl
for anything beyond that. (And I’m gonna do something about that
desire at some point.)
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