On 8/29/07, Felix Antonius Wilhelm Ostmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
after a few tests we gone use this classes under catalyst ... and ...
dont work :-/ under catalyst our classes dont use Attribute::Handlers
:-/ we declare UNIVERSAL::Property and then use sub nondigit : Property
{ defined
On 7/24/07, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any chance you could comment on the bit of the thread where signal-like
solutions for win32 were discussed instead of repeating the bit of the
conversation we already went past a day ago?
Of course (I assume you're talking about Ash Berlin's
On 7/22/07, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I suspect SIGUSR1 would work just fine; the 'authors' (mostly Sebastian)
don't actually understand signal handling, I had to do quite a lot of cleanup
work to make the child-related stuff sane.
Please, keep in mind that the current code, as it
On 5/31/07, Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The second step is loading that perl code and compiling it to a sub in
memory. That happens once per process and no external cache can help
with it, since it's compiled perl code in memory.
Well, if you're feeling risky and think that it
On 5/26/07, Peter Michaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for the suggestions. I just want to keep a little utility
module like this plain Perl without any dependencies. Just because I
think Perl if funny looking doesn't affect whether or not I'll be
using it. With my first Perl adventure I did
On 5/26/07, Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perl 6 will take care of making that: obj.property
Oops, missed the dollar sign, it's: $obj.property
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On 5/22/07, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
* Queries accept rich values as arguments (e.g., DateTime and
Bit::Vector objects)
-- expected in 09
This works (at least for DateTime objects). For instance:
$rs-search( { my_date_field = { -between = [$dt1, $dt2] } } );
works as expected
On 4/24/07, Bernhard Graf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I don't want to be rude, but could you guys open your own thread when
you want to discuss pros and cons of forwards and redirects?
This is the classic XY problem[1]. They're trying to show you that Y
is bad for solving X.
No one wants to
On 4/2/07, Michael Higgins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Using IE7, log-in with redirect (just like the tutorial) doesn't work.
Are you running the builtin server with -k?
e.g: perl myapp_server.pl -k
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On 3/29/07, Oleg Pronin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I cannot forward to the list actions because they are not private actions
(they have its own URLs). In docs 'forward' is for private actions.
If the docs state that, they're wrong. It's perfectly possible to
forward to public actions.
For
On 3/8/07, Jim Spath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
URI is next up at around 14% of time. Is there anything that can be
done about this one?
Wherever is reasonably possible, instead of actually using calls to
$c-uri_for() for every item, call it only once and then build the
rest of the URI
On 2/21/07, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The idea is to let the user know why their action failed, not to pop up
messages saying something might fail in the future! Plus it's easier
to implement, and works with every browser.
I've been a victim of web applications designed like
On 2/9/07, Jim Spath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks interesting, but it doesn't provide for arrays?
It should - at least that's what CGI::Expand's documentation claims
(CGI::Expand is the underlying module which actually converts params
to data structures).
Unfortunately, it seems to be
On 2/9/07, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
$rs = $c-model('DBIC')-search-whatever;
I'd advise you against calling whatever() and limiting yourself to the
first search() call if you're planning on using DBIC's built-in pager
for this resultset. As of 0.07005, multiple search()es over
On 2/8/07, Fayland Lam [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
but the memory usage of each process seems to be 95 m. it's pretty high!
we have more 60+ pms.
We've got around 100+ pms and myapp_server.pl uses around 87mb of RAM.
Don't really know about usage under mod_perl, I'd need to check it out.
-Nilson
On 2/2/07, Jim Spath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Another way I can get around the issue is to kill the server, and
restart it by hand.
This problem also happens with me. It's even reproducible: every time
I edit MyApp.pm, restarter can't do its thing so I end up killing it
and running it again.
On 1/26/07, Jason Gottshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
1) Is my convenience method a sensible approach, or is there a better
way to do this?
I usually stuff this inside MyApp.pm:
sub uri_for_action {
my ($c, $controller, $action, @params) = @_;
$c-uri_for(
On 1/26/07, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, everybody with dumbass editors and version control systems that
like polluting lib, get chore patterns for these files in this
thread. If nobody else collects 'em up and sends 'em to muttley, I
will, because I'm sick of hearing about this :)
On 1/19/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
These types of application decisions always make me ponder about javascript
going back into lockdown mode in large corporations. You seem to be boxing
yourself into a corner if js filtering ever becomes back in trend. Also
how are you
On 1/15/07, Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That's why I was curious and I have sent to the list that blog with the
comparison between RoR and Catalyst.
You need to keep in mind that sometimes it's easier to optimize things
for benchmarks than for real world applications. That
On 12/29/06, John Napiorkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So I guess my question is would people like a GWT like
system for Catalyst and if so what would you like to
see in it?
I've been thinking a lot about these sort of things lately but I
couldn't come up with a clean way to do it the way I
I've previously posted about my performance issues regarding TT. At
the time, one of Matt's suggestions for improving performance was to
reduce the usage of uri_for() whenever possible.
I had some list pages where I'd need to display dozens of items and
link to each one of them and all my links
On 12/26/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
A recent version of ActiveState Perl, the mingw package/environment, a
well configured CPAN and CPANPLUS and finally PPM (with such extra
repositories such as the one provided by Randy Kobes) makes installing
modules (and Catalyst) an
On 12/27/06, Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does Cache::FastMmap support Windows now?
I have tried installing it with ppm, but I couldn't find it, and using cpan,
but it gave errors.
I've tested a preliminary version and (incorrectly) assumed it was
already available at the CPAN.
On 12/25/06, Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
After forcing a new DBI install, the Catalyst helper works well, without any
error and it creates all the files that it should create.
That's probably because you've previously updated DBI using PPM
instead of the CPAN shell.
PPM can be a
On 12/25/06, Emanuele Zeppieri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nilson, there are several PPM repositories, and the availability of the
various CPAN packages depends on the repositories you are querying, of
course.
Yes, I'm aware of that and usually I've got every repository under the
sun configured
On 12/24/06, Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Attempt to free unreferenced scalar: SV 0x237e190, Perl interpreter:
0x274324 at
D:/usr/site/lib/DBIx/Class/Schema/Loader/Base.pm line 501.
These errors are not usually errors per se - just warnings. And
everything ends up working
On 12/25/06, Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you tell me what version of perl do you have? I use ActivePerl 5.8.8
build 819.
Same here.
Have you tried updating DBI itself (not DBIx::Class), using the CPAN
shell, as I've said before? That usually does away with those
unreferenced
On 12/6/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Reaction calls these ViewPort objects :)
Sweet.
Any docs yet?
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On 12/6/06, Eden Cardim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why not override MyApp::View::MyView-process() and put your Perl code
layer in there? What I do is have -process() build up pieces of HTML,
like tables, forms, etc, with whatever external module I see fit,
based on the stash data. Then I stuff
On 12/6/06, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The code example that comes with the reaction source is pretty
understandable. If that's not enough, questions are welcome on the
#reaction channel on irc.perl.org :)
Hmm... I will take a look at it again.
I don't remember seeing any code
On 12/5/06, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior wrote:
This way, everything will probably just work, even when the user has a
on their names or any other weird characters.
No, you can inject plenty of bad code without . You need to escape
On 12/5/06, Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It can be really easy to add custom view code to TT templates. You can
immediately load any class and just call it:
[% USE MyView %]
[% MyView.method(arg) %]
Yes, but you'd need to manually use the correct class in every
template and then
On 12/4/06, Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And I said that there is no de facto standard, because there isn't one
generally accepted.
There's a defacto standard for writing Catalyst applications.
The Catalyst users have an opinion, the CGI::App might have another one, the
Mason
On 12/3/06, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sorry, I don't. This is a common complaint on IRC and PM, so I'd like to
resolve it. I know search.cpan isn't the ideal source of current
documentation, but lots of people use it for that, and I'd like to help them
if possible. If that's
On 12/2/06, Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have seen that your example modifies the root controller, so this convince
me that this is not a tutorial for beginners.
The beginners should start learning to use Catalyst, without SVN, with its
default ways of doing things, without other
On 12/2/06, Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Of course, there are more ways to do it in every language, but for perl, the
correct expression should be: There are too many ways to do it. :-)
There is no the most important templating system in perl, or the best
module for creating
On 12/1/06, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Perl. Is. Not. Dead.
No one *here* is stating that Perl is really dead. Otherwise we'd all
be undead zombies from hell or something like that. Anyone who's
inside the Perl community knows it's alive and kicking and that most
of Perl's
On 11/17/06, Daniel McBrearty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So my original example : say we have an application that streams
audio, and only one source may be streamed at a time. Having more than
one player instance in existence could violate this on many OS's. Even
if the OS would cause an error
On 11/16/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Besides which, I've never yet seen a production application (and between
Shadowcat's client portfolio I've seen not a small number thereof) where the
dispatch overhead was even statistically significant to the overall
performance - the
On 11/16/06, Brandon Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If template rendering speed might be a bottleneck for you, you may
want to investigate ClearSilver. I haven't tried it yet myself, but
I've heard good things about its performance, and there's already a
Cat View for it. Its a bit different
On 11/10/06, Josef Karthauser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Ooh, am I missing a trick here? What are chained action? I've been
chaining actions together using $c-forward(). Is this the same kind of
thing, or something altogether different?
Chained actions is a feature that has already been
On 11/1/06, David Jack Olrik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
http://www.onemogin.com/blog/528-chained-searches-the-beauty-of-
dbixclass-and-catalyst.html
Nice article. However, by chained actions I meant Catalyst's builtin
Chained actions. But I guess it still added some weight to the
previous
Lately I've been using chained actions a lot, since it ends up making
everything look cleaner and more organized.
I tend to structure things in a way that I've got some Catalyst
actions that load some items from the database which are the root of
the chain and then I've got another set of
On 10/29/06, Ash Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you could all run it through its paces on both Win and *nix and let
me know if there are any problems that would be great.
Unfortunately, it doesn't compile under Win32 with AS Perl 5.8.8
(build 817) using MSVC.
Compile log follows:
On 10/29/06, Ash Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My bad - it didn't take the updated MANIFEST file (somewhere I messed up
clearly) so it didn't include all the right files. Please try again,
same url as before.
That previous problem was fixed. Unfortunately, a linking error popped up.
Here's
On 10/29/06, Ash Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hmmm okay. Could you try editing Win32.c and including varargs.h and
changing line 467 to one of the following:
No need to include varargs.h.
Chaning line 467 from:
vsnprintf(errbuf, 1023, error_string, ap);
to
_vsnprintf(errbuf, 1023,
On 10/13/06, Cédric Bouvier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Question: what would you recommend to deploy a Catalyst app on Windows,
ideally without too much headaches, and knowing that it is not meant to
handle much traffic? We have tried mod_perl2, but getting it to work
seems quite cumbersome...
On 10/7/06, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Obviously you don't get all of TT's features. No EVAL, no MACRO, no
BLOCK. I don't use any of that anyway. I write my code in perl, not in
TT :)
Unfortunately, I use MACROs and BLOCKs extensively.
Anyway, if you Need Something Now, try
Hi everyone,
Recently I've been facing some performance issues in my Catalyst
application and the situation worries me a little bit.
The first optimization I tried was to start prefetching everything I
could and it indeed improved the performance quite a bit (by a factor
of 2 or so). But it
On 10/7/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The Class::C3::* methods you're seeing are startup overhead only; unless
you're messing with class hierarchies at run-time that's a one-off hit.
Right. But next::method calls also seem to weight in a little bit.
But I really have no idea on how
On 10/7/06, Perrin Harkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maybe this will help: http://www.modperlbook.org/html/ch09_05.html
Thanks, I'll try using Apache::DProf as suggested.
How did you determine this?
Manually running and timing the queries as output when DBIC_TRACE=1.
Switching from running a
I'm currently starting a new simple Catalyst application and decided
to give InstantCRUD a shot. However, it couldn't even be installed
under Windows since Cache::FastMmap isn't installable under Win32.
I don't really know if the authors are aware of this issue, that's why
I'm posting this here.
On 8/30/06, Kieren Diment [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It does virtually nothing, apart from saving you some typing. You
must resolve any related columns to a properly stringified name for
example.
Maybe it should've been a Catalyst::Helper ?
Then it could be used through Catalyst's default
On 8/29/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
sub base :Chained('/') PathPart('') CaptureArgs(0) {
sub drpt : Chained('base') PathPart('dailystatusrpt') CaptureArgs(0) {
sub view_drpt :Chained('drpt') PathPart('view') Args(0) {}
sub drpt_year : Chained('base')
On 8/14/06, Kevin Monceaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyway, I'm at the end of the BasicCRUD section of the tutorial where one
creates the Books::Delete method. The last line in the method is:
$c-forward('list');
Catalyst appears to be ignoring this statement. When I tried to delete a
On 8/10/06, Jonas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm trying to store an hashed password in a database using DBIC. What
is the best way to create the digest of the password?
When checking the password (e.g. during login)
Catalyst::Plugin::Authentication should handle this task for you. When
storing
On 8/9/06, Joe Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Last I tried, Cygwin had some issues (Matt had been wrestling with
it). Is Catinabox working in Cygwin, or will everything just work in
Cygwin? Native vs cygwin doesn't matter.
I don't know about Cygwin - Catalyst runs alright natively under
On 8/9/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Point out that everybody on http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/wiki/LiveApplications
disagrees :)
I haven't stumbled upon this page before and I'm sort of amazed. I
never thought there were so many public facing sites using Catalyst. I
really think
On 8/9/06, Nagarajan M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am using **Cache::FileCache** since
**Session::Store::FastMmap** is not supported in Win32.
Use C::P::Session::Store::File and your problems should be solved.
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On 8/2/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Are you running C::P::Auth v0.09? I think that error was happening to
people running v0.08...
Yep. Auth 0.09.
Try it with 0.07. That seems to be working alright (at least for me)
where 0.08 didn't.
-Nilson Santos F. Jr.
I've seen all these numerous posts regarding problems with
Catalyst::Plugin::Authentication and, naively, I thought I'd be immune
to them.
I updated everything yesterday on my development machine and it was
working alright. But today (probably after the session expired or
something like that) my
On 7/28/06, Bogdan Lucaciu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
uhm, do attribute selectors work in IE?
As of IE 6, unfortunately, not.
Hopefully, IE 7 will get a little better. But don't get your hopes up.
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On 7/27/06, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I checked the manpage, and it says $c-request-user is deprecated and
that $c-user should be used instead. There's no mention of $c-user
existing elsewhere in the docs, though, so I'm not sure about that. I
will test and get back to you
On 7/24/06, Dennis Daupert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have a number of tables that contain foreign keys to other tables;
I need to be able to do selects on multiple tables, specifying
particular columns in particular tables.
If you define your relationships correctly you should be able to
On 7/3/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
RFC a proposed API to the DBIC list if you want to see that in 0.08 - or at
the very least throw together a couple of tests for the hack if you want to be
able to rely on it in production :)
I was thinking about that earlier today.
There should
On 7/3/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tend to just modify the relevant ACCEPT_CONTEXT to return a resultset that
already has (e.g.) WHERE order.user_id = $current_uid applied to it, at
which point I can just do $c-model('DBIC::Orders') in my controller code and
it Does The Right
On 7/3/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
and C::M::DBIC::Schema gives you a model per table. I'm not sure I see the
problem here ...
From Catalyst::Model::DBIC::Schema docs there's an example which reads:
# For resultsets, there's an even quicker shortcut:
$c-model('FilmDB::Actor')
On 7/1/06, Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/1/06, Marcus Ramberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So, we've heard nothing from you guys about the development release. I guess
that means one of two things. Either we've made a bugfree catalyst version,
or you guys haven't
On 6/30/06, Christopher H. Laco [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don't do that. Bad things will happen. Always compiled your modules with
the same compiler used for the perl install itself on Windows. To that
point, you could compile perl in .NET, then do the modules that way too.
FUD.
VS.NET 2003
On 6/30/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think that's the point - that AS has switched to gcc and it's *generally*
preferable to use the same compiler as your perl binary was built with.
There's nothing in the release notes indicating that they've done this
(they've recently switched
On 6/29/06, John Napiorkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
writing monolythic cgi type applications. Personally I put all the logic
having to do with manipulating the database into my model class. So things
like adding/removing users or very common searches I put there. Anything
that more than
On 6/29/06, Brandon Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If you find yourself putting code in your View templates that isn't
directly related to rendering this specific flavour of output, it
probably needs to be moved to the Controller. Good code in views:
iterating an arrayref to generate a ul
On 6/29/06, Brandon Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The approach I'm attempting lately (and I haven't gotten it all
working right yet...) is to make Controller base-classes that
implement generic concepts for things like paging and sorting tables
of data (complete with handling form args like
On 6/29/06, Hugh Lampert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
OK, don't mean to sound like a whiner here, and I haven't spent any time
investigating the various GCC packages, but it's making me laugh that
it's been suggested I download a C++ development package just so I can
get my perl modules to
On 6/29/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior wrote:
That involves doing bad things such as using c.param() from the View
but it really was the only practical way (i.e. DRY) I could think of.
So, any suggestions are welcome. ;-)
No, it's the best
On 6/29/06, Matthieu Codron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This does not matter much in most cases except big projects where
business logic elements are reused in various situations around the
application.
Then you put that logic in external regular Perl modules and make your
controllers just use
On 6/28/06, Eduardo Oliveros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm planning to program the logic of the application (the Model in
MVC) previously to start with web page and the presentation.
Actually, the Controller is what is supposed to drive the logic of the
application. The model is really just
On 6/28/06, Eduardo Oliveros [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
When you create a Catalyst application some tests are created also.
I thought calling the Controller actions could be performed by the
testing framework... (without using a browser)...
I guess I was wrong :)
Yes, it can be performed
On 6/28/06, Hugh Lampert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Err, yes... gcc... seems to be a bit of a problem. Hate to impose on
the members of the list, but can anyone point me in the direction of a
good win32 binary GCC package that doesn't require Cygwin or other
environments? the CPAN module was
On 6/26/06, Hugh Lampert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks for responding! Perhaps you can forward this to the mailing
list, as I am unable to reach it from my work (the mail server will not
accept my relays.)
Done. I'll answer your message without removing anything you wrote.
I looked at the
On 6/23/06, Carl Johnstone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Do you mean that you have a shared apache installation under which every
developer runs his/her own code ?
Yes.
I think that if you're really willing to maintain this development
setup then Catalyst won't be a good choice.
I find this
On 6/23/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I understand DBIx::Class:Schema is now in vogue, but I do not have access to
the schema
variant of the model in a PPM. I'm thinking this might be causing my
problem, but I'm
hoping not.
You should try installing a recent ActivePerl
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