Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-25 Thread Bernhard Graf
J. Shirley wrote: On 8/24/07, Bernhard Graf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So either you want to do queueing overhead, dns resolving and SMTPing to the *remote* host yourself or you simply open(MAILER,|sendmail @args). -- Bernhard Graf That's not entirely true, in as much as it may be

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-25 Thread Pedro Melo
Hi, On Aug 25, 2007, at 4:07 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: Bernhard Graf wrote: Don't know about TheSchwartz (btw. what a stupid name) When you write your own message queue that actually works correctly, is supported and documented, and is available freely on the CPAN, you can pick the

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-25 Thread Toby Corkindale
Pedro Melo wrote: Hi, On Aug 25, 2007, at 4:07 AM, Jonathan Rockway wrote: Bernhard Graf wrote: Don't know about TheSchwartz (btw. what a stupid name) When you write your own message queue that actually works correctly, is supported and documented, and is available freely on the CPAN,

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-24 Thread Jesper Krogh
I don't know if you can do Queing but from Jesper's description it didn't seem like order was important. Seemed to me that he just wanted to stash something away and grok it later on. Thats pretty much the requirement. But it needs to be fail-tolerant and survive a reboot of the computer

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-24 Thread J. Shirley
On 8/24/07, Jesper Krogh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if you can do Queing but from Jesper's description it didn't seem like order was important. Seemed to me that he just wanted to stash something away and grok it later on. Thats pretty much the requirement. But it needs to be

RE: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-24 Thread Hartmaier Alexander
runs). -Alex From: J. Shirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2007 6:25 PM To: The elegant MVC web framework Subject: Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue? On 8/24/07, Jesper Krogh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if you can do Queing but from Jesper's

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-24 Thread Bernhard Graf
Hartmaier Alexander wrote: So TheSchwartz may be a good module to queue mails by a Catalyst app for sending them by let’s say a perl script run by cron (or running all the time)?! At the moment I’m sending the mails directly from my Cat app (SMTP to localhost mail daemon) which works

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-24 Thread J. Shirley
On 8/24/07, Bernhard Graf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hartmaier Alexander wrote: So TheSchwartz may be a good module to queue mails by a Catalyst app for sending them by let's say a perl script run by cron (or running all the time)?! At the moment I'm sending the mails directly from my

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-24 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Bernhard Graf wrote: Don't know about TheSchwartz (btw. what a stupid name) When you write your own message queue that actually works correctly, is supported and documented, and is available freely on the CPAN, you can pick the name. In the mean time, STFU. Thanks. Regards, Jonathan Rockway

[Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Jesper Krogh
Hi. This is quite off-topic related to Catalyst but my googling didn't reveal anything. Has anyone seen stuff like a Messages Queue (I dont have other words for it) But a more generic implementation of a thing where you can put in messages and pick them out in some other part of the program.

RE: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Hartmaier Alexander
Database table? -Alex -Original Message- From: Jesper Krogh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; catalyst@lists.rawmode.org@shrek.krogh.cc Subject: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue? Hi. This is quite off-topic related

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Tobias Kremer
Has anyone seen stuff like a Messages Queue (I dont have other words for it) But a more generic implementation of a thing where you can put in messages and pick them out in some other part of the program. It would be nice when you have stuff that takes longer that people usually can wait

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Ash Berlin
] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 3:44 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; catalyst@lists.rawmode.org@shrek.krogh.cc Subject: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue? Hi. This is quite off-topic related to Catalyst but my googling didn't reveal anything. Has anyone seen stuff like a Messages Queue (I

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Mark Knoop
Don't use a DB as the backing store for a message queue if you will ever need to pass a lot of messages thought it - you're just asking for trouble doing it that way. Getting way off topic but, understanding the kind of trouble one can get into using a DB to store messages, how else can

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Michael Richards
Just use something like Amazon's SQS and worry not. On 8/23/07, Mark Knoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't use a DB as the backing store for a message queue if you will ever need to pass a lot of messages thought it - you're just asking for trouble doing it that way. Getting way off

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Brandon Black
On 8/23/07, Mark Knoop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't use a DB as the backing store for a message queue if you will ever need to pass a lot of messages thought it - you're just asking for trouble doing it that way. Getting way off topic but, understanding the kind of trouble one can get

RE: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Alan Humphrey
To give some idea, here's a couple of common products in the commercial world: IBM's MQSeries (now called WebSphere MQ) http://www-306.ibm.com/software/integration/wmq/features/ BEA MessageQ: http://www.bea.com/framework.jsp?CNT=index.htmFP=/content/products/mor e/messageq If you

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread J . G . Konrad
a Perl message queue using POE! http://search.cpan.org/~dsnopek/POE-Component-MessageQueue-0.1.4/lib/POE/Component/MessageQueue.pm On 8/23/07, Alan Humphrey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To give some idea, here's a couple of common products in the commercial world: IBM's MQSeries (now called

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Steve Atkins
On Aug 23, 2007, at 10:39 AM, tprinty wrote: Have you looked at memcache? http://www.danga.com/memcached/ Memcached is nice for caching, and OK for temporary session data, but last time I looked at it I couldn't see any good way to use it for queuing. Is there a trick I missed? Cheers,

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread J. Shirley
On 8/23/07, Tobias Kremer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen stuff like a Messages Queue (I dont have other words for it) But a more generic implementation of a thing where you can put in messages and pick them out in some other part of the program. It would be nice when you have

RE: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Dylan Vanderhoof
: J. Shirley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 10:54 AM To: The elegant MVC web framework Subject: Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue? On 8/23/07, Tobias Kremer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread tprinty
I don't know if you can do Queing but from Jesper's description it didn't seem like order was important. Seemed to me that he just wanted to stash something away and grok it later on. Supposedly the twitter guys have hacked memcached to act as a queue but I can't find anything on how they did it.

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
On 8/23/07, tprinty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Have you looked at memcache? Don't put your messages into memcached unless you don't mind losing some. It is not a database or reliable storage. It's just a cache. - Perrin ___ List:

Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Perrin Harkins
On 8/23/07, Ash Berlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't use a DB as the backing store for a message queue if you will ever need to pass a lot of messages thought it - you're just asking for trouble doing it that way. Like most things, it depends. If you need ACID properties for your messages,

RE: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Robert Mah
PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 1:54 PM To: The elegant MVC web framework Subject: Re: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue? On 8/23/07, Tobias Kremer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has anyone seen stuff like a Messages Queue (I dont have other words for it) But a more generic implementation

RE: [BULK] - RE: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue?

2007-08-23 Thread Mesdaq, Ali
-- -Original Message- From: Robert Mah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 5:57 PM To: 'The elegant MVC web framework' Subject: [BULK] - RE: [Catalyst] A Perl Message Queue? Good message queue systems can exceed 100,000 messages per second in throughput