Re: [Catalyst] c-forwad vs direct method call

2006-08-09 Thread Alex Pavlovic
http://search.cpan.org/~mramberg/Catalyst-Runtime-5.7001/lib/Catalyst/Manual/Intro.pod#Flow_Control A forward is similar to a method call. The main differences are that it wraps the call in an eval to allow exception handling; it automatically passes along the context object ($c or $context);

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Christopher H. Laco wrote: http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2006/8/7/ruby-on-rails-will-ship-with-os-x-10-5-leopard By obsessively marketing Catalyst. Ideally build several web apps that are really, really useful (c.f. Basecamp) market the hell out of them. Make it really

Re: [Catalyst] Dispatch problem: built-in vs. Apache13

2006-08-09 Thread Matt S Trout
Rodney Broom wrote: From: Jesse Sheidlower [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm having a weird problem with one (and only one) of my Cat apps; it works under the built-in server, but something is happening under Apache13 that messes up... Another case of something working under myapp_server.pl but not

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
By obsessively marketing Catalyst. Ideally build several web apps that are really, really useful (c.f. Basecamp) market the hell out of them. I have to use Basecamp at work. Frankly, it's a useless piece of junk. Yes, it has some shiny AJAX crap... but it's pretty buggy. (For example,

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Brian Kirkbride
Simon Wilcox wrote: On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Christopher H. Laco wrote: Make it really really easy to get started for people who don't know much perl. Here we get into a tricky debate about ease-of-use vs flexibility and performance. While not mutually exclusive, it is very difficult and

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
More of my 2 cents :) Rails is easy because, it would appear, it sacrifices TMTOWTDI - they lost me right there. Yup. And from a technical standpoint, rails isn't all that good. ActiveRecord? Great for blogs and Basecamp, bad for everything else. Even my boss picked up on this

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Matt S Trout
Jonathan Rockway wrote: More of my 2 cents :) Rails is easy because, it would appear, it sacrifices TMTOWTDI - they lost me right there. Yup. And from a technical standpoint, rails isn't all that good. ActiveRecord? Great for blogs and Basecamp, bad for everything else. Even my

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Brian Kirkbride wrote: I'd rather have the design decisions for my chosen framework made in consideration of the pragmatic than the marketing side of things. Actually Rails is an emergent framework that's been rolled out from Basecamp. That's why it has functionality holes,

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Simon Wilcox
On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Matt S Trout wrote: Point out that everybody on http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/wiki/LiveApplications disagrees :) Wow, another invisible wiki page. Why isn't that linked directly and prominently off the Catalyst homepage ? How do I get a login to add a site to that page, or

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Matt S Trout
Simon Wilcox wrote: On Wed, 9 Aug 2006, Matt S Trout wrote: Point out that everybody on http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/wiki/LiveApplications disagrees :) Wow, another invisible wiki page. Why isn't that linked directly and prominently off the Catalyst homepage ? It's linked off the wiki

Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst::Model::FileSystem? Anybody who's using their own wanna make one? =)

2006-08-09 Thread Ash Berlin
Catalyst::Model::File: http://search.cpan.org/~ash/Catalyst-Model-File-0.02/lib/Catalyst/Model/File.pm Based on Path::Class, so its platform independent. Any features missing from that that you think you'd want? Ash Dylan Vanderhoof wrote: I've noticed a few people posting about fielsystem

Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst::Model::FileSystem? Anybody who's using their own wanna make one? =)

2006-08-09 Thread Jonathan Rockway
Any features missing from that that you think you'd want? A quick glance doesn't reveal how slurp is implemented, but hopefully you're using sysread. As for features, my app needs (and has implemented) atomic writes, extended filesystem attributes, ctime, mtime, etc. When I get a chance, I'll

Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst::Model::FileSystem? Anybody who's using their own wanna make one? =)

2006-08-09 Thread Dylan Vanderhoof
That looks like it pretty well covers my need. Only other thing I'd find at all useful is a File::Type method, but I can easily call that as part of my wrapper model. It doesn't seem as useful in the generic one. Thanks again, Dylan -Original Message- From: Ash Berlin

Re: [Catalyst] Catalyst::Model::FileSystem? Anybody who's using their own wanna make one? =)

2006-08-09 Thread Dylan Vanderhoof
At first glance, C::M::File seems to cover it. It exposes the Class::Path::File object, which includes a stat method, which was one of the big ones. I'll dig around with that in my copious freetime (haha) and see if I can come up with an addition feature list and/or some patches. -D

[Catalyst] [Announce] Relocated SVN mirror.

2006-08-09 Thread Marcus Ramberg
Hey. To keep things more consistent, the canonical hostname for dev is now dev.catalystframework.org. That means you will have to update your checkouts. For svk it will look something like this: [EMAIL PROTECTED] catalyst]$ svk mirror --relocate //mirror/Catalyst

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Kaare Rasmussen
etc. Does the Comprehensive Ruby Archive Network have that? :) Do you mean the Comprehensive Ruby Archive Portal? Sorry, couldn't resist :-) -- Med venlig hilsen Kaare Rasmussen, Jasonic Jasonic Telefon: +45 3816 2582 Nordre Fasanvej 12 2000 Frederiksberg Email: [EMAIL

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread A. Pagaltzis
* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-08-09 18:55]: (Think about all the infrastructure that CPAN gives you -- local mirrors, CPAN testers, rt.cpan.org, mailing lists, etc. Does the Comprehensive Ruby Archive Network have that? :) There’s RubyForge, though, which offers some services for

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Kieren Diment
On 09/08/06, Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: By obsessively marketing Catalyst. Ideally build several web apps that are really, really useful (c.f. Basecamp) market the hell out of them%])Pretty much, Basecamp is like every other piece of proprietary software -- they already have

[Catalyst] quick windows catinabox question

2006-08-09 Thread Joe Landman
Hi folks: I want to be able to work on my stuff regardless of whether I am booted into windows or linux on my laptop. Most of the time is spent in Linux, but I need to use windows for some things every now and then. I have Catalyst operational on the laptop under SuSE 10.1. Works

Re: [Catalyst] quick windows catinabox question

2006-08-09 Thread Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior
On 8/9/06, Joe Landman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Last I tried, Cygwin had some issues (Matt had been wrestling with it). Is Catinabox working in Cygwin, or will everything just work in Cygwin? Native vs cygwin doesn't matter. I don't know about Cygwin - Catalyst runs alright natively under

Re: [Catalyst] Sigh. How do we get on this list?

2006-08-09 Thread Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior
On 8/9/06, Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Point out that everybody on http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/wiki/LiveApplications disagrees :) I haven't stumbled upon this page before and I'm sort of amazed. I never thought there were so many public facing sites using Catalyst. I really think

Re: [Catalyst] question on storing session in win32 machine

2006-08-09 Thread Nilson Santos Figueiredo Junior
On 8/9/06, Nagarajan M [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using **Cache::FileCache** since **Session::Store::FastMmap** is not supported in Win32. Use C::P::Session::Store::File and your problems should be solved. -Nilson Santos F. Jr. ___ List:

Re: [Catalyst] question on storing session in win32 machine

2006-08-09 Thread Daniel Westermann-Clark
On 2006-08-10 03:30:51 +0100, Nagarajan M wrote: [error] Caught exception in engine Can't locate object method store_session_da ta via package MyApp at C:/Perl/site/lib/Catalyst\Plugin\Session.pm line 131. MyApp.pm loaded plugins === use Catalyst qw/

Re: [Catalyst] question on storing session in win32 machine

2006-08-09 Thread Nagarajan M
Thanks Daniel, It works! Daniel Westermann-Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 2006-08-10 03:30:51 +0100, Nagarajan M wrote: [error] Caught exception in engine "Can't locate object method "store_session_da ta" via package "MyApp" at C:/Perl/site/lib/Catalyst\Plugin\Session.pm line 131." MyApp.pm