* Gene Selkov [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2007-12-28 18:40]:
It will work if your backend supports subselects and will fail
otherwise.
Let’s not pussyfoot around: there’s only one SQL DBMS which
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of it, but that’s now
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more about Ruby conferences and why they suck, and why the
Pickaxe book is what killed Ruby.
All I can say is… wow.
I’ll be re-assessing and processing for a while.
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That’s all I can think of right now.
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If you wrote the model code yourself, and you did it all inside
your Catalyst::Model subclass, well, that’s the wrong approach…
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* Daniel McBrearty [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-06 00:00]:
[debug] abçöeü
[debug] $VAR1 = ab\x{c3}\x{a7}\x{c3}\x{b6}e\x{c3}\x{bc};
[debug] it's UTF8!
Err, why doesn’t Dumper say ab\x{e7}\x{f6}e\x{fc}? Strange that
the first line looks correct, though.
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than GET and POST? Are you asking about why
it’s important to categorise verbs as non-/safe in addition to
non-/idempotent? Is it something all together different?
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* Zbigniew Lukasiak [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-01-22 08:35]:
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I don't understand this question. It sounds like you have
some confusion about several distinct things and that you
don't actually understand what idempotence
, even if it *really* doesn’t fit your needs, it
gives you an idea for how a REST service should look like.
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about all this? Is there a way that will work now *and* after
the app/context switch jshirley mentioned?
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* Yuval Kogman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-07 22:45]:
The only plausible reason I can think of for using threads out
of choice is... uh. can't think of any. =P
[x] You’re running on Windows.
(Not a *good* reason, but *a* reason.)
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* Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-02-09 19:15]:
On Sat, Feb 09, 2008 at 06:39:27PM +0100, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
So now I have a `add_dbi_provider` method in MyApp::View::TT,
and then in MyApp.pm I do
__PACKAGE__-setup;
__PACKAGE__-view('TT')-add_dbi_provider
future?
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Perl.) It’s not an issue to write Perl to generate your output,
as long as you keep that Perl code in separate modules whose
*only* job is to render the stash.
And that’s what Template::Declare makes you do.
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* Andrew Rodland [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-09 21:40]:
On Sunday 09 March 2008 07:43:04 am Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
I see your bid and raise this:
autocmd BufRead */templates/tt/*set ft=tt2html
autocmd BufRead */templates/mason/* set ft=mason
Wheee
%{REQUEST_FILENAME} !-f
RewriteRule ^(.*)$ script/dispatch.fcgi/$1 [PT,L]
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think there’s direct synergy here, but it seems to me
that having a conversation between the projects would be a good
idea.
I very much like the idea of using the web itself as the social
network instead of using a walled garden built on top of it.
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* Matt Lawrence [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-13 10:55]:
Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
So when would 403 happen? F.ex. if access to the resource is
restricted to certain IP ranges, and you are requesting the
resource from an IP outside of those. Or in case of Apache,
you are asking for a URI that’s
Hi Ashley,
* Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-14 16:40]:
I've been threatening for more than a year to write a plugin to
do this. I wrote to ask for CPAN/method name suggestions,
Aristotle gave me good advice which I'll have to dig up.
you mean this:
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to decode
already-utf8-flagged strings.
I'd say that's the root problem.
Yes; and that’s exactly what Jon said.
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it that way?
__PACKAGE__-deny_access_unless( '/books/delete', [ $_ ] )
for qw/user admin/;
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: Catalyst::Response::redirect should
translate 30[37] to 302 if $c-req-protocol says the HTTP
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= search string },
# detach = 1 ??
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That is so wordy I don’t know what the point is compared to doing
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* Chisel Wright [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-20 21:05]:
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 01:39:58PM +0100, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
But you can write multiple rules for the same action; why not
do it that way?
__PACKAGE__-deny_access_unless( '/books/delete', [ $_ ] )
for qw/user
* Bill Moseley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-03-22 15:10]:
I do think encoding and decoding are low-level enough that they
should be core and not a plugin.
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is your question a frequently asked one?
I’d think this should be documented somewhere more appriopriate.
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* Paul Makepeace [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-02 14:35]:
There would be some good mileage out of
Catalyst::Manual::Gotchas
++
Like `perldoc perltrap`.
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that’s far more time-consuming and slow a process than it needs
to because no big-picture map of the source exists.
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of OpenID and in other similar scenarios on the open web it
would be interesting to know the provider, not just the identity.
A quick skim of Net::OpenID::Consumer does not reveal a way to
get at this, however… is there?
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* Andy Grundman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-07 15:30]:
On Apr 7, 2008, at 8:57 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
You mean, a webserver for running Catalyst apps? ’Cause in the
general case, a single-process, select-based server will yield
higher performance.
In order to do that properly
the user configure
a mapping from provider URIs to roles?
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* Kieren Diment [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-11 14:40]:
I must say I have no idea what the best solution would be, any
ideas?
I would say XML::Atom::SimpleFeed, but I may be biased. ;-)
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* Toby Corkindale [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-17 03:40]:
On Wed, Apr 16, 2008 at 11:20:40AM +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
2. URI design is important, but not because it has anything
to do with REST.
Your URIs could be /aslkdjsad42 and /xyzzysd-291kk1 for
all REST cares
* Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-18 21:30]:
push(@result,lib$param/b/li);
push(@result,ul);
That’s invalid HTML. You can’t put an `ul` directly inside a
`ul` like that.
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one or two sentences is probably harder on a
blind user than a sighted one, who can just left-click rapidly to
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won’t
work.
(And anyway, for that sort of thing you should be using curl:
curl -O 'http://www.jrock.us/fp2008/catalyst/slide[1-48].html'
except of course that this won’t work for the same reason.)
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unspoken
rule, and people arrived at wildly different interpretations of
the silence of the docs.
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* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-24 19:10]:
* On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
* Jonathan Rockway [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-24 11:25]:
* On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Jon Schutz wrote:
No problems, if that's what the Catalyst standard says; I
must have missed it. Where
Hi Wade.Stuart,
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* On Thu, Apr 24 2008, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
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and bolts to make it useful for non-trivial uses (which is
basically synonymous with “in human-operated browsers”).)
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* Ashley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-25 22:20]:
I like PUT and DELETE too but I'm not going to abandon POST as
their stand-in (or fall-back) any time soon.
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Request-REST-ForBrowsers/
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from each other, although I’m not sure how far this can be
taken while respecting the stability/backcompat imperative.
But in the meantime please quit shifting the laziness blame to
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* J. Shirley [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-27 23:45]:
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 11:05 AM, Aristotle Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
As I try to make sense of the codebase I keep stumbling over
places where the setup is quite incestuous: components often
do not really set themselves up
software libraries that hope to attract programmers
as users and contributors, so the comparison is a category error
to begin with.
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* Toby Corkindale [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-04-30 10:40]:
I was thinking something like this: (Abbreviated code below)
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Action-REST/
http://search.cpan.org/dist/Catalyst-Request-REST-ForBrowsers/
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. As I said, we have
seen too little of the code to make any meaningful suggestions.
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* Matt S Trout [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-04 16:25]:
On Sun, May 04, 2008 at 09:10:56AM +0200, Aristotle Pagaltzis wrote:
* luke saunders [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-04 02:50]:
Also it doesn't distinguish between POST, PUT, DELETE and
GET HTTP requests favouring instead entirely separate
* John Napiorkowski [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-05-05 16:45]:
I heard Twitter was abandoning RoR.
Except, they aren’t. http://twitter.com/ev/statuses/801530348
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and
inheriting *in this case* is, a hack to get round Chained not
playing how I'd like it to)..
Au contraire. Inheritance is part of the language. Why should
Catalyst invent a limited Catalyst-specific parallel mechanism?
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more of the state as things to manipulate.
If you give an example of what you mean I can give you one of
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parameters… hm.
- exposing some class data (as opposed to instance data) and
maybe class methods?
Example? I can’t quite imagine what you would want to do here.
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-{current_view}, then
- a config setting 'default_view', or
- check if there is only one view, and return it if that's the case.
Similar rule for the model, btw.
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(5) http://agaton.scsys.co.uk/~matthewt/catsite/catsite-Penfold.pdf
I kinda like that one – I am a minimalist, myself. Only problem
is, there’s not much design there… it’s literally a half-hour
job and it looks that way.
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will
get its feet wet.
Isn’t that the purpose of the home page…? A Getting Started page
is more the place to put an example app download, a screencast
link, a whole bunch of tutorials… stuff like that.
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promise that I'll make it into the room.
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on directions from the designer we were working with, and it
produced a very nice effect. Unfortunately it’s no longer
online, but I can let you take a look on my dev box if you want.
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the modifier to all of the methods at once.
Note that using method modifiers instead of Cat dispatch means
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. To use it you simply use the
Encode::encode and Encode::decode functions as always, just with
an encoding name of `MIME-Header` instead of something more usual
like `UTF-8` or `ISO-8859-1`.
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that requires so much care from so many people (module
authors, namely) is just not a trustworthy safety net.
It would still be a worthwhile task though: taint mode is useful
as a layer in an in-depth defence even if you cannot rely on it
alone.
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* Dermot [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-01 18:25]:
Scalar::Util is up-to-date
Yes, but only half installed. You need the XS component but you
only have the pure-Perl version. Force-install it again.
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be murder if
I wanted to install this on more than one server.
Complain to your packager/distributor that they shipped a broken
perl. Anyone who packages a perl of newer vintage than mid-2002,
without Scalar::Util’s XS part, is doing it wrong.
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* Jose Luis Martinez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-08 16:50]:
http://icanhascheezburger.files.wordpress.com/2008/08/funny-pictures-sometimes-the-mail-gets-you.jpg
I’m not sure that caption is how we want users to think of
a Catalyst mail app. ;-)
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handles API
stability differently. You want full control over which version
of which modules you install. (Strictly speaking you even want
to keep your own vetted CPAN mirror. :-) )
None of this, btw, is difficult.
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are in that position.
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-19 21:55]:
$c-response-headers-header('Content-disposition:' = attachment;
filename=$filename );
You forgot
$filename =~ s!!\\!g;
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* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-20 17:55]:
Aristotle Pagaltzis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 08/19/2008 04:39:55 PM:
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-08-19 21:55]:
$c-response-headers-header('Content-disposition:' = attachment;
filename=$filename );
You forgot
for a Moose-ified version instead.
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) can therefore also be debugged standalone in production,
c) can be an exact replica of the server that runs on the
developer’s machine.
(Although the last point is watered down a little by adding
a reverse proxy to the mix in production.)
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.
So this is all just anecdotal so far, but it worked perfectly for
me. If you think it might work for you, just give it a try – it
takes very little work to do so! I came up with this setup almost
by accident, in fact.
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that attacks can be initiated from
any page on the web.
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together with the
server secret using HMAC, then concatenate the resulting hash.
Now you have a token that says “at $datetime, $user was granted
permission to POST to $uri, verifiable by $digest.”
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attack is like breaking in
through the window to steal the house keys so you can unlock the
front door. Attackers don’t build Rube Goldberg contraptions.
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publish the result too if there’s any
interest.
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attack from doing
too much harm.
In a sense, it’s the next step in the progression from CSRF to
XSS. CSRF is dangerous primarily because of how easy it is to
set up an attack.
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* Lee Aylward [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2008-10-03 00:40]:
Assuming that your shared host has all of the required modules
installed you can use the .cgi script found in the /scripts
directory of your catalyst application.
That’s going to be extraordinarily slow.
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