[cayugabirds-l] Redpolls
Common Redpolls, which I had not seen since before Christmas, returned to our feeders this morning. A flock of about 30. Bob McGuire Snyder Hill -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Raptor Love is in the Air
Driving around on Saturday in So. Cayuga County and North Lansing, I saw two different pairs of Red Tailed Hawks in close proximity to each other, flying around. Donna Scott Lansing - Original Message - From: Alicia Plotkin To: cayugabirds-l Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:24 AM Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Raptor Love is in the Air Yesterday about 5 pm I heard two Great Horned Owls dueting close by while the dogs and I were out stretching our legs. After several minutes the duet changed to a single 'hoot' that was repeated over 30 times evenly on one pitch, then a short pause, then another set of 37 hoots, then back to duets. According to the Owl CDs put out by the Lab several years ago, this is a 'copulation call.' Also saw two Red Tailed Hawks flying together on Friday afternoon, so close that their wing tips nearly touched, then they landed high up in a bare tree and sat together quietly side by side, still there without changing their position when I had to leave after 5 minutes. Alicia Plotkin Ovid -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Redpolls
My flock of C. Redpolls that numbered close to 100 around Christmas is down to 30-40, so I guess the others are moving to your locations! Donna Scott Lansing - Original Message - From: bob mcguire To: cayugabirdlist Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 7:40 AM Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Redpolls Common Redpolls, which I had not seen since before Christmas, returned to our feeders this morning. A flock of about 30. Bob McGuire Snyder Hill -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crows coming in to roost
Thanks for the information. When we were radio-tracking crows to roost we found they could spend the night in lots of different places. Kevin -Original Message- From: bounce-72559731-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72559731-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of W. Larry Hymes Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 4:37 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Crows coming in to roost A few minutes ago hundreds of crows flew over east hill heading from the direction of the compost piles to find roosts. It looked as though some headed towards downtown and others headed more towards campus. Kevin, are crows faithful to a roost, or do they decide on the spur of the moment where they would like to go. I got the impression that many of the birds couldn't make up their minds and kept wavering back and forth. They kept calling incessantly, as though having a heated discussion as to which way to go on this particular night. Larry -- W. Larry Hymes 120 Vine Street, Ithaca, NY 14850 (H) 607-277-0759, w...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Crows coming in to roost
From: bounce-72559871-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72559871-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of nutter.d...@me.com Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2013 8:29 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Crows coming in to roost I think there are some crows which stick to their territories, while others sleep in central roosts and feed in farm country. --Dave Nutter Good guess. Most of the crows we radio-tracked spent most of their nights sleeping on their home territories. Their use of the large roosts was intermittent and unpredictable. I suspect all the wandering visitors us the large roosts, but don't have the data to prove it. Kevin -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] midday crows question
Hi all, The local discussion of crows reminded me of something I'd observed in early December while at a rural conference center in Deerfield, MA. During the last hour of the morning session--not that i wasn't totally focused, of course!--the background noise grew louder and louder with calls of crows. Right after lunch I walked about 1/3 mile down the road towards an extensive woods divided by a power-line right of way. There were uncountable crows, but behaving as I'd never seen during the evening roosting phenomenon we get here in downtown Ithaca. The crows I observed were thinly spread over a great distance--I couldn't tell how far along the power-line cut in both directions. There were one or two birds per tree, high in the leafless branches, calling constantly and very restless: playing a kind of musical branches as one bird would take off, fly not very far, setting off another individual into a short flight, etc. I stayed a half hour in one spot and the activity and noise did not decrease, nor was there a discernible direction or pattern to the movement. Fascinating--as crows usually are. One person suggested it had to do with deer hunting season. We did hear distant shots --but regular, as if on a timer device designed toscare crows? But then we got back to our conference business. Nancy Nancy Gabriel n...@cornell.edumailto:n...@cornell.edu 109 Sears St, Ithaca NY 14850 607 277 8930 -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Redpolls in Dryden Finally
After hearing the rest of the county having Redpolls I finally have some at my feeders here in Dryden. Carl -- For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know Unknown Marine Khe Sahn, Vietnam -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
RE: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake
Hi all, First of all, after reading John's post, when I suggested that CBC should do something about hunting was not to stop hunting, but to designate some locations on the lake to be free from being hunting locations, so both birders and birds can enjoy some peace. Why is it wrong if birders feel that they love to have some locations free of hunters and hunting? Don't we think we also have same right as hunters who think they would love to hunt in all areas? So come to a compromise! So what is wrong in making some good locations on Cayuga Lake bird and birder friendly? Hunters can share some locations with us for our pleasure! I think number of birders and hunters around Cayuga lake must be very similar if not higher for birders. I think sport hunting is the one which bothers me, if you are hunting for food then it is ok with me, but just for the pleasure of killing something that definitely annoys me. If you are thinking of sports of hunting flying objects, have some artificial targets or may be try some falling leaves or some other similar targets. Sorry for bursting out like this, instead of working on the proposal! Meena From: bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Nari Mistry Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:53 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake I strongly endorse the wise comments of Jody Enck Ken Rosenberg asking for restraint in advocating for a ban on duck hunting on Cayuga Lake. Birders tend to believe that we are a huge beneficial community that can do no wrong. The reality is that the world looks at us with benign amusement. To set ourselves up as our viewpoint is best for everyone is a mistake. I am just as concerned about gunshots and disturbance of wildlife and humans, but I don't think we can justify a ban. While bird conservation arguments may be useful, it does not appear to me that waterfowl conservation is threatened by hunting on Cayuga Lake, as Ken has pointed out. So the argument becomes just my preference against others'. Pushing for a ban on duck-hunting on the lake can easily be regarded by hunters as the first step in trying to ban hunting in the fields and woods, leading to acrimonious name-calling and the end of any good relationship between birders and land-owners, hunters and real people. A much better course of action would be to have a dialog with duck-hunters clubs and to explain the beneficial need for hunting away from shore and avoiding deliberate disturbance and flushing of birds to gain an advantage. I hope a reasonable course of action is chosen. Nari Mistry -- Nari B. Mistry, Ithaca, NY To see my paintings, visit http://www.ArtbyNari.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basicshttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Informationhttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm Archives: The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirdshttp://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Nethttp://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Bird Conservation -- REALLY!
Hi all, When I think about the topic of bird conservation, I think about all the great work that gets done at the local level. In particular, I think about conservation actions that increase bird habitat (e.g., habitat restoration and management) as well as actions that slow down the loss of bird habitat (e.g., conservation easements and set-asides). There also are important actions aimed more at birds than at bird habitat per se. For example, I think of the issues of used fishing line receptacles, putting up next boxes or other structures (osprey platforms), etc. I personally am thrilled that the Cayuga Bird Club has recently started up a conservation committee to take a more active role in bird conservation locally. All of this has gotten me thinking about how somebody knows that bird conservation is occurring. What kinds of things do we count as successes? I think there probably are lots of different possible answers. I ask this mostly because if we all want to (1) achieve more bird conservation on the ground locally, and (2) attract more people to accomplish that conservation, I think it would be particularly useful to understand and communicate about what kinds of conservation “outcomes” we’d like to see happen. I think it’s hard to get my friends and neighbors interested in bird conservation if they don’t really know what that means. I hope this stimulates some fruitful discussion. Thanks. Jody Jody W. Enck, PhD Human Dimensions of Natural Resources Cornell Lab of Ornithology -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake
Hey All, I would just like to reiterate that I think this subject is very worthy of further discussion with knowledgeable people engaged in the pros and cons of establishing some gun free zones around the lake shore. I do not consider myself to be that knowledgeable person but I see from what has already been offered here that there are many of you out there. The listserv will probably not be the best arena for this, as is already apparent. Passions can run high on a subject like this. As passions can escalate quickly on almost any conservation issue, land use issue, pet freedom issue etc. Can some of us take steps to begin a face to face conversation and see where this might take us? I am not sure if the Conservation Action Committee of the Cayuga Bird Club would be a willing facilitator but I think that might offer at least a venue. Perhaps interested people can communicate privately about next steps? Thanks. Linda Orkin Cayuga Bird Club On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi all, ** ** First of all, after reading John’s post, when I suggested that CBC should do something about hunting was not to stop hunting, but to designate some locations on the lake to be free from being hunting locations, so both birders and birds can enjoy some peace. ** ** Why is it wrong if birders feel that they love to have some locations free of hunters and hunting? Don’t we think we also have same right as hunters who think they would love to hunt in all areas? So come to a compromise!** ** ** ** So what is wrong in making some good locations on Cayuga Lake bird and birder friendly? ** ** Hunters can share some locations with us for our pleasure! I think number of birders and hunters around Cayuga lake must be very similar if not higher for birders. ** ** I think sport hunting is the one which bothers me, if you are hunting for food then it is ok with me, but just for the pleasure of killing something that definitely annoys me. If you are thinking of sports of hunting flying objects, have some artificial targets or may be try some falling leaves or some other similar targets. ** ** Sorry for bursting out like this, instead of working on the proposal! ** ** Meena ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto: bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu] *On Behalf Of *Nari Mistry *Sent:* Monday, January 07, 2013 10:53 AM *To:* CAYUGABIRDS-L *Subject:* [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake ** ** I strongly endorse the wise comments of Jody Enck Ken Rosenberg asking for restraint in advocating for a ban on duck hunting on Cayuga Lake. Birders tend to believe that we are a huge beneficial community that can do no wrong. The reality is that the world looks at us with benign amusement. To set ourselves up as our viewpoint is best for everyone is a mistake. I am just as concerned about gunshots and disturbance of wildlife and humans, but I don't think we can justify a ban. While bird conservation arguments may be useful, it does not appear to me that waterfowl conservation is threatened by hunting on Cayuga Lake, as Ken has pointed out. So the argument becomes just my preference against others'. Pushing for a ban on duck-hunting on the lake can easily be regarded by hunters as the first step in trying to ban hunting in the fields and woods, leading to acrimonious name-calling and the end of any good relationship between birders and land-owners, hunters and real people. A much better course of action would be to have a dialog with duck-hunters clubs and to explain the beneficial need for hunting away from shore and avoiding deliberate disturbance and flushing of birds to gain an advantage. I hope a reasonable course of action is chosen. Nari Mistry -- Nari B. Mistry, Ithaca, NY To see my paintings, visit http://www.ArtbyNari.com -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME*** * Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES** ** Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/ !* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail
[cayugabirds-l] purpose of the list serve.
I totally agree with Linda that the Cayuga Birds List Serve is not the arena for debates. I thought this site was for bird observations. Dick Clements From: Linda Orkin Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 11:43 AM To: Meena Haribal Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake Hey All, I would just like to reiterate that I think this subject is very worthy of further discussion with knowledgeable people engaged in the pros and cons of establishing some gun free zones around the lake shore. I do not consider myself to be that knowledgeable person but I see from what has already been offered here that there are many of you out there. The listserv will probably not be the best arena for this, as is already apparent. Passions can run high on a subject like this. As passions can escalate quickly on almost any conservation issue, land use issue, pet freedom issue etc. Can some of us take steps to begin a face to face conversation and see where this might take us? I am not sure if the Conservation Action Committee of the Cayuga Bird Club would be a willing facilitator but I think that might offer at least a venue. Perhaps interested people can communicate privately about next steps? Thanks. Linda Orkin Cayuga Bird Club On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi all, First of all, after reading John’s post, when I suggested that CBC should do something about hunting was not to stop hunting, but to designate some locations on the lake to be free from being hunting locations, so both birders and birds can enjoy some peace. Why is it wrong if birders feel that they love to have some locations free of hunters and hunting? Don’t we think we also have same right as hunters who think they would love to hunt in all areas? So come to a compromise! So what is wrong in making some good locations on Cayuga Lake bird and birder friendly? Hunters can share some locations with us for our pleasure! I think number of birders and hunters around Cayuga lake must be very similar if not higher for birders. I think sport hunting is the one which bothers me, if you are hunting for food then it is ok with me, but just for the pleasure of killing something that definitely annoys me. If you are thinking of sports of hunting flying objects, have some artificial targets or may be try some falling leaves or some other similar targets. Sorry for bursting out like this, instead of working on the proposal! Meena From: bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Nari Mistry Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:53 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake I strongly endorse the wise comments of Jody Enck Ken Rosenberg asking for restraint in advocating for a ban on duck hunting on Cayuga Lake. Birders tend to believe that we are a huge beneficial community that can do no wrong. The reality is that the world looks at us with benign amusement. To set ourselves up as our viewpoint is best for everyone is a mistake. I am just as concerned about gunshots and disturbance of wildlife and humans, but I don't think we can justify a ban. While bird conservation arguments may be useful, it does not appear to me that waterfowl conservation is threatened by hunting on Cayuga Lake, as Ken has pointed out. So the argument becomes just my preference against others'. Pushing for a ban on duck-hunting on the lake can easily be regarded by hunters as the first step in trying to ban hunting in the fields and woods, leading to acrimonious name-calling and the end of any good relationship between birders and land-owners, hunters and real people. A much better course of action would be to have a dialog with duck-hunters clubs and to explain the beneficial need for hunting away from shore and avoiding deliberate disturbance and flushing of birds to gain an advantage. I hope a reasonable course of action is chosen. Nari Mistry -- Nari B. Mistry, Ithaca, NY To see my paintings, visit http://www.ArtbyNari.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake
This is a perfect way to proceed with this, I believe, and I look forward to having all who are interested contact Candace to discuss their interest and willingness in participating. I think the listserv serves a valuable role in starting these types of debates and discussions, but once a couple of points of view have been expressed, it seems to me it is time to transition to off list action bolstered by information, facts and yes, emotion. Thanks much. Linda Orkin On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:14 PM, Candace Cornell cec...@gmail.com wrote: I'll put this topic on our agenda for our next CAC meeting, tentatively set for Thursday, January 24 at 7 pm. Candace On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Nari Mistry n...@cornell.edu wrote: ** I strongly endorse the wise comments of Jody Enck Ken Rosenberg asking for restraint in advocating for a ban on duck hunting on Cayuga Lake. Birders tend to believe that we are a huge beneficial community that can do no wrong. The reality is that the world looks at us with benign amusement. To set ourselves up as our viewpoint is best for everyone is a mistake. I am just as concerned about gunshots and disturbance of wildlife and humans, but I don't think we can justify a ban. While bird conservation arguments may be useful, it does not appear to me that waterfowl conservation is threatened by hunting on Cayuga Lake, as Ken has pointed out. So the argument becomes just my preference against others'. Pushing for a ban on duck-hunting on the lake can easily be regarded by hunters as the first step in trying to ban hunting in the fields and woods, leading to acrimonious name-calling and the end of any good relationship between birders and land-owners, hunters and real people. A much better course of action would be to have a dialog with duck-hunters clubs and to explain the beneficial need for hunting away from shore and avoiding deliberate disturbance and flushing of birds to gain an advantage. I hope a reasonable course of action is chosen. Nari Mistry -- Nari B. Mistry, Ithaca, NY To see my paintings, visit http://www.ArtbyNari.com -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/ !* -- -- *Cayugabirds-L List Info:* Welcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME Rules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES Subscribe, Configuration and Leavehttp://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm *Archives:* The Mail Archivehttp://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html Surfbirds http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds BirdingOnThe.Net http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html *Please submit your observations to eBirdhttp://ebird.org/content/ebird/ !* -- -- Don't ask what your bird club can do for you, ask what you can do for your bird club!! ')_,/ -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] purpose of the list serve.
Personally, I find the debates and discussions about birds and bird conservation among the most interesting postings on this listserv--and in the long run, these issues are very important to our continued ability to enjoy watching birds in this area (or anywhere), so they are quite relevant to the listserv topic. Sandy Podulka At 12:10 PM 1/7/2013, you wrote: I totally agree with Linda that the Cayuga Birds List Serve is not the arena for debates. I thought this site was for bird observations. Dick Clements From: mailto:wingmagi...@gmail.comLinda Orkin Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 11:43 AM To: mailto:m...@cornell.eduMeena Haribal Cc: mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.eduCAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake Hey All, I would just like to reiterate that I think this subject is very worthy of further discussion with knowledgeable people engaged in the pros and cons of establishing some gun free zones around the lake shore. I do not consider myself to be that knowledgeable person but I see from what has already been offered here that there are many of you out there. The listserv will probably not be the best arena for this, as is already apparent. Passions can run high on a subject like this. As passions can escalate quickly on almost any conservation issue, land use issue, pet freedom issue etc. Can some of us take steps to begin a face to face conversation and see where this might take us? I am not sure if the Conservation Action Committee of the Cayuga Bird Club would be a willing facilitator but I think that might offer at least a venue. Perhaps interested people can communicate privately about next steps? Thanks. Linda Orkin Cayuga Bird Club On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Meena Haribal mailto:m...@cornell.edum...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi all, First of all, after reading John's post, when I suggested that CBC should do something about hunting was not to stop hunting, but to designate some locations on the lake to be free from being hunting locations, so both birders and birds can enjoy some peace. Why is it wrong if birders feel that they love to have some locations free of hunters and hunting? Don't we think we also have same right as hunters who think they would love to hunt in all areas? So come to a compromise! So what is wrong in making some good locations on Cayuga Lake bird and birder friendly? Hunters can share some locations with us for our pleasure! I think number of birders and hunters around Cayuga lake must be very similar if not higher for birders. I think sport hunting is the one which bothers me, if you are hunting for food then it is ok with me, but just for the pleasure of killing something that definitely annoys me. If you are thinking of sports of hunting flying objects, have some artificial targets or may be try some falling leaves or some other similar targets. Sorry for bursting out like this, instead of working on the proposal! Meena From: mailto:bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edubounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Nari Mistry Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:53 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake I strongly endorse the wise comments of Jody Enck Ken Rosenberg asking for restraint in advocating for a ban on duck hunting on Cayuga Lake. Birders tend to believe that we are a huge beneficial community that can do no wrong. The reality is that the world looks at us with benign amusement. To set ourselves up as our viewpoint is best for everyone is a mistake. I am just as concerned about gunshots and disturbance of wildlife and humans, but I don't think we can justify a ban. While bird conservation arguments may be useful, it does not appear to me that waterfowl conservation is threatened by hunting on Cayuga Lake, as Ken has pointed out. So the argument becomes just my preference against others'. Pushing for a ban on duck-hunting on the lake can easily be regarded by hunters as the first step in trying to ban hunting in the fields and woods, leading to acrimonious name-calling and the end of any good relationship between birders and land-owners, hunters and real people. A much better course of action would be to have a dialog with duck-hunters clubs and to explain the beneficial need for hunting away from shore and avoiding deliberate disturbance and flushing of birds to gain an advantage. I hope a reasonable course of action is chosen. Nari Mistry -- Nari B. Mistry, Ithaca, NY To see my paintings, visit http://www.ArtbyNari.comhttp://www.ArtbyNari.com -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOMEWelcome and Basics http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsRULESRules and Information http://www.northeastbirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htmSubscribe, Configuration and
RE: [cayugabirds-l] purpose of the list serve.
Cayugabirds-L - Information and Rules Cayugabirds-L is an email list (the List) focused on the discussion of birds and birding in the Finger Lakes Region, centered on the Cayuga Lake Basin. The primary purpose of the List is to disseminate information about wild bird sightings in and around the Finger Lakes Region in a timely manner and to provide an effective electronic forum for Upstate New York area birders. Questions and limited discussion on topics such as bird behavior, identification, conservation, and distribution, especially as these subjects relate to wild birds in the Finger Lakes Region and the Cayuga Lake Basin, are welcomed and encouraged. The List is not for the discussion of pet birds. From: bounce-72561880-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72561880-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Sandy Podulka Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:30 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] purpose of the list serve. Personally, I find the debates and discussions about birds and bird conservation among the most interesting postings on this listserv--and in the long run, these issues are very important to our continued ability to enjoy watching birds in this area (or anywhere), so they are quite relevant to the listserv topic. Sandy Podulka At 12:10 PM 1/7/2013, you wrote: I totally agree with Linda that the Cayuga Birds List Serve is not the arena for debates. I thought this site was for bird observations. Dick Clements From: Linda Orkinmailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 11:43 AM To: Meena Haribalmailto:m...@cornell.edu Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-Lmailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake Hey All, I would just like to reiterate that I think this subject is very worthy of further discussion with knowledgeable people engaged in the pros and cons of establishing some gun free zones around the lake shore. I do not consider myself to be that knowledgeable person but I see from what has already been offered here that there are many of you out there. The listserv will probably not be the best arena for this, as is already apparent. Passions can run high on a subject like this. As passions can escalate quickly on almost any conservation issue, land use issue, pet freedom issue etc. Can some of us take steps to begin a face to face conversation and see where this might take us? I am not sure if the Conservation Action Committee of the Cayuga Bird Club would be a willing facilitator but I think that might offer at least a venue. Perhaps interested people can communicate privately about next steps? Thanks. Linda Orkin Cayuga Bird Club On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi all, First of all, after reading John?s post, when I suggested that CBC should do something about hunting was not to stop hunting, but to designate some locations on the lake to be free from being hunting locations, so both birders and birds can enjoy some peace. Why is it wrong if birders feel that they love to have some locations free of hunters and hunting? Don?t we think we also have same right as hunters who think they would love to hunt in all areas? So come to a compromise! So what is wrong in making some good locations on Cayuga Lake bird and birder friendly? Hunters can share some locations with us for our pleasure! I think number of birders and hunters around Cayuga lake must be very similar if not higher for birders. I think sport hunting is the one which bothers me, if you are hunting for food then it is ok with me, but just for the pleasure of killing something that definitely annoys me. If you are thinking of sports of hunting flying objects, have some artificial targets or may be try some falling leaves or some other similar targets. Sorry for bursting out like this, instead of working on the proposal! Meena From: bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu [ mailto:bounce-72561577-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Nari Mistry Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 10:53 AM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake I strongly endorse the wise comments of Jody Enck Ken Rosenberg asking for restraint in advocating for a ban on duck hunting on Cayuga Lake. Birders tend to believe that we are a huge beneficial community that can do no wrong. The reality is that the world looks at us with benign amusement. To set ourselves up as our viewpoint is best for everyone is a mistake. I am just as concerned about gunshots and disturbance of wildlife and humans, but I don't think we can justify a ban. While bird conservation arguments may be useful, it does not appear to me that waterfowl conservation is threatened by hunting on Cayuga Lake, as Ken
[cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park Peregrine
I made a very quick scan of Stewart Park at 12:30 today. I didn't find anything notable except for a PEREGRINE FALCON perched on the ice edge roughly straight out from the dock. Other birds observed included HOODED MERGANSER, COMMON MERGANSER, MALLARDS, BLACK DUCK, CORMORANT, and COOTS, in addition to the usual gull species and geese. Anne Marie Johnson -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
Re: [cayugabirds-l] purpose of the list serve.
Interestingly, nowhere in the information and rules does it explicitly allow discussion of the information and rules. I propose that this branch of this thread be disbanded immediately. :-) On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:46 PM, Linda Orkin wingmagi...@gmail.commailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, and I agree with Meena and Sandy, I find myself wonderfully informed by posts on these topics, I am only suggesting that discussion should lead to something. I am sorry if I led anyone to believe that I don't think this subject was appropriate, especially as a catalyst. I look forward to reading any further information and opinion but I also hope that those people who offer comment will be able to participate in action. Linda Orkin On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote: Cayugabirds-L – Information and Rules Cayugabirds-L is an email list (the List) focused on the discussion of birds and birding in the Finger Lakes Region, centered on the Cayuga Lake Basin. The primary purpose of the List is to disseminate information about wild bird sightings in and around the Finger Lakes Region in a timely manner and to provide an effective electronic forum for Upstate New York area birders. Questions and limited discussion on topics such as bird behavior, identification, conservation, and distribution, especially as these subjects relate to wild birds in the Finger Lakes Region and the Cayuga Lake Basin, are welcomed and encouraged. The List is not for the discussion of pet birds. From: bounce-72561880-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72561880-3493...@list.cornell.edu [mailto:bounce-72561880-3493...@list.cornell.edumailto:bounce-72561880-3493...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Sandy Podulka Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 12:30 PM To: CAYUGABIRDS-L Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] purpose of the list serve. Personally, I find the debates and discussions about birds and bird conservation among the most interesting postings on this listserv--and in the long run, these issues are very important to our continued ability to enjoy watching birds in this area (or anywhere), so they are quite relevant to the listserv topic. Sandy Podulka At 12:10 PM 1/7/2013, you wrote: I totally agree with Linda that the Cayuga Birds List Serve is not the arena for debates. I thought this site was for bird observations. Dick Clements From: Linda Orkinmailto:wingmagi...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, January 07, 2013 11:43 AM To: Meena Haribalmailto:m...@cornell.edu Cc: CAYUGABIRDS-Lmailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake Hey All, I would just like to reiterate that I think this subject is very worthy of further discussion with knowledgeable people engaged in the pros and cons of establishing some gun free zones around the lake shore. I do not consider myself to be that knowledgeable person but I see from what has already been offered here that there are many of you out there. The listserv will probably not be the best arena for this, as is already apparent. Passions can run high on a subject like this. As passions can escalate quickly on almost any conservation issue, land use issue, pet freedom issue etc. Can some of us take steps to begin a face to face conversation and see where this might take us? I am not sure if the Conservation Action Committee of the Cayuga Bird Club would be a willing facilitator but I think that might offer at least a venue. Perhaps interested people can communicate privately about next steps? Thanks. Linda Orkin Cayuga Bird Club On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Meena Haribal m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote: Hi all, First of all, after reading John?s post, when I suggested that CBC should do something about hunting was not to stop hunting, but to designate some locations on the lake to be free from being hunting locations, so both birders and birds can enjoy some peace. Why is it wrong if birders feel that they love to have some locations free of hunters and hunting? Don?t we think we also have same right as hunters who think they would love to hunt in all areas? So come to a compromise! So what is wrong in making some good locations on Cayuga Lake bird and birder friendly? Hunters can share some locations with us for our pleasure! I think number of birders and hunters around Cayuga lake must be very similar if not higher for birders. I think sport hunting is the one which bothers me, if you are hunting for food then it is ok with me, but just for the pleasure of killing something that definitely annoys me. If you are thinking of sports of hunting flying objects, have some artificial targets or may be try some falling leaves or some other similar targets. Sorry for bursting out like this, instead of working on the proposal!
[PMX:#] Re: [cayugabirds-l] Birders Hunters on Cayuga Lake
I haven't read all of the posts on this issue, and perhaps what I am about to say has already been said, but here goes. Hunters and especially those who hunt waterfowl contribute a tremendous amount of their own money and time to the preservation of waterfowl, habitat and wildlife in general. Can we as birders say the same. Sure some of us put in some of our time, but how many do or are willing to spend a lot of our own money towards that end. I am not talking about a few bucks here and there. In new York State alone over 1.5 million hunters who regularly contribute over $745.2 million dollars a year on licenses and stamps. If you add up all of the funds involved with hunting, fishing and trapping, the total sports contribution is well over $3.7 billion dollars. Ask your self, have we even come close to that both in terms of numbers of participants, let alone that much money? If I were a hunter, I'm not, but if I were I would ask you to put your money where your mouth is. It's a nice sentiment we seem to have, but how much do we really contribute? Shire we count birds every year, and this is good for knowing how our habitat is going, but again how much do we really contribute. I know I don't contribute very much either scientifically or monetarily. So given where the money for conservation comes from do we really have the right to criticize or ban others from what they are contributing a whole lot more than we are? Plus we actually benefit from what they do. Do you really think we would even have so much to watch if not for those we would oppose? Now getting off my soapbox. Carl Steckler For those who fought for it, freedom has a flavor the protected will never know Unknown Marine Khe Sahn, Vietnam -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Fwd: (Long comment) Exempt part of Cayuga Lake from hunting diving ducks
Hi all, Not to belabor these points, but I posed the specific question to Mike Burger of Audubon NY and he spoke with Bryan Swift, NY DEC's top waterfowl management guy -- below is Mike's response. A bit technical, but very informative. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu Begin forwarded message: From: Mike Burger mbur...@cornell.edumailto:mbur...@cornell.edu Date: January 7, 2013 12:48:10 PM EST To: Kenneth Victor Rosenberg k...@cornell.edumailto:k...@cornell.edu Subject: RE: (Long comment) Exempt part of Cayuga Lake from hunting diving ducks Ken, I don’t have time to get into this issue in a thorough way, but I’ll share my initial reactions on the question of whether or not this is a conservation issue. It would be difficult to make the case for a biological need to ban duck hunting from any portion of Cayuga Lake. The evidence suggests this is not a conservation issue. Waterfowl management is far more complex than John Confer’s message below suggests. In fact, it’s wrong to assert that hunting regulates duck populations. From what I have heard from Bryan Swift, DEC’s rep on the flyway council technical section, which sets the waterfowl seasons, hunting is sometimes an additive mortality factor and sometimes not. For species whose populations we want to increase (per the North American Waterfowl Management Plan), the objective in setting hunting seasons and bag limits is generally to keep the mortality from hunting below the level at which it becomes additive. (It has been difficult to increase mortality from hunting of Snow Geese up to the point where it is additive.) The availability of wetland breeding habitat (primarily in the prairie pothole region for many species) is a hugely important factor in the demographic models used to set hunting seasons. Reproduction is highly influenced by the number and size of wetlands, which is driven primarily by precipitation and farming practices (which are addressed by Farm Bill programs). In general, breeding habitat is the limiting factor; only so many ducks will get to reproduce. Keeping hunting mortality in the compensatory range helps keep the populations such that they can make use of any available habitat. Banding studies indicate that overall hunter harvest rates on diving ducks are very low, probably on the order of 5-10%, and not likely to be adversely affecting any populations. The USFWS does spend a lot of money flying breeding (to survey wetlands as well as ducks) and wintering areas, surveying hunters, banding ducks, etc. to feed their models, but even so, there are limits to what can be concluded about impacts of weather, predation, hunting, and other factors, especially at the local level. Ducks are managed at the flyway and continental level, and hunting seasons and bag limits are coordinated among countries and states. Determining impacts of local hunting activities on continental populations would be difficult, and it’s probably not necessary as long as big-picture populations are faring well. It would be even more difficult to determine impacts of local hunting on local wintering populations because the birds are so mobile and may shift wintering areas from one year to the next depending on weather conditions and other factors. The “hunting season” variables that are manipulated are the number of days when hunting is allowed, when those days occur on the calendar, and how many of each species are allowed to be taken each day and possessed at any one time, but these variables have multiple and interacting effects on the populations. Related to these variables are several impacts other than direct, legal take, including crippling, poaching, and even disturbance - and all of these impacts essentially are factored into the models. That is, the length and timing of hunting seasons brings into the models the related effects of non-lethal impacts such as disturbance, and those are taken into consideration when setting the seasons. If I follow the biological component of the argument that has been presented, it is that large proportions of diving duck populations use the Finger Lakes in the winter and disturbing those birds from their preferred habitat during the hunting season must be detrimental to their survival and therefore to their populations. But, because the length and timing of the hunting season is selected on the basis that the models indicate the overall impact will not result in additive mortality for the populations, and the populations continue to increase (e.g., Redheads), that seems to suggest that the argument is wrong. I fully understand that this issue has complex societal aspects as well and personally I support those who are calling for tolerance and accommodation, but I thought it would be helpful to address the biological aspects in
[cayugabirds-l] E. Bluebirds
Meanwhile, I would like to report 5 E. Bluebirds that arrived briefly to eat a few red seeds from the euonymus next to the niger feeders. Bill McAneny, TBURG -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] N Shrike at Lab of O Woods feeders
Yes, back to the birds (sorry for perpetuating a thread folks were tired of... but correct information is our most powerful tool) Yet another NORTHERN SHRIKE appeared briefly at the Lab of Ornithology's north feeders just before noon today -- possibly nabbing a bird and disappearing into a dense conifer, and then chasing a flock of finches over the Lab building to the south. Also a few PINE SISKINS and at least 1 COMMON REDPOLL in the area -- probably more at the Lab's main feeder garden out front. KEN Ken Rosenberg Conservation Science Program Cornell Lab of Ornithology 607-254-2412 607-342-4594 (cell) k...@cornell.edu -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] 4 Pipits at Myers
4 Pipits at Myers From the semi-opposable thumbs of SB Krasnoff -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Syracuse RBA
RBA * New York * Syracuse * January 07, 2013 * NYSY 01. 07. 13 Hotline: Syracuse Rare bird Alert Dates(s): December 31, 2012 - January 07, 2013 to report by e-mail: brinjoseph AT yahoo.com covering upstate NY counties: Cayuga, Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge and Montezuma Wetlands Complex (MWC) (just outside Cayuga County), Onondaga, Oswego, Lewis, Jefferson, Oneida, Herkimer, Madison Cortland compiled:January 07 AT 6:00 p.m. (EST) compiler: Joseph Brin Onondaga Audubon Homepage: www.onondagaaudubon.org #336 -Monday January 07, 2013 Greetings. This is the Syracuse Area Rare Bird Alert for the week of December 31 , 2012 Highlights: --- TRUMPETER SWAN TUNDRA SWAN RED-SHOULDERED HAWK GOLDEN EAGLE MERLIN PEREGRINE FALCON BLACK-CROWNED NIGHT-HERON ICELAND GULL GLAUCOUS GULL LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULL RED-HEADED WOODPECKER EASTERN PHOEBE NORTHERN SHRIKE TOWNSEND’S SOLITAIRE BOHEMIAN WAXWING EASTERN TOWHEE LAPLAND LONGSPUR EASTERN TOWHEE RUSTY BLACKBIRD EVENING GROSBEAK PINE GROSBEAK Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge (MNWR) and Montezuma Wetlands Complex (MWC) No reports this week. Madison County 12/31: 12 EVENING GROSBEAKS were seen on Dr. Coon Lane in Deruyter. They were seen again the next day. 1/1: 3 RUSTY BLACKBIRDS were seen on Delphi Road south of Cazenovia. 1/2: 3 LAPLAND LONGSPURS, 80 SNOW BUNTINGS, 2 RUSTY BLACKBIRDS and 1 RED-WINGED BLACKBIRD were seen on Bruce Road in the Town of Lincoln. I ICELAND GULL was seen at the Madison County landfill on Buyea Road. 1/3: 2 RUSTY BLACKBIRDS and a MERLIN were seen at the Bruce Road location. 1/5: 400 SNOW BUNTINGS, 22 HORNED LARKS and 2 LAPLAND LONGSPURS were seen on Strain Road in the Town of Stockbridge. Oswego County 12/31: An EASTERN PHOEBE was seen on Lakeshore Road south of Fulton. 1/1: 2 LAPLAND LONGSPURS were seen on Rainbow Shores Road. An ICELAND GULL was seen from Derby Hill. A NORTHERN SHRIKE was seen on Sherman Road. 1/3: PINE GROSBEAKS and EVENING GROSBEAKS were seen on North Church Road in Boylston. 1/4: An adult LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULL was seen in Fulton. 3 ICELAND and 1 GLAUCOUS GULLS were seen in Phoenix. 1/5: 9 BOHEMIAN WAXWINGS were seen on Tryon Road. A LAPLAND LONGSPUR was seen at Wright’s Landing at the Oswego Harbor. Onondaga County 1/2: An adult RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was again found on East Sorrell Hill Road south of Conners Road south of Baldwinsville. 1/4: 54 TUNDRA SWANS were seen flying over Skaneateles Lake. A RED-SHOULDERED HAWK was seen on the Erie Canal Trail between MacDonald and Laird Roads in the Town of Peru. 1/5: 5 TRUMPETER SWANS and 3 FISH CROWS were seen at the Marina on Onondaga Lake in Liverpool. 2 LAPLAND LONGSPURS were seen on Chatfield Road south of Elbridge. Also in Elbridge an EASTERN TOWHEE has been frequenting feeders on Sunview Road. The RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was again seen on East Sorrell Hill Road in Baldwinsville. A GRAY CATBIRD was seen on Andrews Road in Dewitt. 1/6: 1 adult and 3 immature continue on the Creekwalk between Bear Street and Hiawatha Boulevard on Onondaga Creek near Carousel Center. 6 TUNDRA SWANS were seen at the Marina in Liverpool. 1/7: The RED-HEADED WOODPECKER was again seen on East Sorrell Hill Road south of Baldwinsville. Also found at a feeder there was an immature WHITE-CROWNED SPARROW. A pair of PEREGRINE FALCONS were spotted in downtown Syracuse. Oneida County 1/5: A NORTHERN SHRIKE and a PEREGRINE FALCON were seen on Jug Point Road east on Sylvan Beach. Cortland County 1/5: A GOLDEN EAGLE was found on West Bennett Hollow Road in the Town of Preble. Extralimital The TOWNSEND’S SOLITAIRE was positively reported twice this week at Sampson State Park on the east side of Seneca Lake in Seneca County. It is being seen in the same spot near the green gate at the north end of East Lake Road. -- end report Joseph Brin Region 5 Baldwinsville, -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] merlin Pinckney Rd./Fall Ccreek
Nearly hit a merlin as it dove across Pinckney Road [on the bridge] in pursuit of a sparrow this afternoon. -Colleen Richards Woman is 53 But Looks 25 Mom reveals 1 simple wrinkle trick that has angered doctors... http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/50eb87bf960617bf1be2st01duc -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsWELCOME http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsRULES http://www.NortheastBirding.com/CayugabirdsSubscribeConfigurationLeave.htm ARCHIVES: 1) http://www.mail-archive.com/cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu/maillist.html 2) http://www.surfbirds.com/birdingmail/Group/Cayugabirds 3) http://birdingonthe.net/mailinglists/CAYU.html Please submit your observations to eBird: http://ebird.org/content/ebird/ --
[cayugabirds-l] Stewart Park
Today during taxi breaks I managed to visit Stewart Park East Shore Park several times. I missed the Peregrine. Early in the morning there was a GREAT BLUE HERON in the bit of stream which flows through the lagoon, but it flushed when I stopped to look at it, which surprised me. An adult LESSER BLACK-BACKED GULL swam with other gulls not far off the lakeshore ice early in the morning but was not relocated by me on later visits. West of the red lighthouse jetty I saw 2 DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANTS perched on branches of logs in the water. From East Shore Park I saw 4 COMMON LOONS and one HORNED GREBE. The latter was visible also from Stewart Park, as was a RED-NECKED GREBE. Last sighting of note was GARY KOHLENBERG - I hope you had more luck with gulls!--Dave NutterOn Jan 07, 2013, at 01:02 PM, Anne Marie Johnson a...@cornell.edu wrote:I made a very quick scan of Stewart Park at 12:30 today. I didn’t find anything notable except for a PEREGRINE FALCON perched on the ice edge roughly straight out from the dock. Other birds observed included HOODED MERGANSER, COMMON MERGANSER, MALLARDS, BLACK DUCK, CORMORANT, and COOTS, in addition to the usual gull species and geese.Anne Marie Johnson -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
[cayugabirds-l] 2013 basin first records list
The 2013 Cayuga Lake Basin First Records List is now underway and (I think) up to date. View it on the Cayuga Bird Club website under Resources here:http://www.cayugabirdclub.org/Resources/cayuga-lake-basin-first-recordsPlease let me know of errors or omissions.--Dave Nutter -- Cayugabirds-L List Info: Welcome and Basics Rules and Information Subscribe, Configuration and Leave Archives: The Mail Archive Surfbirds BirdingOnThe.Net Please submit your observations to eBird! --
