[cayugabirds-l] Danby Marsh Wrens, Marsh Hawks, Pied-billed Grebes, Acadian Flycatcher

[Geo Kloppel]

I paddled around Danby’s Michigan Hollow Marsh (not North Spencer Marsh) this 
morning from about 5:00 until 8:00. Enjoyed multiple Marsh Wrens, including a 
pair in a spot that has been occupied for several weeks now. Then I found an 
obviously paired Pied-billed Grebe twosome, who quietly retreated into the 
cattails, a likely looking nest site. Mallards and Wood Ducks were leading 
ducklings around. And a pair of Northern Harriers (“Marsh Hawks” to us old 
timers) were hunting over the sedge meadows, and being harassed by  Red-winged 
Blackbirds. Believe they’re nesting there again this year.

About 8:30 I drove down the Hollow to find Acadian Flycatcher singing in the 
same spot as I reported on 5/17.

-Geo



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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

[Terry P. Mingle]

That’s funny….they don’t seem to have any reviews on Facebook.  (Hahaha - 
probably removed them).   
https://www.facebook.com/Ironwood-Heavy-Highway-LLC-294538850881715 


I wonder where else we could review them?

—Terry



> On Jun 9, 2018 , at 10:02 AM, cl...@juno.com wrote:
> 
> Someone else to contact: 
> https://www.ironwoodheavyhighway.com/services/vegetation-management-land-clearing
>  
> 
> 
> 
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Terry P. Mingle" 
> To: Karen Edelstein 
> Cc: Carol Schmitt , , Read Marie 
> , , Evans Bill 
> , , 
> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2018 09:28:12 -0400
> 
> They were doing this in my neighborhood in Cortland as well. The trees that 
> they trim look absolutely horrible, and many of them die off in a few years. 
> These people are hacks, pure and simple. My father used to prune our trees 
> (he was a great gardener) and he always took great care to still make the 
> trees and bushes look nice when he was finished. Not these people, they just 
> hack through. Looks more like branches were twisted off or ripped in some 
> places when they get done. It’s sad that they are so careless and (worse) 
> so desensitized to people’s feelings about things on their property (some 
> sentimental) that have been there for years. I understand that they need to 
> protect their investments as well, but the people that come to do it are 
> sometimes not very nice. I once said something about checking for baby birds 
> or other animals, and they were pretty much like….�oh 
> well�……�hazards of the job�……..so rude.  Not happy.   :-(
> 
>  
> —Terry
>  
> ===
> 
> On Jun 8, 2018 , at 11:10 PM, Karen Edelstein  > wrote:
> 
> Wow. I'm so sorry that happened to you. What a shoddy way of doing business. 
> It's not like they can replace the time it took to put that garden into 
> place. ..
> 
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 7:24 PM Carol Schmitt  > wrote:
> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely clear-cut early this winter.  
> Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples with a likely 
> mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were sliced off at the 
> ground.  My five bird feeders were removed and left on our front steps.  
> Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we opened the cottage for 
> the season.
>   I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the 
> damage.  He said that although the decorative trees in question were 
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes 
> happen� and “our guys are only human�.  He said I can try to file a 
> claim through their website.
>I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this, 
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.  Having found that simple branch 
> trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely remove any trees 
> they deem a possible future problem under any of their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif mailto:mna...@live.com>>
> To: Marie P. Read mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>; Karen L 
> Edelstein mailto:k...@cornell.edu>>; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
> Cc: Bill Evans  >; Donna Lee Scott  >; Candace Cornell  >
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> 
> Marie, Thank you.
>  
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a 
> note, here is their “contact us by email� page: 
> https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html 
> 
>  
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us to 
> post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG 
>  which says Binghamton but regardless, it 
> ought to get their attention. (I’ve posted a message there as well).
>  
> --
> muhammad arif
> http://flickr.com/arif-photos 
> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos 
> https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com 
>  
> From: bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu 
>  
>  > on behalf of Marie P. Read 
> mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> To: Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>  
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
> 
> 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

[Terry P. Mingle]

They were doing this in my neighborhood in Cortland as well. The trees that 
they trim look absolutely horrible, and many of them die off in a few years. 
These people are hacks, pure and simple. My father used to prune our trees (he 
was a great gardener) and he always took great care to still make the trees and 
bushes look nice when he was finished. Not these people, they just hack 
through. Looks more like branches were twisted off or ripped in some places 
when they get done. It’s sad that they are so careless and (worse) so 
desensitized to people’s feelings about things on their property (some 
sentimental) that have been there for years. I understand that they need to 
protect their investments as well, but the people that come to do it are 
sometimes not very nice. I once said something about checking for baby birds or 
other animals, and they were pretty much like….”oh well”……”hazards of the 
job”……..so rude.  Not happy.   :-(

—Terry

===

> On Jun 8, 2018 , at 11:10 PM, Karen Edelstein  wrote:
> 
> Wow. I'm so sorry that happened to you. What a shoddy way of doing business. 
> It's not like they can replace the time it took to put that garden into 
> place. ..
> 
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 7:24 PM Carol Schmitt  > wrote:
> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely clear-cut early this winter.  
> Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples with a likely 
> mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were sliced off at the 
> ground.  My five bird feeders were removed and left on our front steps.  
> Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we opened the cottage for 
> the season.
>   I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the 
> damage.  He said that although the decorative trees in question were 
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes happen” and 
> “our guys are only human”.  He said I can try to file a claim through their 
> website.
>I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this, 
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.  Having found that simple branch 
> trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely remove any trees 
> they deem a possible future problem under any of their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif mailto:mna...@live.com>>
> To: Marie P. Read mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>; Karen L 
> Edelstein mailto:k...@cornell.edu>>; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> mailto:cayugabird...@list.cornell.edu>>
> Cc: Bill Evans  >; Donna Lee Scott  >; Candace Cornell  >
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> 
> Marie, Thank you.
>  
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a 
> note, here is their “contact us by email” page: 
> https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html 
> 
>  
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us to 
> post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG 
>  which says Binghamton but regardless, it 
> ought to get their attention. (I’ve posted a message there as well).
>  
> --
> muhammad arif
> http://flickr.com/arif-photos 
> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos 
> https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com 
>  
> From: bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu 
>  
>  > on behalf of Marie P. Read 
> mailto:m...@cornell.edu>>
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> To: Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>  
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
> 
> "I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush hogging 
> under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to stress that 
> this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are numerous birds 
> nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts will be destroyed 
> when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this time of year, this 
> removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary. Please wait until autumn 
> when the birds have finished nesting and are leaving the area for the winter. 
> Thanks!"
> 
> Marie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
> Freeville NY  13068 USA
> 
> Phone  607-539-6608
> e-mail   m...@cornell.edu 
> 
> Website: http://www.marieread.com 
> Follow me on Facebook:  
> https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/ 
> 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

[Asher Hockett]

NYSEG let us know last year they were going to "trim" roadside trees in our
neighborhood, and would talk to us when they came. They subcontract this
work, and the workers didn't talk to us, and the essentially pillaged the
entire length of South Danby Rd. I contacted them and insisted that they
return and buck up the long pieces into usable firewood sized length. They
did, but only very close to the house. The rest of the road looks like a
twister went through. A very pretty road when we moved here is now quite
ugly, IMO.

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:28 PM, Alicia  wrote:

> We pretty much live in the woods but have planted a lot of bird-attracting
> perennials in the opening around our house, which also hosts NYSEG lines.
> Years ago NYSEG left a card on our door saying that they would be 'tree
> trimming' soon and to contact them if we wanted to be notified of the date
> so we could be present.  I did that - I think I spoke with someone who
> identified himself as the NYSEG forester? - and he said they would be in
> touch before they came.  He also reminded me that within the utility right
> of way that they own, they have a right to remove anything growing there
> that they deem a potential danger to the lines.  They actually have not
> cleared the lines here since they left that card, but we hope they would
> follow through and contact us as promised. It has been a lot more than 5
> yrs since then ...
>
> Alicia
>
>
> On 6/8/2018 7:24 PM, Carol Schmitt wrote:
>
> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely *clear-cut* early this
> winter.  Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples
> with a likely mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were sliced
> off at the ground.  My five bird feeders were removed and left on our
> front steps.  Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we opened
> the cottage for the season.
>   I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the
> damage.  He said that although the decorative trees in question were
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes happen” and
> “our guys are only human”.  He said I can try to file a claim through
> their website.
>I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this,
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.  Having found that simple branch
> trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely remove any
> trees they deem a possible future problem under any of their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif  
> To: Marie P. Read  ; Karen L
> Edelstein  ; CAYUGABIRDS-L
>  
> Cc: Bill Evans  ;
> Donna Lee Scott  ; Candace Cornell
>  
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>
> Marie, Thank you.
>
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a
> note, here is their “contact us by email” page: https://www.nyseg.com/
> WritetoNYSEG.html
>
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us
> to post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/
> NYSEandG which says Binghamton but regardless, it ought to get their
> attention. (I’ve posted a message there as well).
>
> --
> muhammad arif
> http://flickr.com/arif-photos
> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos
> https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com
>
> --
> *From:* bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu  77717...@list.cornell.edu> on behalf of Marie P. Read 
> *Sent:* Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> *To:* Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> *Cc:* Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> *Subject:* RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
>
> "I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush
> hogging under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to
> stress that this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are
> numerous birds nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts
> will be destroyed when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this
> time of year, this removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary.
> Please wait until autumn when the birds have finished nesting and are
> leaving the area for the winter. Thanks!"
>
> Marie
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
> 
> Freeville NY  13068 USA
>
> Phone  607-539-6608
> e-mail   m...@cornell.edu
>
> Website: http://www.marieread.com
> Follow me on Facebook:  https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-
> Photography-104356136271727/
> 
> From: bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu [bounce-122625773-5851667@
> list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Karen Edelstein [k...@cornell.edu]
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L

Re: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines

[Glenn Wilson]

We have the same problem with both buried gas line and overhead power lines. 
They bull dozed a 40 foot wide path through hundreds of feet of our land and 
left it so bumpy I can’t drive it. The only positive is we now have Field 
Sparrows. 

I HATE NYSE

Glenn Wilson
Endicott, NY
www.WilsonsWarbler.com

On Jun 8, 2018, at 11:10 PM, Karen Edelstein  wrote:

Wow. I'm so sorry that happened to you. What a shoddy way of doing business. 
It's not like they can replace the time it took to put that garden into place. 
..

> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 7:24 PM Carol Schmitt  wrote:
> Our summer garden at our cottage was completely clear-cut early this winter.  
> Low-growth lilacs, honeysuckle, witch hazel, Japanese maples with a likely 
> mature height of 12’, and other very small trees were sliced off at the 
> ground.  My five bird feeders were removed and left on our front steps.  
> Mean-spirited and heart-breaking to discover when we opened the cottage for 
> the season.
>   I made an appointment for the Auburn NYSEG forester to come look at the 
> damage.  He said that although the decorative trees in question were 
> considered ‘low-growth compatible’ and not a problem, “mistakes happen” and 
> “our guys are only human”.  He said I can try to file a claim through their 
> website.
>I was told that they now have a 5-year program to continue doing this, 
> contracting with Ironwood Heavy Highway.  Having found that simple branch 
> trimming was not effective, NYSEG now will simply completely remove any trees 
> they deem a possible future problem under any of their power lines.
> Carol Schmitt
> -Original Message-
> From: Muhammad Arif 
> To: Marie P. Read ; Karen L Edelstein ; 
> CAYUGABIRDS-L 
> Cc: Bill Evans ; Donna Lee Scott 
> ; Candace Cornell 
> Sent: Fri, Jun 8, 2018 11:33 am
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> 
> Marie, Thank you.
>  
> I also just sent them an email. If anyone else would like to send NYSEG a 
> note, here is their “contact us by email” page: 
> https://www.nyseg.com/WritetoNYSEG.html
>  
> They also have a Facebook page and it might be worthwhile for some of us to 
> post messages there. I found this page: https://www.facebook.com/NYSEandG 
> which says Binghamton but regardless, it ought to get their attention. (I’ve 
> posted a message there as well).
>  
> --
> muhammad arif
> http://flickr.com/arif-photos
> http://facebook.com/mnarifphotos
> https://mainetomiami.wordpress.com
>  
> From: bounce-122625976-77717...@list.cornell.edu 
>  on behalf of Marie P. Read 
> 
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 10:19:38 AM
> To: Karen L Edelstein; CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
>  
> I just sent NYSEG the following email:
> 
> "I am hearing from others in Tompkins County that clear cutting/brush hogging 
> under powerlines is currently being done in the area. I want to stress that 
> this is entirely the WRONG time of year to do this! There are numerous birds 
> nesting in the utility access areas whose breeding efforts will be destroyed 
> when vegetation is removed. Have a heart PLEASE. At this time of year, this 
> removing vegetative cover is cruel and unnecessary. Please wait until autumn 
> when the birds have finished nesting and are leaving the area for the winter. 
> Thanks!"
> 
> Marie
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Marie Read Wildlife Photography
> 452 Ringwood Road
> Freeville NY  13068 USA
> 
> Phone  607-539-6608
> e-mail   m...@cornell.edu
> 
> Website: http://www.marieread.com
> Follow me on Facebook:  
> https://www.facebook.com/Marie-Read-Wildlife-Photography-104356136271727/
> 
> From: bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-122625773-5851...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Karen Edelstein 
> [k...@cornell.edu]
> Sent: Friday, June 8, 2018 9:28 AM
> To: CAYUGABIRDS-L
> Cc: Paul Paradine; Bill Evans; Donna Lee Scott; Candace Cornell
> Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Clear cutting under powerlines
> 
> I was dismayed to see that NYSEG has been clearcutting/brush-hogging 
> vegetation down to bare ground under the powerlines on Salmon Creek Rd. With 
> the nesting season still well in process, I'm very concerned about the 
> probable mortality of birds that has resulted in this area of (formerly) 
> dense growth.
> 
> While I do not know whether this vegetation removal is happening elsewhere in 
> the county, I would like to see if we can prevail on NYSEG to delay cutting 
> at least until later in the summer.
> 
> Your thoughts?
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