RE: [cayugabirds-l] Native plant habitat flash mob

[Magnus Fiskesjo]

I can go, too. Is it where you put the Protonothary boxes?? 

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Subject: [cayugabirds-l] Native plant habitat flash mob

Hi All,

We still have potted plants to put in the ground down at Lighthouse Point 
Woods.  I will be heading down there around noon today for more work.  Sending 
this spur-of-the-moment message out to try to get a habitat flash mob to come 
help out.

Text me at the number below if you need directions.

Jody Enck


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[cayugabirds-l] Native plant habitat flash mob

[Jody Enck]

Hi All,

We still have potted plants to put in the ground down at Lighthouse Point
Woods.  I will be heading down there around noon today for more work.
Sending this spur-of-the-moment message out to try to get a habitat flash
mob to come help out.

Text me at the number below if you need directions.

Jody Enck


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Conservation Social Scientist, and
Founder of the Sister Bird Club Network
607-379-5940

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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Deb Grantham]

As this article says, it's a survival food -- poor people learned to eat it and 
like it. Lots of good food and cooking originates that way.

Deb


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To: Stanley Scharf ; Regi Teasley 

Cc: darlingtonbets ; Maryfaith Miller 
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Subject: RE: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)


Looking up a picture of American pokeweed, I am surprised to see on Wikipedia 
it is the same as poke sallet, a k a poke salad, which is a food, that has even 
been described as a "Long-Standing Staple" food for humans, esp. in the US 
South, https://www.saveur.com/poke-sallet
... and Tony Joe White's song “Polk Salad Annie,” covered by Elvis, turns on 
the gathering, cooking, eating, and sucking on leftovers, of this same "poke 
salad." (The song seems to suggest it grows in places where alligators thrive). 

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Magnus Fiskesjö, PhD
Associate Professor, Department of Anthropology, Cornell University McGraw 
Hall, Room 201. Ithaca, NY 14853, USA
E-mail: magnus.fiske...@cornell.edu, or: n...@cornell.edu

Affiliations at Cornell University, WWW:
Anthropology Department, anthropology.cornell.edu/faculty/ Southeast Asia 
Program (SEAP), seap.einaudi.cornell.edu/faculty_directory
East Asia Program (EAP), eap.einaudi.cornell.edu/faculty_directory
CIAMS (Archaeology), ciams.cornell.edu/people/ Cornell Institute for Public 
Affairs (CIPA), cipa.cornell.edu/academics/fieldfaculty.cfm

From: bounce-124056725-84019...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-124056725-84019...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Stanley Scharf 
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Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:09 AM
To: Regi Teasley
Cc: darlingtonbets; Maryfaith Miller; anneb.cl...@gmail.com; 
bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

The most notable act occurred in Burlington, New Jersey, at the 1738 
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of Quakers. Dressed as a soldier, he concluded a 
diatribe against slavery, quoting the Bible saying that all men should be equal 
under God, by plunging a sword into a Bible containing a bladder of blood-red  
'Pokeberry juice', which spattered over those nearby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay


On 10/26/19, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> Thank you for this information.
>
> Regi
>
>
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
> Henry David Thoreau
>
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:53 PM, darlingtonbets 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John 
>> Kingsbury, about pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from 
>> Cornell and was lecturer in phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. 
>> College. And author of "Deadly Harvest," an excellent book on poisonous 
>> plants.
>>
>> He told me that a group of medical researchers who were studying 
>> pokeweed, and handling the plant, all developed leukemia-like 
>> symptoms. (I don't know what happened after that. Did they recover, 
>> once they stopped handling it?)
>>
>> He recommended wearing gloves, if handling the plant. I think he said 
>> that the berries were the least toxic part of the plant.
>>
>> Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean it 
>> should be destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, 
>> handling or eating it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are 
>> fine for birds and other animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, 
>> interesting plant. Just don't eat it or handle it without gloves.
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Maryfaith Miller 
>> Date: 10/26/19 12:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: anneb.cl...@gmail.com
>> Cc: Regi Teasley , 
>> bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)
>>
>> I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye 
>> wool an intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, 
>> harvested, crushed, boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full 
>> of wool roving and pokeweed berries. My students love knowing which 
>> plants are deadly poisonous. I have taught them a lot about 
>> mushrooms, and all of them can identify a destroying angel, jack 
>> o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and children love having this 
>> knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed plants are at Lime Hollow and 
>> love to inform people about them.
>>
>>  But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird 
>> behavior...I'd love to hear about the OP's question re American Robin 
>> aggression if anyone knows more about that.
>> Maryfaith Decker Miller
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:
>>> And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We 
>>> didn’t use 3 waters either, 

RE: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Deb Grantham]

Fascinating!


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 On Behalf Of Stanley Scharf
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:09 AM
To: Regi Teasley 
Cc: darlingtonbets ; Maryfaith Miller 
; anneb.cl...@gmail.com; 
bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L 
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

The most notable act occurred in Burlington, New Jersey, at the 1738 
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of Quakers. Dressed as a soldier, he concluded a 
diatribe against slavery, quoting the Bible saying that all men should be equal 
under God, by plunging a sword into a Bible containing a bladder of blood-red  
'Pokeberry juice', which spattered over those nearby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay









On 10/26/19, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> Thank you for this information.
>
> Regi
>
>
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
> Henry David Thoreau
>
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:53 PM, darlingtonbets 
>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John 
>> Kingsbury, about pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from 
>> Cornell and was lecturer in phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. 
>> College. And author of "Deadly Harvest," an excellent book on poisonous 
>> plants.
>>
>> He told me that a group of medical researchers who were studying 
>> pokeweed, and handling the plant, all developed leukemia-like 
>> symptoms. (I don't know what happened after that. Did they recover, 
>> once they stopped handling it?)
>>
>> He recommended wearing gloves, if handling the plant. I think he said 
>> that the berries were the least toxic part of the plant.
>>
>> Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean it 
>> should be destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, 
>> handling or eating it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are 
>> fine for birds and other animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, 
>> interesting plant. Just don't eat it or handle it without gloves.
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Maryfaith Miller 
>> Date: 10/26/19 12:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: anneb.cl...@gmail.com
>> Cc: Regi Teasley , 
>> bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com, CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)
>>
>> I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye 
>> wool an intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, 
>> harvested, crushed, boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full 
>> of wool roving and pokeweed berries. My students love knowing which 
>> plants are deadly poisonous. I have taught them a lot about 
>> mushrooms, and all of them can identify a destroying angel, jack 
>> o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and children love having this 
>> knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed plants are at Lime Hollow and 
>> love to inform people about them.
>>
>>  But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird 
>> behavior...I'd love to hear about the OP's question re American Robin 
>> aggression if anyone knows more about that.
>> Maryfaith Decker Miller
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:
>>> And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We 
>>> didn’t use 3 waters either, although drained it.
>>> But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less panic.
>>> Or try lambs quarters.
>>> Anne
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
>>>
 I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on 
 keeping these plants?

 Regi


 What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
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> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
> This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes 
> foraging on my productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves 
> AND chasing each other hard and long.  More athletic long chases 
> than I am used to associating with robins.
>
> They are not just chasing around the berries although I watched 
> some head lowered face offs ( before a chase) on the fence near pokeweed.
>
> Anne
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RE: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Magnus Fiskesjo]

Looking up a picture of American pokeweed, I am surprised to see on Wikipedia 
it is the same as poke sallet, a k a poke salad, which is a food, that has even 
been described as a "Long-Standing Staple" food for humans, esp. in the US 
South, https://www.saveur.com/poke-sallet
... and Tony Joe White's song “Polk Salad Annie,” covered by Elvis, turns on 
the gathering, cooking, eating, and sucking on leftovers, of this same "poke 
salad." (The song seems to suggest it grows in places where alligators thrive). 

--
Magnus Fiskesjö, PhD
Associate Professor, Department of Anthropology, Cornell University
McGraw Hall, Room 201. Ithaca, NY 14853, USA
E-mail: magnus.fiske...@cornell.edu, or: n...@cornell.edu

Affiliations at Cornell University, WWW:
Anthropology Department, anthropology.cornell.edu/faculty/
Southeast Asia Program (SEAP), seap.einaudi.cornell.edu/faculty_directory
East Asia Program (EAP), eap.einaudi.cornell.edu/faculty_directory
CIAMS (Archaeology), ciams.cornell.edu/people/
Cornell Institute for Public Affairs (CIPA), 
cipa.cornell.edu/academics/fieldfaculty.cfm

From: bounce-124056725-84019...@list.cornell.edu 
[bounce-124056725-84019...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Stanley Scharf 
[stanley.sch...@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, October 27, 2019 9:09 AM
To: Regi Teasley
Cc: darlingtonbets; Maryfaith Miller; anneb.cl...@gmail.com; 
bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com; CAYUGABIRDS-L
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

The most notable act occurred in Burlington, New Jersey, at the 1738
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of Quakers. Dressed as a soldier, he
concluded a diatribe against slavery, quoting the Bible saying that
all men should be equal under God, by plunging a sword into a Bible
containing a bladder of blood-red  'Pokeberry juice', which spattered
over those nearby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay


On 10/26/19, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> Thank you for this information.
>
> Regi
>
>
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
> Henry David Thoreau
>
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:53 PM, darlingtonbets 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John Kingsbury,
>> about pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from Cornell and was
>> lecturer in phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. College. And author of
>> "Deadly Harvest," an excellent book on poisonous plants.
>>
>> He told me that a group of medical researchers who were studying pokeweed,
>> and handling the plant, all developed leukemia-like symptoms. (I don't
>> know what happened after that. Did they recover, once they stopped
>> handling it?)
>>
>> He recommended wearing gloves, if handling the plant. I think he said that
>> the berries were the least toxic part of the plant.
>>
>> Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean it should
>> be destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, handling or
>> eating it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are fine for birds
>> and other animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, interesting plant. Just don't
>> eat it or handle it without gloves.
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Maryfaith Miller 
>> Date: 10/26/19 12:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: anneb.cl...@gmail.com
>> Cc: Regi Teasley , bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com,
>> CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)
>>
>> I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye wool
>> an intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, harvested,
>> crushed, boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full of wool roving
>> and pokeweed berries. My students love knowing which plants are deadly
>> poisonous. I have taught them a lot about mushrooms, and all of them can
>> identify a destroying angel, jack o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and
>> children love having this knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed
>> plants are at Lime Hollow and love to inform people about them.
>>
>>  But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird behavior...I'd
>> love to hear about the OP's question re American Robin aggression if
>> anyone knows more about that.
>> Maryfaith Decker Miller
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:
>>> And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We didn’t
>>> use 3 waters either, although drained it.
>>> But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less panic.
>>> Or try lambs quarters.
>>> Anne
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
>>>
 I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on keeping
 these plants?

 Regi


 What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
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> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
> This morning I 

Re: [cayugabirds-l] American Crows calling after dark

[anneb . clark]

This is pretty weird. If roosting near lights they do talk after dark like a 
slumber party. Like downtown Auburn. But roosts in more natural settings are 
quiet in dark.  I could only locate them with a receiver and  radio tagged 
birds. But they don’t fly in the dark well and I would assume that calling was  
because of something that disturbed them and scared them up from a roost spot. 

Also they aren’t migrating now- at least no evidence but they are moving in 
daylight between foraging areas such as newly turned fields. 

Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:52 PM, David Nicosia  wrote:
> 
> I had a fire in my burn pit this evening well after sunset in the dark. I 
> thought I heard a crow caw in the distance a few times. Then I was certain as 
> the bird came pretty close to my house overhead. There was other american 
> crows cawing at times too for at least an hour or so between 800 and 900 pm 
> well after dark. They were not mobbing anything as they seemed to be flying 
> by singly. I couldn't ascertain direction but could they be migrating at 
> night? I don't believe I have ever heard a crow at night before. anyone ever 
> experience this?
> 
> Dave Nicosia
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)

[Stanley Scharf]

The most notable act occurred in Burlington, New Jersey, at the 1738
Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of Quakers. Dressed as a soldier, he
concluded a diatribe against slavery, quoting the Bible saying that
all men should be equal under God, by plunging a sword into a Bible
containing a bladder of blood-red  'Pokeberry juice', which spattered
over those nearby.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Lay









On 10/26/19, Regi Teasley  wrote:
> Thank you for this information.
>
> Regi
>
>
> What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
> Henry David Thoreau
>
>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 12:53 PM, darlingtonbets 
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> A number of years ago, I asked poisonous plant expert, John Kingsbury,
>> about pokeweed. He's a retired professor of botany from Cornell and was
>> lecturer in phytotoxicology at Cornell's Vet. College. And author of
>> "Deadly Harvest," an excellent book on poisonous plants.
>>
>> He told me that a group of medical researchers who were studying pokeweed,
>> and handling the plant, all developed leukemia-like symptoms. (I don't
>> know what happened after that. Did they recover, once they stopped
>> handling it?)
>>
>> He recommended wearing gloves, if handling the plant. I think he said that
>> the berries were the least toxic part of the plant.
>>
>> Just because a plant is toxic to humans, of course, doesn't mean it should
>> be destroyed, just that people should be cautious in using, handling or
>> eating it.  And many plants that are toxic to humans are fine for birds
>> and other animals.  Pokeweed is a beautiful, interesting plant. Just don't
>> eat it or handle it without gloves.
>> Betsy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
>>
>>  Original message 
>> From: Maryfaith Miller 
>> Date: 10/26/19 12:08 PM (GMT-05:00)
>> To: anneb.cl...@gmail.com
>> Cc: Regi Teasley , bluewing-gr...@googlegroups.com,
>> CAYUGABIRDS-L 
>> Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] Angry birds (Am robins!)
>>
>> I have used pokeweed berries in my forest kindergarten class to dye wool
>> an intensely beautiful shade of purple. 5-6-7 year olds, harvested,
>> crushed, boiled over a campfire and stirred the pot full of wool roving
>> and pokeweed berries. My students love knowing which plants are deadly
>> poisonous. I have taught them a lot about mushrooms, and all of them can
>> identify a destroying angel, jack o'lanterns, etc. Knowledge is power, and
>> children love having this knowledge. They know where all the pokeweed
>> plants are at Lime Hollow and love to inform people about them.
>>
>>  But this is a bird list, and the question is about bird behavior...I'd
>> love to hear about the OP's question re American Robin aggression if
>> anyone knows more about that.
>> Maryfaith Decker Miller
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 26, 2019 at 11:38 AM  wrote:
>>> And I am living proof that eating young pokeweed is not deadly. We didn’t
>>> use 3 waters either, although drained it.
>>> But I am NOT suggesting everyone try it. Young spinach causes less panic.
>>> Or try lambs quarters.
>>> Anne
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:56 AM, Regi Teasley  wrote:
>>>
 I understand Pokeweed is poisonous to humans.  Your thoughts on keeping
 these plants?

 Regi


 What good is a house if you don’t have a tolerable planet to put it in?
 Henry David Thoreau

> On Oct 26, 2019, at 9:01 AM, anneb.cl...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> 
> This morning I have a large number of robins all age/sexes foraging on
> my productive pokeweed berries and scratching leaves AND chasing each
> other hard and long.  More athletic long chases than I am used to
> associating with robins.
>
> They are not just chasing around the berries although I watched some
> head lowered face offs ( before a chase) on the fence near pokeweed.
>
> Anne
> Sent from my iPhone
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