[cayugabirds-l] OOB Acadian Flycatcher in Caroline

[Sandy Podulka]

There was an Acadian Flycatcher singing just a bit out of the Cayuga 
Lake Basin near the Finger Lakes Trail west of Coddington Road this 
morning.  To hear it, follow FLT west of Coddington (park in 
designated lot on Ridgeway, not Coddington). Stay on FLT, which is 
through private land. The FLT is the left fork, which heads uphill on 
a logging road. Maybe 50-100' beyond the fork, you can hear the bird 
to the north (on your right). I was looking for Magnolia Warblers (no 
luck), but this was a nice surprise!


Poor photos and recording here:
https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S89697562

Sandy Podulka


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Changing bird names/Armitage Rd this morning

[Alicia]

I'm not familiar with specific proposals by the AOS, but two 
ornithologists wrote an op ed in the Washington Post 

 
a few days ago that seems to call for the elimination of all eponymous 
bird names.  They give as examples Bachman’s sparrow, Townsend’s 
warbler, Bendire’s thrasher, Hammond’s flycatcher, and McCown’s 
longspur.  I'm not sure I followed the logic for eliminating all the 
others since only some of the names seem to have objectionable roots, 
but the authors seem to be saying more broadly that eponymous names 
reflect colonialism, racism, and inequality and should be eliminated.  
Their website, which includes a table of the names they have identified, 
and by & for whom each bird was named, is here 
.

Alexander Wilson bought a farm in Ovid & the possibility that Wilson's 
Warblers seen now might be direct descendants of ones he spotted has 
always tickled me.  I don't pretend to understand all the arguments but 
given that these ornithologists (at least so far) have not listed 
anything objectionable about Wilson, I'm not sure why that name would 
need to be abandoned.  Or maybe they are suggesting only names they have 
identified as problematic need to go?  The language they use is more 
sweeping, however - I'm not entirely sure of the scope of their proposal.

Not taking sides here, just trying to clarify the facts.

And a bird report: Armitage Road was reasonably birdy this morning with 
both the Mourning Warbler and the Prothonotary Warbler singing 
continually and relatively easy to spot. Cerulean warblers and a 
Northern Waterthrush were singing less consistently and invisibly since 
they were further from the road.  Also several Redstarts and Yellow 
Warblers, plus a surprise Hooded Warbler, singing well east of the 
bridge on the south side of the road.  Non-warblers included 
persistently singing Yellow-Throated Vireo, Wood Thrushes & Veeries, and 
a Black-Billed Cuckoo.  Thank you Dave Kennedy for the careful 
description of the spot favored by the Mourning Warber, and suggesting 
there might be a Hooded!

Alicia

P.S. The Pileated Woodpeckers that had been in the nest just west of the 
bridge have fledged and were not hanging around the nest tree while I 
was there.



On 6/5/2021 5:37 PM, Robin Cisne wrote:
> What names are you referring to?  It's my understanding that what we 
> used to call an Oldsquaw is now properly called a Long-Tailed Duck.  
> Are there other birds whose names are being changed?  The quotation 
> below is from Wikipedia, but similar commentaries are found in other 
> references:
>
> "The English word /*squaw*/ is an ethnic and sexual slur 
> ,^[1] 
>  ^[2] 
>  ^[3] 
>  historically 
> used for Indigenous North American 
>  
> women.^[4]  
> Contemporary use of the term, especially by non-Natives, is considered 
> offensive, derogatory 
> , 
> misogynist  and racist 
> .^[1] 
>  ^[2] 
>  ^[3] 
>  ^[4] 
>  ^[5] 
>  ^[6] 
> 
>
> The word is not used among Native American 
> , 
> First Nations , Inuit 
> , or Métis 
>  peoples."
>
>
> Surely ornithologists and amateur birders alike don't wish to 
> perpetuate ignorant and disparaging slurs.
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 5:26 PM Carl Steckler  > wrote:
>
> First it was statues, then military bases.
> Now the target of the woke crowd are birds.
> The American Ornithological Society is thinking about changing the
> names of some birds because they have a past that some call racist.
>
> Common people there is no room for political correctness in bird
> watching,
>
> Or did I just miss the memo?
>
> Please don’t let this hysteria ruin our hobby.
>
> There may be scientific reasons to change the name but unit for
> political reasons.
>
> Birding is and should be open and available to every person, period.
>   

Re: [cayugabirds-l] New Michigan State Forest Chenango Co. Red Crossbills, probable singing Bay breasted Warbler

[anneb . clark]

Wonderful list. 
Interesting to have more Ravens than crows. One factor other than the 
increasing number of nesting Ravens is the difference in nest stage.  Raven 
fledglings were mostly  out first and seem to be on the move for first forays 
with parents. American crows are just now fledging, most are in the ‘brancher’ 
phase in the vicinity of nests, not yet able to go to the ground and back up. 
And their parents are at their most secretive except when trying to get their 
erratically gliding young to safer spots. 
Anne

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jun 5, 2021, at 5:32 PM, David Nicosia  wrote:
> 
> 
> I did some atlas work in New Michigan State Forest Chenango co. this morning. 
> There were several flyover small flocks of Red Crossbills. I was able to get 
> a couple of poor recordings as they were flying birds.  I had a total of 13 
> RECR. Not sure of type. I sent my recordings to Matt Young. On Schwartz Rd 
> where the road crosses the swamp in some large spruces I heard a probable bay 
> breasted warbler, but only once! I didn't count it. I know this song well. 
> But I failed to get on it or hear it again.  It didn't respond to playback.  
> It could be a late migrant but what is interesting is I had a bay breasted 
> singing same spot May 26, 2020. I checked the spot last summer and didn't 
> hear it. But the habitat looks very good. Lots of spruces and some openings 
> near a swamp. I will have to keep an eye on this. It would be pretty cool to 
> have a bay breasted warbler in summer Chenango county. Mourning warblers are 
> becoming quite common in the cut over areas. I counted 18 in almost 10 miles. 
>  I had 66 blackburnians, 35 magnolia, 110 ovenbirds, 64 chestnut sided, 34 
> black throated blues, 16 black throated greens, and 8 Canadas among others. 
> There were 27 dark eyed juncos, 10 white throated sparrows, 7 winter wrens, 
> 27 golden crowned kinglets, 87 red eyed vireos, and 18 blue headed vireos.  I 
> had way more common ravens than american crows too.   
> 
> The habitat here continuing to change with more logging and strip cuts as 
> part of the DEC forest management plan.  There are more openings now vs 10 
> years ago hence mourning, Canada chestnut sided black throated blues have 
> really increased. Swainsons thrush is getting hard to find. I didn't get any 
> today.  But I assume there are still some around.  
> 
> My ebird lists are here with some poor to fair recordings of several 
> species:. 
> 
> https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S89665230
> 
> https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S89665436
> 
> https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S89665528
> 
> https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S89665826
> 
> Best, 
> Dave Nicosia. 
> 
> 
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not the birds please

[Maryfaith Miller]

This is a huge list, with lots of different people on it. It is so
unprofessional to use it to soapbox your personal political bent. I hope I
never read another email like that on here again.
Maryfaith

On Sat, Jun 5, 2021, 5:26 PM Carl Steckler  wrote:

> First it was statues, then military bases.
> Now the target of the woke crowd are birds.
> The American Ornithological Society is thinking about changing the names
> of some birds because they have a past that some call racist.
>
> Common people there is no room for political correctness in bird watching,
>
> Or did I just miss the memo?
>
> Please don’t let this hysteria ruin our hobby.
>
> There may be scientific reasons to change the name but unit for political
> reasons.
>
> Birding is and should be open and available to every person, period.
> What is next, ABA verses Audubon?
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Re: [cayugabirds-l] Not the birds please

[Robin Cisne]

What names are you referring to?  It's my understanding that what we used
to call an Oldsquaw is now properly called a Long-Tailed Duck.  Are there
other birds whose names are being changed?  The quotation below is from
Wikipedia, but similar commentaries are found in other references:

"The English word *squaw* is an ethnic and sexual slur
,[1]
[2]
[3]
 historically used
for Indigenous North American
 women.[4]
 Contemporary use
of the term, especially by non-Natives, is considered offensive, derogatory
, misogynist
 and racist
.[1]
[2]
[3]
[4]
[5]
[6]


The word is not used among Native American
, First
Nations , Inuit
, or Métis
 peoples."


Surely ornithologists and amateur birders alike don't wish to perpetuate
ignorant and disparaging slurs.





On Sat, Jun 5, 2021 at 5:26 PM Carl Steckler  wrote:

> First it was statues, then military bases.
> Now the target of the woke crowd are birds.
> The American Ornithological Society is thinking about changing the names
> of some birds because they have a past that some call racist.
>
> Common people there is no room for political correctness in bird watching,
>
> Or did I just miss the memo?
>
> Please don’t let this hysteria ruin our hobby.
>
> There may be scientific reasons to change the name but unit for political
> reasons.
>
> Birding is and should be open and available to every person, period.
> What is next, ABA verses Audubon?
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[cayugabirds-l] New Michigan State Forest Chenango Co. Red Crossbills, probable singing Bay breasted Warbler

[David Nicosia]

I did some atlas work in New Michigan State Forest Chenango co. this
morning. There were several flyover small flocks of Red Crossbills. I was
able to get a couple of poor recordings as they were flying birds.  I had a
total of 13 RECR. Not sure of type. I sent my recordings to Matt Young. On
Schwartz Rd where the road crosses the swamp in some large spruces I heard
a probable bay breasted warbler, but only once! I didn't count it. I know
this song well. But I failed to get on it or hear it again.  It didn't
respond to playback.  It could be a late migrant but what is interesting is
I had a bay breasted singing same spot May 26, 2020. I checked the spot
last summer and didn't hear it. But the habitat looks very good. Lots of
spruces and some openings near a swamp. I will have to keep an eye on this.
It would be pretty cool to have a bay breasted warbler in summer Chenango
county. Mourning warblers are becoming quite common in the cut over areas.
I counted 18 in almost 10 miles.  I had 66 blackburnians, 35 magnolia, 110
ovenbirds, 64 chestnut sided, 34 black throated blues, 16 black throated
greens, and 8 Canadas among others. There were 27 dark eyed juncos, 10
white throated sparrows, 7 winter wrens, 27 golden crowned kinglets, 87 red
eyed vireos, and 18 blue headed vireos.  I had way more common ravens than
american crows too.

The habitat here continuing to change with more logging and strip cuts as
part of the DEC forest management plan.  There are more openings now vs 10
years ago hence mourning, Canada chestnut sided black throated blues have
really increased. Swainsons thrush is getting hard to find. I didn't get
any today.  But I assume there are still some around.

My ebird lists are here with some poor to fair recordings of several
species:.

https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S89665230

https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S89665436

https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S89665528

https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S89665826

Best,
Dave Nicosia.

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[cayugabirds-l] Not the birds please

[Carl Steckler]

First it was statues, then military bases.
Now the target of the woke crowd are birds.
The American Ornithological Society is thinking about changing the names of
some birds because they have a past that some call racist.

Common people there is no room for political correctness in bird watching,

Or did I just miss the memo?

Please don’t let this hysteria ruin our hobby.

There may be scientific reasons to change the name but unit for political
reasons.

Birding is and should be open and available to every person, period.
What is next, ABA verses Audubon?

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[cayugabirds-l] Tomorrow’s field trip to Connecticut Hill

[Jane Leff]

Anyone fully vaccinated interested in carpooling? I have room for 3. Be
sure to let me know & we can meet at Lab of Ornithology at 7:20am.

Janie Leff

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