Re:[cayugabirds-l] cayugabirds-l digest: March 06, 2022

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

March 6, 3:30-5pm: Snyder Hill Road at Besemer Hill Road: Cedar wax wings 
taking the berries on our hawthorn tree. Negotiating with a messsmall group of 
Robins. Bluebirds checking out accommodations in a nearby birdhouse.
Marty Hatch
m...@cornell.edu


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> On Mar 6, 2022, at 12:00 AM, Upstate NY Birding digest 
>  wrote:
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> CAYUGABIRDS-L Digest for Sunday, March 06, 2022.
> 
> 1. FOY Sandhill Cranes @ MAC
> 2. Geese
> 3. Re: Geese
> 4. Snow geese at Montezuma
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> Subject: FOY Sandhill Cranes @ MAC
> From: "Johnson, Alyssa" 
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 15:47:00 +
> X-Message-Number: 1
> 
> Currently looking at 2 Sandhill Cranes at the Montezuma Audubon Center. One 
> of our volunteers, Richard, spotted them in the behind the building on the 
> berm between the two marshes. I have been eagerly looking and waiting to see 
> them show up and here they are  I can’t say how long they’ll hang out here 
> specifically, but I’d say the sooner you can come (today) the better chance 
> you have. The Montezuma Audubon Center building is only open Tues-Sat, 10-4. 
> The property is owned by NYSDEC, so even if the building is closed, you are 
> welcome to enjoy the trails sunrise to sunset.
> 
> Check this out for more general information about the MAC: Virtual Tour of 
> the Montezuma Audubon 
> Center
> 
> Any other sightings of cranes in the Montezuma Wetlands Complex, please share!
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> Subject: Geese
> From: Laura Stenzler 
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 17:22:32 +
> X-Message-Number: 2
> 
> Lots on Canada and some snow geese flying over Hunt Hill Rd  since 11am. 
> Dryden. 
> 
> Laura
> 
> Laura Stenzler
> l...@cornell.edu
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> Subject: Re: Geese
> From: David Nicosia 
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 12:34:03 -0500
> X-Message-Number: 3
> 
> Major flight of both snow and Canada geese from Broome co heading
> northeast. Also had 3 tundra swans mixed in with snows!
> 
>> On Sat, Mar 5, 2022, 12:23 PM Laura Stenzler  wrote:
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>> Lots on Canada and some snow geese flying over Hunt Hill Rd  since 11am.
>> Dryden.
>> 
>> Laura
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>> Laura Stenzler
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> Subject: Snow geese at Montezuma
> From: "Johnson, Alyssa" 
> Date: Sat, 5 Mar 2022 21:26:00 +
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> 
> I am watching a few thousand snow geese, maybe more, landing in a field right 
> next to the 89/31 intersection in Savannah. Many swans, Canadas, ducks, 
> crows, gulls and Horned Larks in attendance too!
> 
> Then migration is gaining momentum :)
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] cayugabirds-l digest: January 30, 2021

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

1/20/2021, 9:30am: a group of 8 robins perching on and flitting about the upper 
branches of a pine tree opposite the corner of Snyder Hill Road and Besemer 
Hill Road.
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Re:[cayugabirds-l] Suet Question

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

On Dec 18, 2018, at 8:58 PM, John Lute 
mailto:johnlut...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Marty,
 Are there any specific toxins that have you are concerned?
 From a food microbiology viewpoint, commercial beef suet for birds should be 
no cause for alarm in regards to toxins. I guess if the temperature gets too 
hot and the suet turns rancid, you could have a concern; but in that case, 
birds are smart enough to shun it.
 Happy holidays,
 John Lute
 p.s. I would have responded to the list-serve but I am not 100% sure about the 
correct procedures.

Hi John, and others on the list:
Yes. I’m not a microbiologist, but when I see things like the following, I 
wonder how much effect the pesticide and herbicide and biocide components in 
cow have on the formation of kidney and loin fat that we put in suet 
containers. I imagine that hatever is there must have a greater effect on their 
small bodies than it does on human bodies.
Marty

From  (slightly condensed)

Cows, pigs, chickens and sheep can all be directly dosed with pesticides to 
prevent pest infestation in the overcrowded and unsanitary conditions that 
exist on factory farms. But perhaps more important is the extent to which 
animals are exposed to crop pesticides through their food.

Pesticide residues are found in meat and animal byproducts, including, 
disturbingly, long-banned 
pesticides like DDT. 
These pesticides mostly come from the food that animals eat and end up getting 
stored in their fat, accumulating over time.

Unfortunately government agencies charged with ensuring the safety of our food 
are not taking adequate action. The Office of Inspector General 
found that the U.S. Department 
of Agriculture, Environmental Protection Agency and Food and Drug 
Administration did not do enough to protect the public from pesticides, 
veterinary drugs and heavy metals in meat…

Environmental Working Group estimates that a whopping 167 million pounds of 
pesticides
 are used each year just to grow food for animals in the United States. For 
glyphosate, the most commonly used pesticide in the world, 
residues
 allowed in animal feed can be more than 100 times that allowed on grains 
consumed directly by humans, and the amount of glyphosate 
allowed
 in red meat is more than 20 times that for most plant crops.

So we are essentially dousing animal food, typically genetically engineered 
corn and soy, with so much pesticide that the animals feeding on it can have 
higher levels in their tissue — what ultimately becomes a burger or steak — 
than plants grown for your supermarket produce department….


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[cayugabirds-l] Suet question

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

Hi,
I’ve been wondering if the beef suet I get at the market for my suet feeder 
cage has accumulated toxins strong enough to harm birds.

Marty Hatch

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Re: [cayugabirds-l] American three-toed woodpecker

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

Thank you all for your patience. This morning we had downys, hairys, and 
red-bellies at the suet, but not yet the bird we saw yesterday around noon.* 
We'll be checking at lunchtime (his and ours).
Best, Marty
*in other words, no yellow stripe on the head


On Mar 10, 2014, at 9:20 AM, Donna Scott wrote:

I am quite sure I saw a Black-backed Woodpecker here, Lansing Sta Rd in ~2007. 
I see them occasionally in Algonquin Prov Park Ontario, where I go every fall.
this was before I joined CBC  posted sightings.

Sent from my iPhone
Donna Scott

On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:31 PM, Alicia Plotkin 
t...@zoom-dsl.commailto:t...@zoom-dsl.com wrote:

I can't remember whether it was a Black-Backed or Three-Toed Woodpecker, but 
one of these was seen 20-25 years ago by an experienced birder from the Eaton 
Birding Society - maybe Lyn Jacobs? - at her home near Canandaigua Lake.  The 
sighting pre-dates eBird and apparently never was entered but a few other 
semi-local sitings have been.  So while these woodpeckers are very rare in this 
area they certainly are not unheard of.

Best -

Alicia


On 3/9/2014 3:35 PM, Martin Fellows Hatch wrote:
Dave,

Hairys come to our suet feeder often. It's not a Hairy. I'd say that the Hairys 
don't have as much bulk as this bird did.

Sorry I don't have more to describe of the body wing colors. The bird perched 
on the suet feeder in such a way that I could see only its left side. What I 
remember of it is that the belly was black/grey with white flecks and the wing 
was similar. Not as much white anywhere as I've seen on a Hairy, especially the 
belly. There was also a whitish stripe under its eye. Later this afternoon 
there has been a Downy and Hairy at the feeder. They both had more clear white 
on their bodies, especially on the underside.

The thing I remember most clearly was its call, the base tone of which was 
lower than the hairy's and still lower than the downy's, and the cheep of it 
all was somehow richer than that of the downy and hairy.

About size, I'd say that it is hard to know if it was larger or smaller than 
the Hairys I've seen, but I said larger because of the bulk of it.

Best, Marty

On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:

Marty,
The back and sides are more distinguishing between the species, so more detail 
would be helpful. I think immature Hairy Woodpeckers occasionally show yellow 
on the crown.

--Dave Nutter

On Mar 09, 2014, at 01:12 PM, Donna Scott 
d...@cornell.edumailto:d...@cornell.edu wrote:

Dear Marty  Susie
Please describe more about the feather patterns on the woodpecker. What pattern 
is on its back and sides?

My Sibley guide says the three-toed is a bit smaller than the Hairy wdpkr. 
(Altho without the two seen together, size is hard to judge, as they tell us in 
Spring Field Ornithology class)

However, the Black-Backed wdpkr, which also has a yellow head patch, is 
slightly larger than an Amer. Three Toed and the Hairy.

Both the Black- Backed and Amer. Three-toed Woodpeckers would be rare here, but 
w this severe winter weather it seems like anything is possible.
Thanks for more description of the bird.

Donna Scott
Lansing

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Donna Scott

On Mar 9, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Martin Fellows Hatch 
m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote:

Hope that this report is not too casual for you all, but we have had an 
American three-toed woodpecker at our suet feeder and on a maple tree nearby 
today. The feeder is out the window, within 10 feet of our dining-room table, 
so we can see it clearly. What we see is the following. Slightly larger than a 
Hairy. Head slightly larger. A Yellow stripe on the front of the top of the 
head (beginning behind the beak and above the eye and extending towards the 
top).

It has also been on a maple tree about 20 feet away from the feeder, moving 
about a bit on the trunk and branches and making a cry unlike those of the 
hairy and downy that I have heard: short and chippy, with a timbre that is 
bright and brisk, but the base tone is lower than the hairy and downy.

Marty and Susie Hatch
Snyder Hill Road, opposite Besemer Hill Road



Subject: Re: American Three-toed Woodpecker Sighting?
From: John and Sue Gregoire k...@empacc.netmailto:k...@empacc.net
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 14:29:04 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10

That would be exceedingly amazing for this area. Never say never but that 
report is
entirely too casual to be believed.
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Field Ornithologists
Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory
5373 Fitzgerald Road
Burdett,NY 14818-9626
Website: 
http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/http://www.empacc.net/%7Ekestrelhaven/
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On Sat, March 8, 2014 14:25, David Weber wrote:
Can anyone validate this sighting, or is it just another misidentification?

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S17357540

Good birding,
David

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[cayugabirds-l] American three-toed woodpecker

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

Hope that this report is not too casual for you all, but we have had an 
American three-toed woodpecker at our suet feeder and on a maple tree nearby 
today. The feeder is out the window, within 10 feet of our dining-room table, 
so we can see it clearly. What we see is the following. Slightly larger than a 
Hairy. Head slightly larger. A Yellow stripe on the front of the top of the 
head (beginning behind the beak and above the eye and extending towards the 
top).

It has also been on a maple tree about 20 feet away from the feeder, moving 
about a bit on the trunk and branches and making a cry unlike those of the 
hairy and downy that I have heard: short and chippy, with a timbre that is 
bright and brisk, but the base tone is lower than the hairy and downy.

Marty and Susie Hatch
Snyder Hill Road, opposite Besemer Hill Road



Subject: Re: American Three-toed Woodpecker Sighting?
From: John and Sue Gregoire k...@empacc.netmailto:k...@empacc.net
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 14:29:04 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10

That would be exceedingly amazing for this area. Never say never but that 
report is
entirely too casual to be believed.
--
John and Sue Gregoire
Field Ornithologists
Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory
5373 Fitzgerald Road
Burdett,NY 14818-9626
Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/
Conserve and Create Habitat

On Sat, March 8, 2014 14:25, David Weber wrote:
Can anyone validate this sighting, or is it just another misidentification?

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S17357540

Good birding,
David

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Subject: Re: American Three-toed Woodpecker Sighting?
From: Rob Blye rwb...@comcast.netmailto:rwb...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 21:10:04 +
X-Message-Number: 12

The species has been changed to hairy woodpecker which is much more likely.


Rob Blye
East Coventry Township
Chester County, Pennsylvania

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To: David Weber weberbird...@gmail.commailto:weberbird...@gmail.com
Cc: Cayugabirds-L 
cayugabirds-l@cornell.edumailto:cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu
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Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] American Three-toed Woodpecker Sighting?

That would be exceedingly amazing for this area. Never say never but that 
report is
entirely too casual to be believed.
--
John and Sue Gregoire
Field Ornithologists
Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory
5373 Fitzgerald Road
Burdett,NY 14818-9626
Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/
Conserve and Create Habitat


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Re: [cayugabirds-l] American three-toed woodpecker

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

Dave,

Hairys come to our suet feeder often. It's not a Hairy. I'd say that the Hairys 
don't have as much bulk as this bird did.

Sorry I don't have more to describe of the body wing colors. The bird perched 
on the suet feeder in such a way that I could see only its left side. What I 
remember of it is that the belly was black/grey with white flecks and the wing 
was similar. Not as much white anywhere as I've seen on a Hairy, especially the 
belly. There was also a whitish stripe under its eye. Later this afternoon 
there has been a Downy and Hairy at the feeder. They both had more clear white 
on their bodies, especially on the underside.

The thing I remember most clearly was its call, the base tone of which was 
lower than the hairy's and still lower than the downy's, and the cheep of it 
all was somehow richer than that of the downy and hairy.

About size, I'd say that it is hard to know if it was larger or smaller than 
the Hairys I've seen, but I said larger because of the bulk of it.

Best, Marty

On Mar 9, 2014, at 2:36 PM, Dave Nutter wrote:

Marty,
The back and sides are more distinguishing between the species, so more detail 
would be helpful. I think immature Hairy Woodpeckers occasionally show yellow 
on the crown.

--Dave Nutter

On Mar 09, 2014, at 01:12 PM, Donna Scott 
d...@cornell.edumailto:d...@cornell.edu wrote:

Dear Marty  Susie
Please describe more about the feather patterns on the woodpecker. What pattern 
is on its back and sides?

My Sibley guide says the three-toed is a bit smaller than the Hairy wdpkr. 
(Altho without the two seen together, size is hard to judge, as they tell us in 
Spring Field Ornithology class)

However, the Black-Backed wdpkr, which also has a yellow head patch, is 
slightly larger than an Amer. Three Toed and the Hairy.

Both the Black- Backed and Amer. Three-toed Woodpeckers would be rare here, but 
w this severe winter weather it seems like anything is possible.
Thanks for more description of the bird.

Donna Scott
Lansing

Sent from my iPhone
Donna Scott

On Mar 9, 2014, at 1:53 PM, Martin Fellows Hatch 
m...@cornell.edumailto:m...@cornell.edu wrote:

Hope that this report is not too casual for you all, but we have had an 
American three-toed woodpecker at our suet feeder and on a maple tree nearby 
today. The feeder is out the window, within 10 feet of our dining-room table, 
so we can see it clearly. What we see is the following. Slightly larger than a 
Hairy. Head slightly larger. A Yellow stripe on the front of the top of the 
head (beginning behind the beak and above the eye and extending towards the 
top).

It has also been on a maple tree about 20 feet away from the feeder, moving 
about a bit on the trunk and branches and making a cry unlike those of the 
hairy and downy that I have heard: short and chippy, with a timbre that is 
bright and brisk, but the base tone is lower than the hairy and downy.

Marty and Susie Hatch
Snyder Hill Road, opposite Besemer Hill Road



Subject: Re: American Three-toed Woodpecker Sighting?
From: John and Sue Gregoire k...@empacc.netmailto:k...@empacc.net
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 14:29:04 -0500
X-Message-Number: 10

That would be exceedingly amazing for this area. Never say never but that 
report is
entirely too casual to be believed.
--
John and Sue Gregoire
Field Ornithologists
Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory
5373 Fitzgerald Road
Burdett,NY 14818-9626
Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/
Conserve and Create Habitat

On Sat, March 8, 2014 14:25, David Weber wrote:
Can anyone validate this sighting, or is it just another misidentification?

http://ebird.org/ebird/view/checklist?subID=S17357540

Good birding,
David

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Applied Ecology*

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Subject: Re: American Three-toed Woodpecker Sighting?
From: Rob Blye rwb...@comcast.netmailto:rwb...@comcast.net
Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2014 21:10:04 +
X-Message-Number: 12

The species has been changed to hairy woodpecker which is much more likely.


Rob Blye
East Coventry Township
Chester County, Pennsylvania

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To: David Weber weberbird...@gmail.commailto:weberbird...@gmail.com
Cc: Cayugabirds-L 
cayugabirds-l@cornell.edumailto:cayugabirds-l@cornell.edu
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2014 2:29:04 PM
Subject: Re: [cayugabirds-l] American Three-toed Woodpecker Sighting?

That would be exceedingly amazing for this area. Never say never but that 
report is
entirely too casual to be believed.
--
John and Sue Gregoire
Field Ornithologists
Kestrel Haven Avian Migration Observatory
5373 Fitzgerald Road
Burdett,NY 14818-9626
Website: http://www.empacc.net/~kestrelhaven/
Conserve and Create Habitat

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[cayugabirds-l] parrots in Ithaca?

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

I'm enjoying this list immensely. Thank you.
I hope you will not take this as a crank submission. It is for real.
Last evening we having dinner at friend's house on Willow Ave., near Yates 
Street. To their bird feeder came a really unusual bird. 
About 11 inches long. A slim body with a tail about 4 inches long. The feather 
colors were grey with, I think, some dark blue in the tail.  The body feathers 
went up as far as the neck, with a distinct collar around the neck, rounded 
in towards the body. The head was small, compared to what we expected for a 
body that long--no more than an inch. The head was distinctly parrot- or 
parakeet-like. It was dark blue and the yellow beak was very much like a 
parakeet, extending up to the forehead. But the body was long enough that it 
seemed to big for a parakeet (but I don't know much about parakeets).  So, was 
it an escapee from someone's downtown cage?
Marty Hatch (for four observers)




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[cayugabirds-l] parakeets in Ithaca?

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

I'll keep this going just a small bit because Dave has said he has an interest 
in it and Meena suggested that it might be a Monk Parakeet. And it was a bird 
in the wild.
It wasn't a Monk--didn't look like any of the ones on the sites that Meena 
pointed me to.  And there are several things that i remember further about it 
that might narrow it down more.  The head was, as I said, small, but more than 
that, it was bald, in the sense that the feathers came up from the body to a 
collar that then sort of rounded into the neck in a rounded ring that turned 
into the body (like it was waring a coat with a muff at the top). The small 
head was like a vulture head. It had the small beady eyes and chunky yellow 
bill of a parakeet, and these dominated the head appearance. The body was 
slimmer than the Monk Parakeets pictured on the websites. And the tail was long 
and thin (like a thrasher?), and out of proportioned long to the body (at least 
to those of us who look at robins, red-wings, bluebirds, and orioles most of 
the time). 
So, long tail, slim body, 11 inches long, tail long and straight, round 
muff-like collar. Bald head with parakeet beak and eye. Grey body with dark 
blue in tail.
Hey, what about a tropical exotic




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[cayugabirds-l] bald female northern cardinal

[Martin Fellows Hatch]

Identified, thanks to Sandy Podulka. Almost certainly a bald female northern 
cardinal (though much slimmer than the one pictured in the Cornell site).

http://www.birds.cornell.edu/pfw/AboutBirdsandFeeding/BaldBirds.htm

Marty Hatch

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