Re: [ccp4bb] Help with Superpose results

2008-04-08 Thread Anastassis Perrakis
Hello all, I have still a question about LSQKAB Why LSQKAB gives a rmsd (or a rms xyz I don't mind) non null for glycine side chains ? Disclaimer: The following is just humor with the best intentions to entertain the bb audience and not aiming to annoy anybody, but hoping that some

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with Superpose results

2008-04-08 Thread Philippe DUMAS
Although this is not a very important issue..., I am a bit surprised by Gerard's insistance for a 'stop calling rmsd rms deviation'. Isn'it a general term in statistical studies, valid for distances separating homologous atoms as well as for any other factor (B factors for example) ? Philippe

Re: [ccp4bb] which concentrated salt has lowest vapour pressure?

2008-04-08 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear all, once again this bulletin board proved to be a great ressouce. I obtained 15 emails since I posted - thanks to everybody! I composed a summary for the CCP4 wiki, which can be found at:

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with Superpose results

2008-04-08 Thread Nathalie Colloc'h
Hello all, I have still a question about LSQKAB Why LSQKAB gives a rmsd (or a rms xyz I don't mind) non null for glycine side chains ? thanks a lot nathalie Eleanor Dodson a écrit : Q1) Rms xyz and rmsd mean exactly the same . And as for what you should report - that depends on the

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with Superpose results

2008-04-08 Thread Nathalie Colloc'h
Sorry for this 'joke-like' question which was not intend to be a joke There was a misunderstanding about my question It is not null or not null which worry me, but it is the fact there is a value for glycine 'side chains that I know for sure having no side chains. From my point of view, it

Re: [ccp4bb] helix ordering upon metal binding

2008-04-08 Thread Patrick Loll
Here's an example (although not Fe): Futterer, K., Ravelli, R. B. G., White, S. A., Nicoll, A. J. Allemann, R. K. (2008). Acta Cryst. D64, 264-272. On 8 Apr 2008, at 9:02 AM, Florian Schmitzberger wrote: Dear All, Are there prominent examples of ordering of an alpha-helix within a

Re: [ccp4bb] helix ordering upon metal binding

2008-04-08 Thread Hector H Hernandez
Here is another example of ordering of alpha helix upon metal (nickel) binding. Nature Structural Biology 10, 794 - 799 (2003) Crystal structure of the nickel-responsive transcription factor NikR Eric R Schreiter, Michael D Sintchak, Yayi Guo, Peter T Chivers, Robert T Sauer Catherine L

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with Superpose results

2008-04-08 Thread Bryan W. Lepore
an interesting way to compare structures from the same protein sequence is reported here : acta cryst D56 714-721, 2000 objective comparison of protein structures : error-scaled difference distance matrice acta cryst D60 2269-2275, 2004 domain identification by iterative analysis of

Re: [ccp4bb] Help with Superpose results

2008-04-08 Thread Philippe DUMAS
Apparently I had missed some subtle considerations... Yet, I confess am not fully convinced: is it so wrong to speak of how much different structures DEVIATE from each other ? I do not see what prevents you from defining the correct underlying probability distribution. That interatomic distances