Re: [ccp4bb] degradation of protein durring freez thaw

2010-04-22 Thread David Briggs
Ouch! I completely agree re: single proteins, but I had always found/heard that protein-protein complexes tolerate freezing/thawing less-well that their individual components. Irrespective of generalisations, In the posted case, where apparently, before freeze complex is intact and concentrated,

[ccp4bb] Protein-antibody complex

2010-04-22 Thread Jan Rash
Hi All, I have a simple question about the complex formation between macromolecular complex and antibody. My protein is stable in the presence of the 5mM DTT and under these conditions the reducing environment is too strong for the antibody to survive. I am also now trying to check the

Re: [ccp4bb] degradation of protein durring freez thaw

2010-04-22 Thread Tom Peat
Hello again, I still think it depends on the protein complex, but I agree that the consensus/ hearsay/ anecdotal/ old crystallographer's tales revolve around complexes not working as well as single proteins for freezing. I'm not sure that has been shown to be the case, although again I would

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein-antibody complex

2010-04-22 Thread Enrico Stura
Jan, Are you dealing with a whole IgG or an Fab? Most Fab-antigen complexes will not be affected by 5mM DTT. Fab production makes use of reducing agents that allow the antibody hinge region to become exposed to proteases. If you need DTT to prevent your antigen from aggregating, try to

Re: [ccp4bb] degradation of protein durring freez thaw

2010-04-22 Thread Shao-Yang Ku
From your description, the protein concentration dropped from 10mg/mL to 1-2mg/mL after freeze-thaw. It's hard to imagine that your protein has been degraded. Degraded by what (protease)? At -80oC? Did you see a ladder of lower bands on the gel after the freeze-thaw? If you're interested

Re: [ccp4bb] degradation of protein durring freez thaw

2010-04-22 Thread Roger Rowlett
I have to agree that protein is denaturing or precipitating irreversibly during the freeze-thaw cycle. While HOW you freeze does matter (cooling slowly in a freezer is almost always destined to fail) it should be noted that many proteins simply won't tolerate freezing. (I seem to specialize in

Re: [ccp4bb] Protein-antibody complex

2010-04-22 Thread Guenter Fritz
Hi Jan, you might mutate the Cys residues which are oxidation sensitive, you could block the Cys thiols in your oxidation sensitive protein, or you try crystallization at slightly acidic conditions where the Cys thiol should be more stable (might be bad for the ab-protein complex), or try

Re: [ccp4bb] degradation of protein durring freez thaw

2010-04-22 Thread Mischa Machius
A couple more thoughts: 1. thermodynamics says that proteins denature at low temperatures just as they do at high temperatures. 2. flash-cooling does away with some of what thermodynamics says (not an equilibrium process anymore) 3. Whether a given protein can be frozen needs to be

Re: [ccp4bb] sigma cutoff for fitting waters in model

2010-04-22 Thread Ed Pozharski
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 17:21 -0700, James Holton wrote: The 0.3% chance of a peak being above 3 sigmas assumes that the histogram of electron density values is Gaussian. It is not! In fact, it is a funny-looking bimodal distribution (the peaks are protein and solvent regions). Indeed!

Re: [ccp4bb] degradation of protein durring freez thaw

2010-04-22 Thread James Holton
Lots of things change with temperature. An excellent book on the subject is P. Dohzu's Cryobiochemistry (1977) Academic Press, which I think every lab that freezes biological molecules should have on hand ($15 on Amazon.com). For example, did you know that the pH of a tris buffer jumps from

Re: [ccp4bb] sigma cutoff for fitting waters in model

2010-04-22 Thread Dale Tronrud
Yes, there has been a conflation of the standard deviation and the r.m.s. of the distribution when it comes to sigmas. The mathematical formulas look similar (for a Normal distribution) so some people have sloppily transferred the meanings of the mathematical symbols from one concept to the

[ccp4bb] Rsym problems...maybe???

2010-04-22 Thread Daniel Bonsor
Hello again. At first I was not worry but maybe now I am. I have completed a structure and submitted to the PDB. They queried my Rsym value in the highest resolution bin, 2.5-2.37A (may I dare say it 100%). I was not worried at the time as I had: 99.4% completeness Mean(I/sdI) of 2.5 and a

Re: [ccp4bb] geometry problems with sugars

2010-04-22 Thread tirumal
Thanks to all who responded. 180 degrees flip of the problematic NAGs, did help. At the moment, there is no substitute for knowledge when building carbohydrates - it would be a substantial improvement I think if someone added intelligent carbohydrate validation tools into Coot. If you have a

Re: [ccp4bb] Rsym problems...maybe???

2010-04-22 Thread James Holton
R-statistics are unstable for weak data (such as systematic absences). Ignore R-sym for your highest-angle bin. I/sdI is more informative, and from the look of yours I would say you can reduce your resolution in the sense that you probably have useful data (I/sdI 1) to better than 2.5 A.

Re: [ccp4bb] Rsym problems...maybe???

2010-04-22 Thread Frank von Delft
Yeah, stop worrying! Your I/sdI is all that matters. phx On 22/04/2010 18:06, Daniel Bonsor wrote: Hello again. At first I was not worry but maybe now I am. I have completed a structure and submitted to the PDB. They queried my Rsym value in the highest resolution bin, 2.5-2.37A (may I

[ccp4bb] 3D system set up

2010-04-22 Thread lei feng
hello everyone I am about to setup a 3D system for crystallography. right now I can only think of coot and pymol software. so I might just go with Windows sytem, plus the Nvidia 3D vision kit I know there is a detailed list of hardware recommended. but are they compatiblility issues?

Re: [ccp4bb] Rsym problems...maybe???

2010-04-22 Thread Jim Pflugrath
Yeah, but how was I/sdI determined? Most programs allow you to multiply your sdI by any number you want which in turns means that you can create any I/sdI that you want. A multiplicity of 11 does not explain a high Rsym to me. Jim On Thu, 22 Apr 2010, Frank von Delft wrote: Yeah, stop

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2010-04-22 Thread Sebastian Hiller
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Re: [ccp4bb] geometry problems with sugars

2010-04-22 Thread Klaus Piontek
Dear sugar loving people, I have been working with a lot of glycoproteins (up to 30 % carbohydrates) at resolutions as bad as 2.8 Å. Nevertheless, I was able to built sometimes about 10 sugar moieties/carbohydrate chain. Although, sugar molecules usually have a somewhat bulky density, and

Re: [ccp4bb] 3D system set up

2010-04-22 Thread Sabuj Pattanayek
Hi, I am about to setup a 3D system for crystallography. right now I can only think of coot and pymol software. so I might just go with Windows sytem, plus the Nvidia 3D vision kit If you're only going to use coot and pymol then perhaps a zalman will do?:

Re: [ccp4bb] Rsym problems...maybe???

2010-04-22 Thread Edward A. Berry
There are plenty of structures in the database with R-sym=0.99. But something is odd here. If I understand R-pim, it should always be bigger than Rsym, because this factor of sqrt(N/(N-1)) is always 1 Are you saying Rpim is .30 and Rsym is 1.00? Last time I deposited a structure, Rsym and Rmerge

Re: [ccp4bb] geometry problems with sugars

2010-04-22 Thread Kim Henrick
I am trying to resist answering ccp4bb ... but Thanks to all who responded. 180 degrees flip of the problematic NAGs, did help. If you have a poor density (which I guess, generally is the case for large glycoprotein structures) you have to depend on trial and error strategy to get the

[ccp4bb] Coot does not read svg icons

2010-04-22 Thread Tim Gruene
Hello, I installed coot-Linux-i686-ubuntu-8.04.3-gtk2-python on my Latop (i686, Debian testing). Upon start-up, I read the error message: Error loading icon: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot does not read svg icons

2010-04-22 Thread Tim Gruene
Hello Gabriel, I installed librsvg2-common. Now the error message is gone and the icons are all complete. Thank you very much! Tim On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 04:53:27PM -0400, gbirr...@bidmc.harvard.edu wrote: Hi Tim, This problem came up on Coot for Mac some time ago. Can you check the

[ccp4bb] Setting Microbatch trays !!

2010-04-22 Thread rashmi panigrahi
Hi, While setting up microbatch trays (under oil crystallization), 1. Has anybody used mineral oil (sigma M8410) and obtained some crystal hits? 2. Has anybody used anything other than Al's oil from Hampton, as Parafin oil from sigma or silicone oil from sigma and obtained some crystal hits?