Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-05-05 Thread Bryan Lepore
A quote comes to mind (I cannot resist) : "Now, my own suspicion is that the universe is not only queerer than we suppose, but queerer than we can suppose [...]" -J. B. S. Haldane "Possible Worlds" in Possible Worlds and Other Essays (1927), p. 286

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-05-05 Thread Natesh Ramanathan
I absolutely agree with Guenter. This non experts speaking wrong things is increasingly happening nowadays. Thanks Guenter, for pointing this out. A theory unless it is given experimental data derived evidence it is still a prediction (just like weather prediction, unless it is realised in the

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-05-05 Thread Jan Dohnalek
We are getting the same feeling from discussions with (non-structural) biologists around us. I also agree that AlphaFold models are a great tool but they do not tell everything and cannot exactly replace experiments. Is the development mainly in the hands of journals' reviewers...? Best, Jan

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure prediction - waiting to happen

2023-05-05 Thread Guenter Fritz
Dear all, taking AlphaFold models for " true" experimental structures seems to become a serious problem. I am just returning from a meeting (not a structural biology meeting) and saw one model after other. And the non-structural biologist used terms like "we calculated a structure"  or "a

[ccp4bb] Openings

2023-05-05 Thread Tewfik Soulimane
Dear all I would like to draw your attention to the two faculty positions in Protein Biochemistry and Biochemical Engineering/bioprocess at the University of Limerick. Closing date for applications is the 11th of May https://my.corehr.com/pls/ulrecruit/erq_jobspec_version_4.display_form Best

[ccp4bb] Advanced Methods for Ambient Crystallography at ESRF-EBS Workshop - 21-23 November 2023

2023-05-05 Thread Daniele de Sanctis
Dear all The ESRF and EMBL Joint Structural Biology Group, with the support of EU project Streamline, is organizing a workshop on sample preparation, data collection and data processing for Ambient Temperature Crystallography. ESRF and EMBL have been laying the groundwork for the future