Re: [ccp4bb] symmetry possibilities

2022-07-22 Thread Edward A. Berry
As for your second question, whether refining in a lower symmetry affects the R-factors, On 7/20/22 10:10 AM, Jorge Iulek wrote:     Related, and a question I mentioned before in this forum: what if a genuine 2 axis (say , P222 to P2, or even to P1) (I do not mean this is the case here) is

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] renaming chains

2021-11-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
I have noticed renaming chains in the sequence ID's but not in the coordinates: 2FBW_3|Chains C, G[auth P]|Succinate dehydrogenase cytoch MATTAKEEMARFWEKNTKSSRPLSPHISIYKWSLPMAMSITHRGTGVALSLGVSLFSL 2FBW_4|Chains D, H[auth Q]|Succinate dehydrogenase [ubiqu

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Problem with peakmax

2021-06-10 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 06/10/2021 11:19 AM, James Holton wrote: I'm afraid the only bash command I know is: "tcsh" I learned csh by studying "elves" To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link:

Re: [ccp4bb] Ice ring data issue

2021-03-05 Thread Edward A. Berry
) On 03/05/2021 04:00 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: For manually masking out the rings, you can use mtz2various to dump reflections in resolution ranges without ice in ascii, cat them all together and use f2mtz to read them into a new mtz file. Example attached. You might also be able to do it using

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Ice ring data issue

2021-03-05 Thread Edward A. Berry
For manually masking out the rings, you can use mtz2various to dump reflections in resolution ranges without ice in ascii, cat them all together and use f2mtz to read them into a new mtz file. Example attached. You might also be able to do it using mtzutils to write out mtz files in limited

Re: [ccp4bb] Pymol Map range

2021-03-05 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 03/04/2021 10:42 AM, Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: If there is interest I could post a tgz file with -as far as I can determine- the latest version of all manuals in HTML format (0.8 MB total).) Yes, I would like to grab a copy of the manuals. Ed

Re: [ccp4bb] Depositing data reduced with HKL2000 - ~half as many reflections in log file statistics

2020-11-21 Thread Edward A. Berry
This came up on phnix BB recently: On 10/20/2020 01:30 PM, John Berrisford wrote: Dear Armando and Pavel During the deposition process we compare two values _reflns.number_obs And _refine.ls_number_reflns_obs We expect the number of observed reflections to be higher (or the same) as the

Re: [ccp4bb] Does MicroED (microcrystal electron diffraction) have phase problem ?

2020-08-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
For my own info, Does microED encompass work with 2D crystals, or only micro-3D crystals? On 08/15/2020 10:40 PM, Jessica Bruhn wrote: Hi Alex, Welcome to the field of microED! From a practical standpoint, microED also suffers from the phase problem, and somewhat moreso compared to X-ray

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Accessing full list of programs in CCP4I2

2020-07-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
There seems to be a list of the 7.0 programs (and documentation!) still available: http://www.ccp4.ac.uk/html/FUNCTION.html I hope this is not going away! eab On 07/07/2020 12:09 PM, Tim Gruene wrote: Dear Kelvin, the command 'ls $CBIN' lists the majority of CCP4 programs on your system. This

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] number of frames to get a full dataset?

2020-06-29 Thread Edward A. Berry
Now can we get rid of all the superfluous disks in our RAID? Or at least not replace them when they fail? On 06/29/2020 06:24 PM, Andreas Förster wrote: I like to think that the reflections I carefully measured at high multiplicity are not redundant, which the dictionary on my computer

Re: [ccp4bb] REMARK 280 in mmcif? (and thoughts about "% w/v")

2020-01-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 01/26/2020 01:02 PM, benjamin bax wrote: Data items in the PDBX_EXPTL_CRYSTAL_GROW_COMP category record details about the components of the solutions that were 'mixed' to produce the crystal.

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Potential weak binding ligand in the active site

2020-01-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
Happy New Years to all! delete the ligand you fitted and any water molecules near the ligand and run a few rounds of refinement to get an unbiased omit map. The cavity may be filled with bulk solvent by the refinement program, which can reduce the difference signal from whatever is there.

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] Rfree from another mtz file

2019-09-17 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 09/16/2019 06:29 PM, Mariana Ajalla wrote: Dear all, We tried to use the Rfree set from a lower resolution data with a higher resolution from the same Crystal. To do so We used aimless at ccp4i with the option use free flag from another mtz file and extend the data. I think it worked, but

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Problem in real space - please sign & invite other scientists to sign this letter

2019-08-20 Thread Edward A. Berry
Sorry- Richard Muller (How could I get that wrong?!) To unsubscribe from the CCP4BB list, click the following link: https://www.jiscmail.ac.uk/cgi-bin/webadmin?SUBED1=CCP4BB=1

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Problem in real space - please sign & invite other scientists to sign this letter

2019-08-20 Thread Edward A. Berry
Agreed. I support green new deal and I think we should be doing all we can to combat climate change, not because I have studied it and concluded it is a problem but because some very smart people have, and have come to that conclusion. But I would not sign a letter saying that I have

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] Re: [ccp4bb] Better Beamline suggestion!

2019-08-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
I would respectfully suggest that higher pixel resolution does not generally help much in these situations. If an average spot is 10 or more pixels wide then the profile is defined pretty well. But if the spots overlap, they still overlap with higher pixel density. It may make profile fitting

Re: [ccp4bb] [EXTERNAL] [ccp4bb] [6HR5] collected on an Eiger so Rmerge not relevant

2019-07-31 Thread Edward A. Berry
I think it is not really the detector, but the strategy. If you decrease exposure time by a factor of ten and make up for it by 10 x higher redundancy, then obviously R-merge, which is a measure of accuracy of the individual frames, is going to suffer. Chi^2 statistics can distinguish this

Re: [ccp4bb] (EXTERNAL) Re: [ccp4bb] Does ncs bias R-free? And if so, can it be avoided by special selection of the free set?

2019-06-05 Thread Edward A. Berry
cture factors in the center of the excluded zone will be poorly determined, since information pertaining to them is being excluded. So of course the R-factor calculated from these reflections will be higher than with randomly absent data. Furthermore, if G-function is the vehicle by which

Re: [ccp4bb] Does ncs bias R-free? And if so, can it be avoided by special selection of the free set?

2019-06-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
will be poorly determined, since information pertaining to them is being excluded. So of course the R-factor calculated from these reflections will be higher than with randomly absent data. Furthermore, if G-function is the vehicle by which R-free follows R, R-free will follow less closely

[ccp4bb] Does ncs bias R-free? And if so, can it be avoided by special selection of the free set?

2019-05-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
Revisiting (and testing) an old question: On 08/12/2003 02:38 PM, wgsc...@chemistry.ucsc.edu wrote: *** For details on how to be removed from this list visit the *** *** CCP4 home page http://www.ccp4.ac.uk *** On 08/12/2003 06:43 AM, Dirk Kostrewa wrote: (1) you only

Re: [ccp4bb] (EXTERNAL) [ccp4bb] Heme b

2019-04-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
(in case everyone assumes someone else already answered offline, which they probably have) In coot go to the region where you want to put the heme and do: File:get monomer and type HEM in the box that pops up. This gives plain old heme b (ferroprotoporphrin 9) like in Hb or cyt b For heme C

Re: [ccp4bb] (EXTERNAL) [ccp4bb] pseudo internal symmetry

2019-04-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
While I agree with testing in lower symmetry (and I'm sure you have), it is also possible that the asymmetry is too slight or doesn't affect the crystals contacts, so that the dimer would orient randomly as it packs into the crystal. In that case, taking the average over all asymmetric units,

Re: [ccp4bb] (EXTERNAL) Re: [ccp4bb] acceptable difference between Average B-factor and Wilson B

2019-03-12 Thread Edward A. Berry
What if you have one domain with many B-factors aroun 70 and above, and another domain with B-factors around 20? The atoms with high B-factor will make essentially no contribution to the intensty of spots beyond 3 A, and so have no effect on the slope of the Wilson plot byond that. But they

Re: [ccp4bb] (EXTERNAL) Re: [ccp4bb] Question about the electron density maps (.ccp4) in PDBe

2019-03-04 Thread Edward A. Berry
Also check if the mean value of the map over the ASU is zero. If so, the map was probably calculated without the 0,0,0 term of the Fourier series, so zero does not represent zero density but rather the mean density. On 03/04/2019 12:43 PM, Ian Tickle wrote: Hi Sen If you multiply the

Re: [ccp4bb] (EXTERNAL) RE: [ccp4bb] Confused about centric reflections

2019-03-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
and add pi to the phase. So we get 2 possible phases, separated by 180*. (Or something like that.) -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board On Behalf Of Edward A. Berry Sent: Saturday, March 2, 2019 2:00 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Confused about centric reflections

Re: [ccp4bb] Confused about centric reflections

2019-03-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
:00 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: The wiki: https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__strucbio.biologie.uni-2Dkonstanz.de_ccp4wiki_index.php_Centric-5Fand-5Facentric-5Freflections=DwICaQ=ogn2iPkgF7TkVSicOVBfKg=cFgyH4s-peZ6Pfyh0zB379rxK2XG5oHu7VblrALfYPA=HENAQrgItEIhnnUZhWe8GMKW5sRX2v7V

[ccp4bb] Confused about centric reflections

2019-03-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
The wiki: https://strucbio.biologie.uni-konstanz.de/ccp4wiki/index.php/Centric_and_acentric_reflections says: "A reflection is centric if there is a reciprocal space symmetry operator which maps it onto itself (or rather its Friedel mate). . . . Centric reflections in space group P2 and P21 are

Re: [ccp4bb] visualising anis B factors

2019-01-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
(Another idle post to see if we can hit the record) One assumes the image is an attachment, and won't be included in the reply. But no, its inline with the text. Easy enough to delete if you notice that, but less likely to be noticed as the thread gets longer and longer . . . On 01/23/2019

[ccp4bb] What to check in annotated pdb before approving release? was Very strange LINK cards appearing in recent structures

2018-11-17 Thread Edward A. Berry
So, are there any other common errors of annotation that one should look for? I've just submitted seven structures (same protein) and there are some newly introduced LINK records, but all seem correct. eab On 11/11/2018 02:31 PM, Robbie Joosten wrote: Hi Tristan, Erroneous LINK records happen

Re: [ccp4bb] VERY old mtz file..

2018-11-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
In case one wants to play around with openVMS or just recover some now-unreadable old data, and doesn't have a vax farm or even a single vax computer,there are step-by-step instructions for setting up a vax system using the simh emulator:

Re: [ccp4bb] R-merge is too high !!

2018-09-28 Thread Edward A. Berry
The fact that chi^2 is approximately 1.0 in all shells says that the deviations are about what is expected from the error model. The fact that Rpim is much lower than Rmeas means that you have rather high redundancy. This would seem to be a case of collecting low dose per image and making up

Re: [ccp4bb] [ccpem] Creating map volume of custom size

2018-07-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
Hi Melanie, Mapmask was suggested. The XYZLIM command of mapmask takes values in grid points or fractional coordinates. You could make a 300A cube by giving fractional coordinates of 300/(current cell edge), But since that doesn't change the grid it won't change the thickness of your slices. I

Re: [ccp4bb] To post to ccp4bb...

2018-07-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
Is it a membrane protein? Looks like a phospholipid without the phosphate. diglyceride maybe? But I see not much blue density. Presumably this fills out if you contour at a lower but still reasonable level? On 07/02/2018 06:26 AM, Christopher Horne wrote: Does anyone have any insight into this

Re: [ccp4bb] Regarding symmetry notion in coot

2018-06-21 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 06/21/2018 03:34 PM, John Berrisford wrote: From a PDB deposition point of view, I echo Paul’s comment. If possible, please move your molecule closer to the origin. It helps with the curation process and is easier for users of your entry as some software struggles with such extreme

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with HEC in CCP4

2018-05-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
nformation in the dictionary, then actually heme C (HEC) should be the same as heme b (protoheme). On 05/15/2018 04:35 AM, Eugene Osipov wrote: Dear CCP4 developers, please fix errors with heme c dictionary file HEC.cif. Edward Berry described this problem in detail 4 years ago: https://www.mail-a

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with HEC in CCP4

2018-05-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
t; On Behalf Of Eugene Osipov Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2018 10:36 To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Problems with HEC in CCP4 Dear CCP4 developers, please fix errors with heme c dictionary file HEC.cif. Edward Berry described this problem in detail 4 years ago: https://www.mail-archiv

Re: [ccp4bb] Compound with flexible conformation but nM Kd

2018-04-26 Thread Edward A. Berry
For proteins in membranes, or proteins purified in the presence of detergents and/or lipids, the active site is sometimes surrounded by a hydrophobic mileau. The actual concentration that the binding site sees is then dependent on partitioning of the ligand between the water (where its

Re: [ccp4bb] How to get Imean/SIGImean from separated anomalous data?

2018-03-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
/2018 06:42 AM, Eleanor Dodson wrote: No problem with GUI2.. Eleanor On 13 March 2018 at 22:38, Edward A. Berry <ber...@upstate.edu <mailto:ber...@upstate.edu>> wrote: Thanks- that works! pdb-redo/tools/cif2cif in.cif out.cif eab On 03/13/2018 05:47 PM, Robbie Joost

Re: [ccp4bb] How to get Imean/SIGImean from separated anomalous data?

2018-03-13 Thread Edward A. Berry
bulletin board <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> on behalf of Edward A. Berry <ber...@upstate.edu> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2018 10:25:25 PM

[ccp4bb] How to get Imean/SIGImean from separated anomalous data?

2018-03-13 Thread Edward A. Berry
I want to work with an mmcif file that has I+,sigI+,I-,SigI-; in different columns for each reflection (no Imean). cif2mtz gives those same columns in the output mtz, with or without ANOMALOUS keyword. cif2mtz and truncate seem to need the anomalous data as separate reflections hkl and -h-k-l

Re: [ccp4bb] questionable structures

2018-02-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 01/21/2016 05:48 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: Also, pubmed commons allows comments on the abstract page for every article. Whenever you look up an article on pubmed, there is an invitation to leave comments below, and if a comment is left it is prominently displayed above the article like

Re: [ccp4bb] How to define the DNA bond between P and O3’ from two different symmetric units?

2018-01-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
Dear Peng, The choice of asymmetric unit is somewhat arbitrary. Please forgive me and ignore this if I am saying something obvious and you already know this does not apply in your case, but I see most of your previous posts concern EM structures, so perhaps you are relatively new to solving

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: Re: [ccp4bb] coordinate transformation

2017-12-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
symgen x , y-2, z end New CoM 0.7 -0.7 -0.2 Eleanor On 18 December 2017 at 00:19, Edward A. Berry <ber...@upstate.edu <mailto:ber...@upstate.edu>> wrote: Neat idea! And do you have a 1-line command for setting all the coordinates t

Re: [ccp4bb] coordinate transformation

2017-12-18 Thread Edward A. Berry
ut changed.pdb symgen x , y-2, z end New CoM 0.7 -0.7 -0.2 Eleanor On 18 December 2017 at 00:19, Edward A. Berry <ber...@upstate.edu <mailto:ber...@upstate.edu>> wrote: Neat idea! And do you have a 1-line command for setting all the coordinates to 1,1,1? or 0.1,0.

Re: [ccp4bb] coordinate transformation

2017-12-17 Thread Edward A. Berry
Neat idea! And do you have a 1-line command for setting all the coordinates to 1,1,1? or 0.1,0.1,0.1 if I still want it near the origin but biased toward the inside of the positive-going cell? eab On 12/14/2017 07:23 PM, James Holton wrote: What I usually do for this is make a copy of the PDB

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal structure of an unknown protein

2017-12-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
In this case you know the protein is closely relaed to whatefer contaminer found, and you have good sequence data, so I agree the next step is blast. Maybe it is an isozyme of the structure used. In cases where you solve an unknown by heavy atom derivatives and have no idea what it is; and

Re: [ccp4bb] coordinate transformation

2017-12-14 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 12/14/2017 04:34 AM, Tim Gruene wrote: Dear Tommi, 1. if you only need to consider translations, and not other symmetry operations, you can use moleman2, convert coordinates to fractional ones and add or substract the integer that brings the centre of mass closest to 0. 2. In case you

Re: [ccp4bb] new ContaMiner features

2017-11-23 Thread Edward A. Berry
My 2 cents worth: I think contaminer is an extremely useful service. I may be a sloppy biochemist, but I am not the only one. There are multiple structures in the database of say bacterioferritin or AcrB that were solved from crystals that were supposed to be something else. I remember in a

Re: [ccp4bb] Scripting for COOT

2017-11-16 Thread Edward A. Berry
(set-go-to-atom-molecule 0) (set-go-to-atom-chain-residue-atom-name "B" 42 " CA ") Would those be also on the command line, or where? On 11/16/2017 07:19 AM, Paul Emsley wrote: On 16/11/2017 08:08, Martín Martínez Ripoll wrote: I am trying to write a long script that, among others, runs

Re: [ccp4bb] model bias

2017-10-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
in the region of the deleted subunit to resolve the contradiction. On 10/11/2017 04:47 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: This is hard to understand/impossible, at least in terms of simple 2fo-fc and fo-fc maps. We can think of a difference map as the difference between two maps, like fo-fc map = fo map - fc

Re: [ccp4bb] model bias

2017-10-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
This is hard to understand/impossible, at least in terms of simple 2fo-fc and fo-fc maps. We can think of a difference map as the difference between two maps, like fo-fc map = fo map - fc map. There is no model in the region, since you deleted it, so Fc=0, and Fo-Fc negative => Fo<0, so 2fo-fc

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 website not secure

2017-10-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
exposing themselves with out of date browsers. With best wishes, Guillaume On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:34, Edward A. Berry <ber...@upstate.edu> wrote: Is it because of this? Its been coming for a while now: https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/04/30/deprecating-non-secure-http/ I see no

Re: [ccp4bb] ccp4 website not secure

2017-10-11 Thread Edward A. Berry
Is it because of this? Its been coming for a while now: https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2015/04/30/deprecating-non-secure-http/ I see no reason why a website, dedicated to providing information available to everyone, should be required to use https. The web is too focused on e-commerce, where

Re: [ccp4bb] HKL to mtz

2017-10-05 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 10/05/2017 11:01 PM, ameya benz wrote: Hi, I want to convert HKL file to mtz. I tried using F2mtz but somehow the output mtz is not working. What parameters should I set during conversion. Or can anyone suggest alternative to F2mtz? regards, Ameya National chemical laboratory, Pune, India

Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD between superposed structures without moving

2017-08-28 Thread Edward A. Berry
Look at CCP4 "compar" By default it averages RMSD over all atoms in mainchain and sidechain of the residue, but if you first awk out only CA (or use pdbset to pick CA) foreach structure, the mainchain value will presumably be the Euclidian CA distance (This may require identical sequences, at

Re: [ccp4bb] weird diffraction pattern

2017-07-13 Thread Edward A. Berry
Thanks for spelling it out! Would that advice still hold if the mosaicity of the crystal is 0.7 degrees? (I know, I should go read the paper., but . . .) eab On 07/13/2017 03:00 PM, Gerard Bricogne wrote: Dear Gerd, I can assure you that I have no shares in Dectris nor any commecial

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmergicide Through Programming

2017-07-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
e. But when micro crystals only give off a handful of photons each before they die, low multiplicity might be all you have. -James Holton MAD Scientist On 7/7/2017 2:33 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: I think the confusion here is that the "multiplicity correction" is applied on each reflectio

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmergicide Through Programming

2017-07-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
I think the confusion here is that the "multiplicity correction" is applied on each reflection, where it will be an integer 2 or greater (can't estimate variance with only one measurement). You can only correct in an approximate way using using the average multiplicity of the dataset, since it

Re: [ccp4bb] RMSD between unaligned structures

2017-07-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
I second the use of LSQMAN. The command for calculating wo aligning appears to be: rmsd_calc (abbreviated rm). http://xray.bmc.uu.se/usf/lsqman_man.html#S59 If you have multiple chains, use the option "chain_mode original" before loading the pdb's to avoid renaming chains:

Re: [ccp4bb] preparing DL-Malic acid stock solution

2017-06-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
(di)Sodium D,L-malate is available from Sigma-Aldrich (# CDS023113) and probably dissolves to give a 3M solution which is slightly alkaline. If pK2 is 5.1, then an insignificant amt of malic acid should bring the pH down to 7 (If you have to add a significant amount, just add more water to dilute

Re: [ccp4bb] Problems with an exonuclease

2017-06-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 06/07/2017 10:46 AM, Bonsor, Daniel wrote: It will either be two things. DNA or residual Triton-X-100. Actually Triton X-100 absorbs more at 280 than 260 - in fact the hydroxyphenyl in TX-100 looks remarkably like tyrosine in RNase A. I long ago gave up hope of resolving triton from

Re: [ccp4bb] Conserved water

2017-06-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
Easiest way is to line up molecule pairs or chain pairs in COOT and see if there are equivalent waters. If the number of waters is too large to inspect manually, save the superposed structures to disk, grep out the waters from each into a separate files, and use a program like

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: 3D printing tools for molecular models

2017-05-22 Thread Edward A. Berry
That is beautiful! The pins-and-holes approach might be useful also for space-filling models of multi-subunit complexes- both for holding the subunits together, and in cases where one subunit partially encircles another, the subunit would be sliced in half and pins could hold the halves

Re: [ccp4bb] Revise Your Structure Without Changing the PDB Accession Code and Related Changes to the FTP Archive

2017-05-17 Thread Edward A. Berry
Couple of wuestions: What is the procedure for updating an entry? Start a new submission, or mail revised coordinates along with an explanation of changes to deposit@rcsb? "unchanged experimental data" - does this mean the exact same structure factors, or will newly reduced data from the same

Re: [ccp4bb] peroxy-glutamate?

2017-05-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
Actually this is taken care of in the BIOMOLECULE definition. If the artist had used the principle biomolecule, it excludes the Fv fragments. On 05/09/2017 01:08 PM, Edward A. Berry wrote: In line with this, there are a number of pictures in the literature of the mitochondrial electron

Re: [ccp4bb] peroxy-glutamate?

2017-05-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
ation damage a subject of your manuscript), but this is going to lead to headaches for people who want to make use of the resulting coordinates to study the actual biology of your protein. Personally, I'd strongly prefer the latter approach. Tristan On 2017-05-09 16:06, Edward A.

Re: [ccp4bb] peroxy-glutamate?

2017-05-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
to study the actual biology of your protein. Personally, I'd strongly prefer the latter approach. Tristan On 2017-05-09 16:06, Edward A. Berry wrote: On 05/09/2017 06:18 AM, Ian Tickle wrote: We have seen almost identical density to Ed's for GLU side-chains, with what looks like a linear molecule (y

Re: [ccp4bb] peroxy-glutamate?

2017-05-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 05/09/2017 06:18 AM, Ian Tickle wrote: We have seen almost identical density to Ed's for GLU side-chains, with what looks like a linear molecule (yes exactly the size of CO2!) where the carboxylate group would be and absolutely no density for the CG-CD bond. So it's indeed very tempting to

Re: [ccp4bb] peroxy-glutamate?

2017-05-04 Thread Edward A. Berry
at 100K). If the residual density is due to partial de-carboxylation, then I would have expected density for the CG-CD bond, which is not present (at your chosen contour level). Do many of your Glu side chains have the residual density? Best wishes, Andrew On 3 May 2017, at 22:19, Edward

Re: [ccp4bb] peroxy-glutamate?

2017-05-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 05/03/2017 02:46 PM, Gerard Bricogne wrote: Dear Ed, Have you considered the possibility that it could be a water stepping in to fill the void created by partial decarboxylation of the glutamate? That could be easily modelled, refined, and tested for its ability to flatten the

Re: [ccp4bb] peroxy-glutamate?

2017-05-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
than a zebra making your hoofprints?) Matthew Merski Crystallochemistry Laboratory Univ. of Warsaw On Wed, May 3, 2017 at 6:29 AM, Edward A. Berry <ber...@upstate.edu <mailto:ber...@upstate.edu>> wrote: I'm finishing up refinement of a 1.8A structure (R's 0.17, 0.20) , and among

Re: [ccp4bb] E.coli strain, knock-out for SDH/FR

2017-04-04 Thread Edward A. Berry
People who would know (and know whether such a strain would even be viable) are Gary Cecchini at UC San Francisco/VA and Bob Gennis at Univ of Illinois at Urbana. In case you are not already talking with them. It has been reported that an assembly factor (SDH5 or SDHE or SDHAF2) is required for

Re: [ccp4bb] protein precipitation reg

2017-03-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 03/30/2017 08:10 AM, mesters wrote: If the pI of the protein is below the pH of the buffer (net negatively charged protein), optimum stabilization (salting out; lower solubility) of the macromolecule is achieved by combining a kosmotropic anion with a chaotropic cation, e.g.

Re: [ccp4bb] software or tool for Individual residue in a Ramachandran plot graph?

2017-03-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
Thanks! On 03/25/2017 03:36 PM, Paul Emsley wrote: On 24/03/2017 03:39, Alex Lee wrote: Dear All, Is there a tool or software which can give Ramachandran information of individual residues in a plot? I used Coot to check for Ramachandran plots, but it shows all the residues in a coordinate

Re: [ccp4bb] software or tool for Individual residue in a Ramachandran plot graph?

2017-03-24 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 03/23/2017 11:39 PM, Alex Lee wrote: Dear All, Is there a tool or software which can give Ramachandran information of individual residues in a plot? I used Coot to check for Ramachandran plots, but it shows all the residues in a coordinate I put in Coot, not individual one. I also use

Re: [ccp4bb] making a paper model

2017-03-09 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 03/09/2017 11:45 AM, Alice Dawson (Staff) wrote: you can find a paper model of GFP at the RCSB PDB https://cdn.rcsb.org/pdb101/learn/resources/gfp-model.pdf Hmm- that seems to involve quite a bit of cut-and-pasting too - or rather cut-and taping! 2D topology diagrams are really

Re: [ccp4bb] CM Sephadex C50

2017-02-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
Yes, CM-Sephadex expands and contracts incredibly. For other than batch methods you will be much better using CM-Sepharose. I guess it is cross-linked sepharose, and doesn't swell up much even in distilled water. What is happening is the negative charges of the carboxy groups repel each other,

Re: [ccp4bb] advances in multisubunit membrane protein

2017-02-03 Thread Edward A. Berry
Speaking specifically for succinate dehydrogenase, there are a number of assembly factors required for insertion of flavin, iron-sulfur clusters (SDHAF1,2,3 . . .). Since E. coli or Pischia make their own SDH, there is a possibility the endogenous assembly factors and co-factors would work with

Re: [ccp4bb] intermolecular dissulphides

2017-02-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
Does this count as an example? grep SSBOND /a/pdb/pdb4e9m.ent SSBOND 1 CYS A 39CYS B 39 1555 1555 2.05 SSBOND 2 CYS C 39CYS D 39 1555 1555 2.04 SSBOND 3 CYS E 39CYS F 39 1555 1555

Re: [ccp4bb] !SPAM: [ccp4bb] secondary structure assignment to PDB file

2017-01-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
As I understood the problem, it is that automatic assignment comes out differently for different structures of the same protein or proteins so close that they should have the same secondary structure, due to differences in quality of the structures. The question then is not how to determine

Re: [ccp4bb] Unknown electron density blob, pdb convention for partially ordered ligands

2017-01-25 Thread Edward A. Berry
Uma's use of quotes around "di" suggests a related question about PDB convention. It was my (perhaps not very good) understanding that ligands should be identified by what is actually present in the crystal, and not by what can be modeled. For example endogenous ubiquinone is likely to be UQ50

Re: [ccp4bb] help with Buccaneer

2017-01-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
When faced with a program requiring HL coefficients, and having phases from a (partial) model, I used to run a ccp4 program called sigmaa to generate the HL coefficients. I'm not sure if this is theoretically a good idea, but at least it allows the program to run. On 01/19/2017 11:10 PM, Vikram

Re: [ccp4bb] Effects of Multiplicity and Fine Phi with Equivalent Count Numbers

2016-11-30 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 11/30/2016 10:16 PM, Keller, Jacob wrote: If you fine slice and everything is then a partial, isn't that *more* sensitive to lack of synchronization between the shutter and rotation axis than the wide-frame method where there's a larger proportion of fulls that don't approach the frame

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: AW: AW: [ccp4bb] confusing crystal diffraction

2016-11-17 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 11/17/2016 08:36 AM, herman.schreu...@sanofi.com wrote: Dear Shijun, The reject.hkl file is the file with all rejected reflections. The first three numbers are h, k and l. For the other items you have to consult the HKL manual. As I said, I am not familiar with HKL2000. However, in your

Re: [ccp4bb] just out of totally idle curiosity ...

2016-11-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
What about China? Singapore? On 11/09/2016 12:45 AM, Tom Peat wrote: I don't know about Europe, but it is very tight Down Under... -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of William G. Scott Sent: Wednesday, 9 November 2016 4:38 PM To:

Re: [ccp4bb] determine NCS operators from PDB coordinates

2015-07-07 Thread Edward A. Berry
, Tobias. On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 4:54 PM, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote: A number of superposition programs allow to superimpose specified atoms (such as CA). Once you get the operator, comparing two different operators is not a job

Re: [ccp4bb] topdraw

2015-07-05 Thread Edward A. Berry
I think it is part of ccp4: $CCP4/bin/topdraw On 07/05/2015 10:30 AM, Faisal Tarique wrote: Dear all Can anybody provide me the link to download or install TopDraw a topology drawing interface in CCP4..? Thanks -- Regards Faisal School of Life Sciences JNU

Re: [ccp4bb] paired refinement

2015-07-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
Another criterion for cutoff, also requiring the structure to be solved, is the agreement between data and structure, e.g. Rfree or CCfree. I think it is very unlikely that you could get Rfree =.2493 in a shell which contains only noise. So I would suggest doing paired refinement to 2.2 and 2.1 A

Re: [ccp4bb] paired refinement

2015-07-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
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Re: [ccp4bb] paired refinement

2015-07-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
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Re: [ccp4bb] [Fwd: Re: [ccp4bb] FW: New ligand 3-letter code (help-7071)]

2015-06-21 Thread Edward A. Berry
I can't imagine a journal doing that can you? When I work on my supplementary material in a paper I don't expect that the journal will take a bit out and publish it separately to support the work of my competitors. Not out of spite that I was beaten - but because I don't want to take the

Re: [ccp4bb] FW: New ligand 3-letter code (help-7071)

2015-06-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
You raise some good points, but as far as better confidentiality pre-publication goes. unreleased entries are not secret in any case- if the second group is at all nervous about competition, they will be searching the unreleased entries database

Re: [ccp4bb] determine NCS operators from PDB coordinates

2015-06-19 Thread Edward A. Berry
A number of superposition programs allow to superimpose specified atoms (such as CA). Once you get the operator, comparing two different operators is not a job for a conventional superposition program, since you are superimposing a line on a line which has the extra degree of freedom- rotation

Re: [ccp4bb] New ligand 3-letter code

2015-06-06 Thread Edward A. Berry
Neat! It's true the PDB will choose a unique code for you, but they will use what you supply if it is already unique, and it is nice to be able to choose something that can help you remember what it stands for. Gone are the days when we could choose meaningfull pdb ID's (like 1PRC, 2PRC, 3PRC etc

Re: [ccp4bb] How many is too many free reflections?

2015-06-04 Thread Edward A. Berry
In other words, the free set for each complex must be such that reflections that are also present in the apo dataset retain the FreeR flag they had in that dataset. A very easy way to achieve this- generate a complete dataset to ridiculously high resolution with the cell of your crystal, and

Re: [ccp4bb] crystal habit/morphology and the relationship to unit cell contents

2015-06-01 Thread Edward A. Berry
Is it possible to distinguish P64 from P62 without having basically solved the structure? Given that it is P64, is the +ive direction of the c axis arbitrary? A left-hand helix is left hand either way you point it, and the molecules in the asymmetric units could be pointing the opposite way.

Re: [ccp4bb] Two kinds of solvent-accessible-surface ?

2015-05-15 Thread Edward A. Berry
- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Edward A. Berry Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 3:08 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Two kinds of solvent-accessible-surface ? If I remember correctly, there are two different ways to calculate a surface by rolling

Re: [ccp4bb] [phenixbb] how to generate an isomorphous difference map

2015-05-12 Thread Edward A. Berry
: Good points. But also, the traditional isomorphous difference map is not as susceptible to model bias issues compared to a real space difference map (or a vector isomorphous difference map). On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.edu mailto:ber...@upstate.edu wrote

Re: [ccp4bb] Graphic for rotation about axis

2015-05-08 Thread Edward A. Berry
Thanks, these are great! I installed the ttf font on a windows box, and the symbols are available in MSWord and Photoshop (and presumably powerpoint and everything else). No more designing my own symbols in photoshop! eab On 05/08/2015 02:43 PM, Mooers, Blaine H.M. (HSC) wrote: Hi Nick,

Re: [ccp4bb] Alexander Rich passed away Monday April 27, 2015

2015-05-02 Thread Edward A. Berry
On 05/02/2015 12:23 PM, Imre Berger wrote: Dear Edward - Would you be so kind and explain why you went ahead to post that comment about Alex Rich on CCP4, in a thread which announced the sad news of his passing away? Yes- I realized after posting it that it was inappropriate. If there is any

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