Re: [ccp4bb] extracting PHENIX structures

2015-01-25 Thread Nat Echols
On Sun, Jan 25, 2015 at 12:25 AM, Kay Diederichs kay.diederi...@uni-konstanz.de wrote: Here, I subtracted the Phenix and Refmac entries from the total Phenix count, because it seems likely that Phenix was used for other purposes than refinement. Actually, based on my skimming of methods

Re: [ccp4bb] chloride or water

2015-01-21 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 10:17 AM, Keller, Jacob kell...@janelia.hhmi.org wrote: I see your point about not knowing that it’s a chloride, but I think you would agree that it is certainly more likely a chloride than map-noise, and perhaps more likely than water as well. Would you agree that

Re: [ccp4bb] chloride or water

2015-01-21 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:16 AM, Engin Özkan eoz...@uchicago.edu wrote: Carbon in chloride's coordination sphere? To me, it looks like you have serious vdW violations, and neither water nor chloride could go there. Halides can interact with carbon too - discussed in Dauter Dauter (2001) -

Re: [ccp4bb] chloride or water

2015-01-21 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:05 AM, Keller, Jacob kell...@janelia.hhmi.org wrote: Not sure why there is this level of suspicion about the poor halide when waters generally get assigned so haphazardly. I would say that there are probably more “wrong” waters in the PDB than wrong chlorides, but

Re: [ccp4bb] chloride or water

2015-01-21 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Keller, Jacob kell...@janelia.hhmi.org wrote: I think this will probably never happen, but maybe there could be a confidence value associated with each atom in structures a posteriori, although it might be difficult to find the right automatable criteria

Re: [ccp4bb] 3 letter code for pyridoxine

2014-12-31 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Dec 31, 2014 at 10:11 AM, Faisal Tarique faisaltari...@gmail.com wrote: I request you to please tell me the three letter code for pyridoxine.. You can find the appropriate residue code for any molecule previously deposited in the PDB - which includes pyridoxine - by simply searching

Re: [ccp4bb] unknown densities

2014-12-08 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 7:24 PM, Keller, Jacob kell...@janelia.hhmi.org wrote: FYI, sometimes native nucleotides can make it through protein purifications if binding is tight. This is especially true for G-proteins, since tight binding to GDP is an essential part of their function. I don't

Re: [ccp4bb] Consensus on modeling unidentifiable lipids and detergents in membrane protein structures?

2014-11-06 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 5:20 PM, Oliver Clarke oc2...@columbia.edu wrote: I wonder if a solution might be to create new residues containing alkyl chains of various lengths, named something like U01, U02, U(n), where N is the length of the alkyl chain that fits the density. Sort of similar to

Re: [ccp4bb] water at the same exactly position

2014-10-29 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Oct 29, 2014 at 8:53 PM, luzuok luzuo...@126.com wrote: I think it is better for COOT to solve this issue. Coot already can be used to solve this issue - I think the automation is somewhat lacking, but it's vastly preferable to anything involving a text editor or shell commands.

Re: [ccp4bb] R/Rfree gap with pseudotranslational symmetry

2014-09-26 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 8:17 PM, Kimberly Stanek kas...@virginia.edu wrote: Before refinement in phenix the R/Rfree gap is rather small, however even after one round of refinement I am finding that this gap increases to almost 0.06. I have a feeling that the high symmetry present has

Re: [ccp4bb] Problem regarding twin detection and refinement

2014-09-18 Thread Nat Echols
The tests that output twinning fractions are *not* diagnostic for twinning; they merely estimate what the twin fraction would be if the data were in fact twinned, which can only be decided on the basis of abnormal intensity statistics. (Any version of Xtriage since July should state this more

Re: [ccp4bb] Coot - way to move the center pointer to a specific x,y,z coordinate?

2014-09-09 Thread Nat Echols
In Python scripting (Calculate menu): set_rotation_centre(x, y, z) I assume there's a Scheme equivalent. -Nat On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Alejandro Virrueta alejandro.virru...@yale.edu wrote: Does anyone knowhow to move the center pointer to a specific x,y,z coordinate? Or to place

Re: [ccp4bb] Reliable criteria to tell Anomalous or not?

2014-09-04 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 4:05 PM, CPMAS Chen cpmas...@gmail.com wrote: Do you guys have some recommendation of the criteria? phenix reported anomalous measurability, CCP4/aimless has RCRanom. Sometimes, they are not consistent. The measurability isn't always useful - it's definitely correlated

Re: [ccp4bb] random half data sets

2014-08-13 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Aug 12, 2014 at 10:28 PM, Keller, Jacob kell...@janelia.hhmi.org wrote: A somewhat similar question, with a quick answer I hope: when programs output CC's of 1/2 datasets, are several random halvings compared/averaged, and if not, does this make a difference, or are the scores so

Re: [ccp4bb] correlated alternate confs - validation?

2014-07-23 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 3:25 AM, MARTYN SYMMONS martainn_oshioma...@btinternet.com wrote: The practice at the PDB after deposition used to be to remove water alternate position indicators - although obviously to keep their partial occupancies. This has not been my experience - see for

Re: [ccp4bb] Proper detwinning?

2014-07-09 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Chris Fage cdf...@gmail.com wrote: Despite modelling completely into great electron density, Rwork/Rfree stalled at ~38%/44% during refinement of my 2.0-angstrom structure (P212121, 4 monomers per asymmetric unit). Xtriage suggested twinning, with |L| = 0.419,

Re: [ccp4bb] twin or untwinned

2014-07-04 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 7:50 AM, Nat Echols nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Dirk Kostrewa kostr...@genzentrum.lmu.de wrote: yes - unfortunately, in my hands, phenix.xtriage reads the XDS_ASCII.HKL intensities as amplitudes, producing very different output

Re: [ccp4bb] twin or untwinned

2014-07-03 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Jul 3, 2014 at 6:53 AM, Dirk Kostrewa kostr...@genzentrum.lmu.de wrote: yes - unfortunately, in my hands, phenix.xtriage reads the XDS_ASCII.HKL intensities as amplitudes, producing very different output statistics, compared both to the XDS statistics and to an mtz file with amplitudes

Re: [ccp4bb] Lysine coordinated ions

2014-07-01 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 3:10 PM, Katherine Sippel katherine.sip...@gmail.com wrote: My google-fu has failed me once again so I am turning to the collective knowledge of the bb. I'm working on a blobology challenge at the moment and have hit a wall. Is anyone aware of an ion that coordinates to

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB Storage of Diffraction Images

2014-05-16 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:12 AM, esse...@helix.nih.gov wrote: Short of storing images, which is the ultimate preservation of primary information, I have always been puzzled by the fact that the PDB only stores unique reflections i.e. no Friedel pairs even when provided. Is this outdated

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB passes 100,000 structure milestone

2014-05-15 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 9:53 AM, Patrick Shaw Stewart patr...@douglas.co.uk wrote: It seems to me that the Wikipedia mechanism works wonderfully well. One rule is that you can't make assertions yourself, only report pre-existing material that is attributable to a reliable published source.

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB passes 100,000 structure milestone

2014-05-15 Thread Nat Echols
as unreliable since a misconduct investigation by the University of Alabama at Birmingham has concluded that it was, more likely than not, faked [1] [1] http://www.nature.com/news/2009/091222/full/462970a.html On 15 May 2014 18:00, Nat Echols nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, May 15

Re: [ccp4bb] PDB passes 100,000 structure milestone

2014-05-14 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:26 AM, Mark Wilson mwilso...@unl.edu wrote: Getting to Eric's point about an impasse, if the PDB will not claim the authority to safeguard the integrity of their holdings (as per their quoted statement in Bernhard's message below), then who can? I think this may in

Re: [ccp4bb] TER in PDB file

2014-05-13 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:20 PM, Felix Frolow mbfro...@post.tau.ac.ilwrote: Phenix does even more, it adds TER after ions and ligands, so again manual messing is needed. However they may have a jiffy to fix it. phenix.sort_hetatms will remove them for you, although why this problem was

Re: [ccp4bb] PyMol and Schrodinger

2014-04-23 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 8:43 AM, Cygler, Miroslaw miroslaw.cyg...@usask.cawrote: I have inquired at Schrodinger about the licensing for PyMol. I was surprised by their answer. The access to PyMol is only through a yearly licence. They do not offer the option of purchasing the software and

Re: [ccp4bb] metal ion coordination

2014-04-23 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 6:15 AM, World light bsub...@btk.fi wrote: This discussion is very informative to fresher like me. Moreover, with most of the reading suggested in this discussion I read about the positively charged metal ions like Na, Ca, Mg and many more. I am curious about Cl in

Re: [ccp4bb] anomalous signal for Mg and Calcium

2014-04-21 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 3:36 PM, Faisal Tarique faisaltari...@gmail.comwrote: Just in the continuation of my previous mail i again want to ask few question on the metalloprotiens..Apart from factors like occupancy, B factor, coordination sphere and metal ion-ligand distances to distinguish Mg

Re: [ccp4bb] EDS server - R-value

2014-04-04 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 1:57 AM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: A more up-to-date reason is that programs calculate R values very differently. If you take a PDB file refined with program X and put it into program Y you easily get discrepancies greater than 5%. This is actually

Re: [ccp4bb] EDS server - R-value

2014-04-04 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 9:36 AM, Alastair Fyfe af...@ucsc.edu wrote: The topic brings up a question that I've been wondering about for some time, perhaps someone can enlighten me. Why is it not standard practice to deposit map coefficients along with structure factors ? Unlike image

Re: [ccp4bb] EDS server - R-value

2014-04-04 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Apr 4, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Alastair Fyfe af...@ucsc.edu wrote: Reconstructing the refinement may be necessary in some cases but there are other applications (pdb-wide map statistics, development of map analysis tools, quick model vs map checks) where access to the depositor's final map

Re: [ccp4bb] Add an atom in Coot

2014-03-18 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 6:59 PM, Remie Fawaz-Touma remiefa...@gmail.comwrote: how do you place the pointer if there is no bond there? (just density) I am trying to connect 2 sugars creating 2 bonds to one oxygen that I have to add (oxygen does not exist now). On my Mac, I can change the

Re: [ccp4bb] Validity of Ion Sites in PDB

2014-03-06 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:45 AM, Keller, Jacob kell...@janelia.hhmi.orgwrote: I was curious whether there has been a rigorous evaluation of ion binding sites in the structures in the pdb, by PDB-REDO or otherwise. I imagine that there is a considerably broad spectrum of habits and rigor in

Re: [ccp4bb] Table in NSMB

2014-02-18 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 8:19 AM, Jan van Agthoven janc...@gmail.com wrote: I'm filling out my table for NSMB, about a structure of protein ligand bound to a receptor. They ask for 3 different lines regarding number of atoms bfactor. 1) Protein 2) Ligand/Ion 3) Water. Does my protein ligand

Re: [ccp4bb] Sister CCPs

2014-02-13 Thread Nat Echols
One comment (not a complaint) on all this: it seems like the same questions get asked over and over again. If there is a good place for a general crystallography FAQ list it is well past time for one to be put together - or maybe it just needs to be better advertised? At a minimum, for instance:

Re: [ccp4bb] Cryo solution for crystals grown in magnesium formate

2013-12-16 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Dec 16, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Xiao, Junyu jx...@mail.ucsd.edu wrote: Dear all, sorry if this topic does not interest you. I wonder whether anyone has experience with freezing crystals grown in ~0.2 M Magnesium Formate. Garman and Mitchell suggested that A major anomaly is solution 44, 0.2

Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-11-06 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 12:39 AM, Bernhard Rupp hofkristall...@gmail.comwrote: Hmmm….does that mean that the journals are now the ultimate authority of what stays in the PDB? I find this slightly irritating and worthy of change. http://www.wwpdb.org/UAB.html It is the current wwPDB

Re: [ccp4bb] Comparison of Water Positions across PDBs

2013-11-05 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 12:22 AM, Bernhard Rupp hofkristall...@gmail.comwrote: Given their otherwise almost paranoid sensitivity to ultimate author authority (resulting in things like still having 2hr0 etc in the bank because certain authors go AWOL or ignore major issues) In defense of the

Re: [ccp4bb] MacBook Pro graphics card options

2013-10-23 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 1:10 PM, Kristin Low kristin@queensu.ca wrote: I’m looking at upgrading my current laptop to a newer MacBook Pro. I’m torn as to whether I need integrated vs discrete graphics for structural biology, including molecular modelling, especially since the latest

Re: [ccp4bb] Problematic PDBs

2013-10-17 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Lucas lucasbleic...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder if there's a list of problematic structures somewhere that I could use for that practice? Apart from a few ones I'm aware of because of (bad) publicity, what I usually do is an advanced search on PDB for entries

Re: [ccp4bb] OT: Who's Afraid of Peer Review?

2013-10-10 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 6:56 PM, Marco Lolicato chimbio...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway, for those reasons and more, I was wondering if maybe is nowadays needed to revisit the peer-review process. Apologies for the lengthy response, but I really do think the current publication system is broken,

Re: [ccp4bb] השב: [ccp4bb] Why nobody comments about the Nobel committee decision?

2013-10-09 Thread Nat Echols
Levitt also contributed to DEN refinement (Schroder et al. 2007, 2010). -Nat On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 2:29 PM, Boaz Shaanan bshaa...@bgu.ac.il wrote: Good point. Now since you mentioned contributions of the recent Nobel laureates to crystallography Mike Levitt also had a significant

Re: [ccp4bb] Rmerge of the last shell is zero

2013-08-14 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Edward A. Berry ber...@upstate.eduwrote: If you refine once in phenix you can use phenix.cc_star to calculate cc* and compare with R and R-free; from the output mtz file and your unmerged .sca file. FYI, this should also work with structures refined in

Re: [ccp4bb] mmCIF as working format?

2013-08-07 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 12:54 PM, James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com wrote: All that needs to happen is that the community agree on 1. What is the finite set of essential/useful attributes of macromolecular structural data. 2. What is the syntax of (a) accessing and (b) modifying those

Re: [ccp4bb] mmCIF as working format?

2013-08-07 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 2:36 PM, James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com wrote: Although it is likely the best library for working with structural data, CCTBX requires a loop just to change a specific chain ID (to the best of my knowledge): ... I don't intend to pick on CCTBX specifically (because

Re: [ccp4bb] mmCIF as working format?

2013-08-05 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 11:11 AM, Phil Jeffrey pjeff...@princeton.eduwrote: While alternative programs exist to do almost everything I prefer something that works well, works quickly, and provides instant visual feedback. CCP4 and Phenix are stuck in a batch processing paradigm that I don't

Re: [ccp4bb] mmCIF as working format?

2013-08-05 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 12:37 PM, Boaz Shaanan bshaa...@bgu.ac.il wrote: There seems to be some kind of a gap between users and developers as far the eagerness to abandon PDB in favour of mmCIF. I myself fully agree with Jeffrey about the ease of manipulating PDB's during work, particularly

Re: [ccp4bb] Where to cut the data in this medium resolution dataset

2013-07-22 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 10:19 AM, Stefan Gajewski sgajew...@gmail.comwrote: The maps shows signs of over fitting, the B-factors do not look correct in my opinion. What do correct B-factors look like? What refinement strategy did you use for them? Note that the R-free value in the 3.4A

Re: [ccp4bb] Refinement of partly occupied water molecules

2013-07-12 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Jul 12, 2013 at 1:08 AM, Stefan Krimmer krim...@staff.uni-marburg.de wrote: in some of my macromolecular crystal structures with resolutions between 1.1 - 1.4 Å, several round positive Fo-Fc electron density blobs are detectable which show after assignment of a water molecule to these

Re: [ccp4bb] ctruncate bug?

2013-06-22 Thread Nat Echols
On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 3:18 PM, Frank von Delft frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk wrote: In what scenarios would these improved estimates make a significant difference? Perhaps datasets where a unusually large number of reflections are very weak, for instance where TNCS is present, or where the

Re: [ccp4bb] Concerns about statistics

2013-06-13 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Jun 13, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Andrea Edwards edwar...@stanford.eduwrote: I have some rather (embarrassingly) basic questions to ask. Mainly.. when deciding the resolution limit, which statistics are the most important? I have always been taught that the highest resolution bin should be

Re: [ccp4bb] Extracting .pdb info with python

2013-06-06 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Jun 7, 2013 at 8:37 AM, Pete Meyer pame...@mcw.edu wrote: On the other hand, programming an implementation of something is a good way to make sure that you really understand it - even if you end up using another program. I would argue that it's not really necessary to understand the

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: PDB statistics

2013-04-15 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 11:47 AM, James Holton jmhol...@lbl.gov wrote: However, I'm sure the day is not far off when phenix.refine or the like will check if the starting R factor is too high and just automatically invoke a run of MR to see if something clicks. I think the latest Phaser code

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Update victim of own success

2013-04-12 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:27 AM, James Holton jmhol...@lbl.gov wrote: But, when it comes to GUIs, I have always found them counterproductive. In my humble opinion, the purpose of computers and other machines is to DO work for me, not create work for me, and I already have enough buttons to

Re: [ccp4bb] CCP4 Update victim of own success

2013-04-12 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Boaz Shaanan bshaa...@exchange.bgu.ac.ilwrote: Whichever way the input file for the run is prepared (via GUI or command line), anybody who doesn't inspect the log file at the end of the run is doomed and bound to commit senseless errors. I was taught a long

Re: [ccp4bb] delete subject

2013-03-28 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 11:28 AM, mjvdwo...@netscape.net wrote: Although it is hard to imagine, there could be a mechanism by which you make all your data public, immediately when you get it and this public record shows who owns it. http://deposit.rcsb.org (or international equivalent) The

Re: [ccp4bb] Need specific molecular replacement test cases

2013-03-08 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Raji Edayathumangalam r...@brandeis.edu wrote: I am looking for two specific test cases (below) and appreciate anyone pointing me to known structures/examples for the same. (1) For a successful case of molecular replacement in which the search model has an

Re: [ccp4bb] How to slow down crystallization? Need hep!

2013-02-25 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 8:02 AM, lei feng spartanfeng...@hotmail.com wrote: I need your suggestion for slowing down crystallization for my protein my protein got hit in PEG/ION #5 ( 0.2 M MgCl2, 20% PEG 3350, pH 5.9), but it crystallize too fast. In 1 hr I can see tons of tiny needles. Can

Re: [ccp4bb] Improving Homology Models

2013-02-20 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 12:39 PM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: it has been my experience that homology modelling programs get folds pretty well, but sometimes the details are pretty obviously bad, like too-close contacts. One might think that the modelling software would

Re: [ccp4bb] protein crystals or salt crystals

2013-02-07 Thread Nat Echols
If SPG buffer is what I think it is, that means you have a significant concentration of inorganic phosphate, which forms salt crystals when mixed with divalent metal ions. -Nat On Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:24 PM, amro selem amro_selem2...@yahoo.com wrote: Hallo my colleagues. i hope every one

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: Strange Density

2013-02-04 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 12:24 PM, Roger Rowlett rrowl...@colgate.edu wrote: It's possibly a transition metal ion. Zinc is a common adventitious contaminant of solutions. Typical Zn-O distances (tetrahedral or pseudo-tetrahedral coordination) are 2.0 A. ICP-OES or ICP-MS of the protein solution

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: DSSP

2013-01-28 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:04 AM, Antony Oliver antony.oli...@sussex.ac.uk wrote: If you don't mind using the ksDSSP implementation, it is already installed with the phenix suite if you have it. Correct, but although the method is supposed to be the same, the output is not, and there are bugs

Re: [ccp4bb] off topic: DSSP

2013-01-28 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Jan 28, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Robbie Joosten robbie_joos...@hotmail.com wrote: DSSP recently went open source with a very liberal license. So you can consider using the real DSSP now. This may also be the moment to integrate DSSP in CCP4. Based on the info here:

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac5 vs phenix refine mixed up

2013-01-25 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 2:24 AM, Robbie Joosten robbie_joos...@hotmail.com wrote: Phenix however needs to deal with the CCP4 type reflection binning. Now the size of the sets cannot be used which means that you have find a smarter solution. So I wonder how this is implemented. Does Phenix use

Re: [ccp4bb] refmac5 vs phenix refine mixed up

2013-01-24 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 10:34 AM, Leonid Sazanov saza...@mrc-mbu.cam.ac.uk wrote: Most likely scenario is that Phenix by default assigns Rfree flag as 1, while ccp4/refmac - as 0. That would explain your Rfree going down - because your Rfree reflections were refined by refmac. According to

Re: [ccp4bb] B-factors

2013-01-24 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 3:52 PM, Urmi Dhagat udha...@svi.edu.au wrote: If Rfree reflections are refined my refmac upon switching from phenix to refmac then does this contaminate the Rfree set ? Should swiching between refinement programs Phenix and Refmac be avoided? Repeating what was said

Re: [ccp4bb] Mac mini advice

2013-01-22 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:59 AM, Cara Vaughan c.vaug...@mail.cryst.bbk.ac.uk wrote: I've seen from the archive that some people do use the Mac Mini for crystallography and I've got two questions: 1. Do I need the Quad core or is a Dual core processor enough? You can survive with the dual, but

Re: [ccp4bb] Mac mini advice

2013-01-22 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 10:05 PM, James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com wrote: On Mac v. Linux where calculations come secondary to office-type calculations, you have to weigh your level of vendor lock-in. Do you run Libreoffice or Microsoft Office? Inkscape or Illustrator? Gimp or Photoshop?

Re: [ccp4bb] how many metal sites

2013-01-16 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Roger Rowlett rrowl...@colgate.edu wrote: When you are a building a metalloenzyme model you should really have some solid evidence that a metal ion is present by (1) inclusion in the crystallization medium, (2) direct determination by an analytical technique,

Re: [ccp4bb] a challenge

2013-01-14 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 11:18 AM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: I admit not having read all contributions to this thread. I understand the John Henry Challenge as whether there is an 'automated way of producing a model from impossible.mtz'. From looking at it and without having

Re: [ccp4bb] Fwd: Re: [ccp4bb] Convert cbf to png/tiff?

2013-01-11 Thread Nat Echols
Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Convert cbf to png/tiff? Date: Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:47:21 -0800 From: Nat Echols nathaniel.ech...@gmail.com To: Frank von Delft frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk Using any recent Phenix distribution: labelit.png file_name For reasons unknown

Re: [ccp4bb] About NCS and inhibitors

2013-01-07 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:28 AM, Xiaopeng Hu huxp...@mail.sysu.edu.cn wrote: We recently resolved an enzyme/inhibitor complex structure. The enzyme contains two NCS related active site and we did find extra density in both of them.However we observed that the two inhbitor moleculors are not

Re: [ccp4bb] Acceptable Clash Score

2012-11-08 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Nov 8, 2012 at 12:20 AM, Mark J van Raaij mjvanra...@cnb.csic.es wrote: Depends on what you call a solved structure. For deposition to the pdb ideally there should be very little clashes like Nat writes. But perhaps you are referring to the clash score just after molecular

Re: [ccp4bb] Acceptable Clash Score

2012-11-07 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Meisam Nosrati meisam.nosr...@gmail.com wrote: I want to know what is considered an acceptable Clash Score for a solved structure. The recommendation from MolProbity is less than 10. If you have low-resolution data and don't have a high-resolution starting

Re: [ccp4bb] how to find and add water molecules in electron density map in coot??

2012-11-06 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 12:06 PM, saleem raza mysaleemr...@hotmail.com wrote: I have to put water molecules in my model but It's difficult to judge that electron density is for water of something else. How to differentiate How the electron density look like for metal ions like Ca and Na???

Re: [ccp4bb] Ca or Zn

2012-10-30 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 12:12 PM, Jim Pflugrath jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com wrote: How would you distinguish between a mixture of Ca and Zn in the same locations? How often would they be likely to bind in the same place? Some of the other transition metals are difficult to tell apart, but Ca and

Re: [ccp4bb] Convention on residue numbering of fusion proteins?

2012-10-23 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Meindert Lamers mlam...@mrc-lmb.cam.ac.uk wrote: Is there any convention on the numbering of residues in a fusion protein? I have a structure of two domains fused together but would like to keep the biological numbering intact. 1st domain: residue 200-300

Re: [ccp4bb] Etiquette on publishing if there is a crystallization report from someone else.

2012-09-25 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Sep 25, 2012 at 6:51 AM, Tim Gruene t...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de wrote: I would assume that someone who publishes crystallisation conditions has given up solving the structure or some other reason to encourage others to pick up the project, i.e., no, I don't see much point NOT publishing

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: Best Scripting Language

2012-09-12 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 7:32 AM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: since this probably comes up a lot in manipulation of pdb/reflection files and so on, I was curious what people thought would be the best language for the following: I have some huge (100s MB) tables of

Re: [ccp4bb] Off-topic: Best Scripting Language

2012-09-12 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 12:49 PM, James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com wrote: Also, python (aka python 2) and python 3000 (aka python 3) are considered two different languages. It's not reasonable to consider them one language and then complain that they are incompatible. Python 3 was created as a

Re: [ccp4bb] Calculating I/sig when sig = 0

2012-08-23 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 10:44 AM, Jim Pflugrath jim.pflugr...@rigaku.com wrote: Singly-measured reflections should have a sigma from Poisson counting statistics, so that should not be a problem. A problem might occur if the X-ray background is exactly zero and the observed (sic) intensity is

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Jacob Keller j-kell...@fsm.northwestern.edu wrote: one. Are there any really reasonable arguments for preferring Mac over windows (or linux) with regard to crystallography? What can Mac/Linux do that windows cannot (especially considering that there is Cygwin)?

Re: [ccp4bb] Various OSes and Crystallography

2012-08-09 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Quentin Delettre q...@hotmail.fr wrote: I have seen that in the last Mac Os, X11 have been removed... But can still be used with some package installation. I guess it isn't distributed with the OS any more - but it is still available:

Re: [ccp4bb] Mac or PC?

2012-08-09 Thread Nat Echols
On Thu, Aug 9, 2012 at 12:52 PM, Lee, Ting Wai twlee.scie...@gmail.com wrote: May I ask a very general question? I am going to buy a laptop. I am going to do a lot of structural biology work on it using programs such as CCP4, Phenix, Coot and Pymol. Mac or PC, which is better? See this

Re: [ccp4bb] MR with Phaser

2012-08-01 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 11:27 AM, Uma Ratu rosiso2...@gmail.com wrote: The protein is in tetramer form. I define this by using the residue number (1332) which is 4 x monomer. After run, Phaser only gave 9 partial solutions, and no solution with all components. The resulted PDB contains only

Re: [ccp4bb] How to identify unknow heavy atom??

2012-07-24 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:14 AM, Haytham Wahba haytham_wa...@yahoo.com wrote: 1- if i have anomalous peak of unknown heavy atom, How can i identify this heavy atom in general. (different methods) 2- in my case, i see anomalous peak in heavy atom binding site (without any soaking).

Re: [ccp4bb] How to identify unknow heavy atom??

2012-07-24 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 10:33 AM, Ethan Merritt merr...@u.washington.edu wrote: As to the home source - no. Neither Cu nor Zn has appreciable anomalous signal when excited with a Cu K-alpha home source. http://www.bmsc.washington.edu/scatter An element's emission edge (Cu K-alpha in this

Re: [ccp4bb] Structure Refinement Program

2012-07-23 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Scott Foy s...@mail.umkc.edu wrote: We are computationally averaging several homologous protein structures into a single structure. This of course will lead to a single protein structure that possesses poor biophysical characteristics of bond lengths, bond

Re: [ccp4bb] harvesting in cold room (was: cryo for high salt crystal)

2012-07-13 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Jul 13, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Radisky, Evette S., Ph.D. radisky.eve...@mayo.edu wrote: Several have mentioned harvesting in the cold room to reduce evaporation. I used to do this also as a postdoc, but I worried whether I risked nitrogen gas poisoning from liquid N2 boil-off, since the cold

Re: [ccp4bb] Rfactors stuck very high

2012-07-08 Thread Nat Echols
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 2:11 PM, James Garnett j.garn...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: I have found a molecular replacement solution in I212121 using an NMR structure of the same protein and MR-ROSETTA/PHENIX (PHASER LLG=128 TFZ=12.3), although I can not refine this below R ~45% and Rfree ~50%. The

Re: [ccp4bb] help regarding structure solution

2012-06-20 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 11:13 AM, sonali dhindwal sonali11dhind...@yahoo.co.in wrote: I am working on a protein for last so many years and for which i have got crystal now in a tray which i kept 1 years ago. It diffracts well and resolution is 2.2A, which is good. I indexed in HKL2000,

Re: [ccp4bb] Model submission

2012-06-19 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 8:35 AM, RHYS GRINTER r.grinte...@research.gla.ac.uk wrote: There's no significant difference between the high res and low res proteins in the shared region (amino acid 38+) (r.m.s.d 0.46 A), and the while there is broken density for the first 38aa from the full length

Re: [ccp4bb] how to get phase of huge complex

2012-06-12 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Frank von Delft frank.vonde...@sgc.ox.ac.uk wrote: Finding 111 sites should be feasible without other tricks than very careful data collection (see below);  if you have two or more copies in the ASU, you may find you need to do what the ribosome guys did, namely

Re: [ccp4bb] metal modelling in coot

2012-05-05 Thread Nat Echols
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 2:23 PM, Pavel Afonine pafon...@gmail.com wrote: may be I'm missing something but I think all you need to do is to place (add to PDB file) a Zn2+ into a blob of density that you believe that Zn belongs to, and then most of refinement tools will take care of it

Re: [ccp4bb] Refmac executables - win vs linux in RHEL VM

2012-04-07 Thread Nat Echols
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 9:50 AM, Roger Rowlett rrowl...@colgate.edu wrote: I don't know the state of current software, because I haven't tried recently, but when I set up my student crystallography workstations a few years back I noticed many packages (e.g. EPMR, Phaser) that had potentially

Re: [ccp4bb] very informative - Trends in Data Fabrication

2012-04-02 Thread Nat Echols
On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Maria Sola i Vilarrubias msv...@ibmb.csic.es wrote: About a wrongly fit compound, the reviewer can ask images about the model in a map calculated at a specific sigma and in different orientations. This will often be insufficient, I'm afraid. We generally assume

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Nat Echols
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:29 PM, James Stroud xtald...@gmail.com wrote: How could they not be snapshots of conformations adopted in solution? Packing billions of copies of an irregularly-shaped protein into a compact lattice and freezing it to 100K isn't necessarily representative of solution,

Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots

2012-02-10 Thread Nat Echols
supporting the physiological crystal structures -Original Message- From: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK] On Behalf Of Nat Echols Sent: Friday, February 10, 2012 10:35 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Crystal Structures as Snapshots On Fri, Feb 10

Re: [ccp4bb] Soaking Kinase Crystals with ATP analogues

2012-02-01 Thread Nat Echols
On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Dianfan Li l...@tcd.ie wrote: I am working on a kinase and would like to get an ATP analogue into the crystals. When soaked with AMP-PCP, the kinase crystals crack in about 15 min at 4 C. This isn't too surprising; most kinases undergo global conformational

Re: [ccp4bb] New Faster-than-fast Fourier transform

2012-01-24 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 1:38 AM, Adam Ralph adam.ra...@nuim.ie wrote:    CUDA is a set of extensions for C which will allow you to access hardware accelerators (certain NVidia cards in this case). CUDA has been around for a while and there are CUDA libraries for FFT and BLAS.    I have not

Re: [ccp4bb] writing scripts-off topic

2012-01-24 Thread Nat Echols
On Tue, Jan 24, 2012 at 10:24 AM, Ian Tickle ianj...@gmail.com wrote: reassuring air of finality!  Maybe a Python expert will answer this but I've often wondered, what happens if as some editors do (particularly if as I do you have to use different editors at different times depending on where

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