[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Rfree below Rwork

2015-07-02 Thread Herman . Schreuder
@JISCMAIL.AC.UKmailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Rfree below Rwork Dear Boaz, One can equally well describe a R32 crystal with one molecule in the asymmetric unit as P1 and 6 molecules in the asymmetric unit. In this case, the NCS in P1 is identical to the crystallographic symmetry in R32

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Rfree below Rwork

2015-07-02 Thread Dirk Kostrewa
:* Wednesday, July 01, 2015 7:34 AM *To:* CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK *Subject:* [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Rfree below Rwork Dear Boaz, One can equally well describe a R32 crystal with one molecule in the asymmetric unit as P1 and 6 molecules in the asymmetric unit. In this case

Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Rfree below Rwork

2015-07-02 Thread Oganesyan, Vaheh
, July 02, 2015 10:03 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Rfree below Rwork Hi Herman and Boaz, in the trigonal setting R32 (not in the hexagonal setting H32), the unit cell in R32 contains 6 copies. If you take the whole R32 unit cell as a P1 cell, you would have 6

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2015-07-01 Thread Eleanor Dodson
I wasn't suggesting the space group was wrong - just a lower symmetry equivalent of the true SG. e.g. all structures can be solved in P1 but several of the molecules in the cell will be related by crystal symmetry operators. The same is true for the associated P1 intensities. So IF you had

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Rfree below Rwork

2015-07-01 Thread Herman . Schreuder
Dear Boaz, One can equally well describe a R32 crystal with one molecule in the asymmetric unit as P1 and 6 molecules in the asymmetric unit. In this case, the NCS in P1 is identical to the crystallographic symmetry in R32. Best, Herman Von: CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK]

[ccp4bb] AW: [ccp4bb] Rfree below Rwork

2015-07-01 Thread Herman . Schreuder
You should go back to the output you got during data processing to see which space groups had been proposed by the data processing software and reprocess in the correct space group. Alternative, you could use Zanuda (validate space group button in ccp4i) to find the correct space group. It