Re: [ccp4bb] Question about freeR tag

2008-01-24 Thread Eleanor Dodson
You know you can convert the CNS FreeRflags to the mtz file? Use Reflection utilities / convert to mtz and say you are inputted CNS / Xplor data Eleanor But I believe there is an inevitable difference between CNS and Refmac FreeRs - CNS scaled the work and free data seperately which for

[ccp4bb] Question about freeR tag

2008-01-23 Thread Zheng Zhou
Hi, All Could any tell me how CCP4 handle free R flag? I know It is important to select the same** FreeR reflections if I move to next step of refinement. But everytime I start from fresh, the freeR Flag remains unchanged. The Rwork and Rfree of my models are fine (20.7% and 22.9%). I thought

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about freeR tag

2008-01-23 Thread Zheng Zhou
Sorry that I didn't explain the situation clearly. I used only one output.sca file from HLK2000. I ran the scalepack2mtz (in CCP4i, data reduction, import merged data) several times, on both linux Fedora and window XP, the same computer though. For the next step refinement, I mean add H2O, ion,

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about freeR tag

2008-01-23 Thread Roger Rowlett
Zheng Zhou wrote: Hi, All Could any tell me how CCP4 handle free R flag? I know It is important to select the same** FreeR reflections if I move to next step of refinement. But everytime I start from fresh, the freeR Flag remains unchanged. The Rwork and Rfree of my models are fine ( 20.7%

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about freeR tag

2008-01-23 Thread Edwin Pozharski
FREEFLAG (the program which is used to generate the test set) description says when describing the keyword SEED: By default, for a given job on a given machine, the random number generator produces the same list of random free-R flags each time the job is run. Since you would generally only

Re: [ccp4bb] Question about freeR tag

2008-01-23 Thread Zheng Zhou
Thank you all for fast replying. The reason that I am trying to use a different set of FreeR flag from the very beginning of the refinement is that for some data set, my colleague's CNS refinement gave converged Rfree and R work, 3% difference. However both my CNS and CCP4 refinement gave a