Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage and image discard

2023-10-31 Thread Winter, Graeme (DLSLtd,RAL,LSCI)
Along similar lines, if you happen to be working in the DIALS ecosystem there is the dials.damage_analysis program, which takes the scaled data (scaled.expt, scaled.refl) and computes a number of statistics including Rd as discussed below, and the cumulative-pairwise R factor Rcp, which

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage and image discard

2023-10-31 Thread Harry Powell
Hi I’ve never actually used it in anger (one should never be angry when processing data…), but doesn’t AutoProc, developed by the good folks at Global Phasing do a lot of these analyses? Clemens, Claus etc may have something pertinent to say. Harry > On 30 Oct 2023, at 13:23, Jorge Iulek

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage and image discard

2023-10-30 Thread Kay Diederichs
Dear Jorge, the plots available from XDSGUI in the "statistics" tab are helpful in this respect (see https://journals.iucr.org/j/issues/2023/05/00/yr5110/index.html and in particular Fig 4). In particular, delta-CC1/2 and R_d are sensitive to radiation damage. Pls note that sometimes a few

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage and image discard

2023-10-30 Thread Oliver H . Weiergräber
Dear Jorge, If you are using XDS for data processing, XDSCC12 and XDSSTAT (developed by Kay Diederichs) provide very useful guidance as to where to truncate your dataset in the rotation dimension. In particular, have a look at the R_d metric provided by XDSSTAT. These analyses can also be

[ccp4bb] radiation damage and image discard

2023-10-30 Thread Jorge Iulek
Dear all, I have found many fundamental studies on image processing and refinement indexes concerning the decision on cutting resolution for a dataset, always meant to get better models, the final objective. Paired refinement has been a procedure mostly indicated. I have been searching

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure

2017-11-07 Thread Martin Malý
padu 2017 12:01:43 Komu: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Předmět: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure Dear colleagues, I am investigating a structure of a FAD-dependent enzyme. The electron density map suggests radiation damage to the FAD. It apparently is different from s

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure

2017-11-07 Thread Conn Mallett
<malym...@fjfi.cvut.cz> Reply-To: Martin Malý <malym...@fjfi.cvut.cz> Date: Tuesday, 7November, 2017 at 05:16 To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure Dear Ilme, thank you for your answer. We ar

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure

2017-11-07 Thread Martin Malý
, Martin Maly Od: Ilme Schlichting <ilme.schlicht...@mpimf-heidelberg.mpg.de> Odesláno: 6. listopadu 2017 12:38:17 Komu: Martin Malý Předmět: Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure Hello, Are you sure you had full occupancy to begin wit

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure

2017-11-06 Thread Gerard Bricogne
Dear Martin, A more bleeding-edge type of experiment in the vein David is indicating would be to use a "rotation SFX" protocol to record complete data off one or very few crystals that will be completely exempt from radiation damage, as described in doi:10.1038/nmeth.2962 and in doi:

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure

2017-11-06 Thread David Schuller
Some alternative interpretations have been suggested, but if you think you are seeing radiation damage, you could try collecting data on several crystals and binning it by dose received. For comparison see: The catalytic pathway of horseradish peroxidase at high resolution. Berglund, et al.

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure

2017-11-06 Thread Conn Mallett
..@fjfi.cvut.cz> Date: Monday, 6November, 2017 at 03:01 To: "CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK" <CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK> Subject: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure Dear colleagues, I am investigating a structure of a FAD-dependent enzyme. The electron density map su

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure

2017-11-06 Thread Claudia Binda
Dear Martin, we experienced the butterfly-like structure of FAD in monoamine oxidases but this was observed also in other flavoenzymes. Whether this is an intrinsic feature of these enzymes or something due to radation damage is not clear for each case. However, in our experience this bent

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure

2017-11-06 Thread Karl Gruber
Dear Martin, a couple of years ago we had a similar problem with FAD degradation. In our case it was not caused by radiation damage, but we saw different ratios of intact and degraded FAD depending on the age of the crystals [Winkler et al., Nat. Chem. Biol. 4, 739-741 (2008)]. Best

[ccp4bb] Radiation damage to the FAD in enzyme structure

2017-11-06 Thread Martin Malý
Dear colleagues, I am investigating a structure of a FAD-dependent enzyme. The electron density map suggests radiation damage to the FAD. It apparently is different from simple change of the redox state and "butterfly"-like structure. We did not find in literature possible products of

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage-induced phasing (RIP) tutorial

2017-05-02 Thread Phoebe A. Rice
of George Sheldrick [gshe...@shelx.uni-ac.gwdg.de] Sent: Saturday, April 29, 2017 2:14 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage-induced phasing (RIP) tutorial Dear Murpholino, I must apologize, there was a mistake in may last email. The critical parameter is, as you

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage-induced phasing (RIP) tutorial

2017-04-29 Thread George Sheldrick
Dear Murpholino, I must apologize, there was a mistake in may last email. The critical parameter is, as you correctly pointed out, DSCA not RIPW and it is necessary to try a range of values for DSCA. For this reason I am CCing this to CCP4bb. As you will be discovering, RIP phasing is not

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage-induced phasing (RIP) tutorial

2017-04-29 Thread Weiss, Manfred
, April 28, 2017 9:16 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage-induced phasing (RIP) tutorial That's more like a tutorial for XDS :P (thanks though) The problems: 1) It uses autorickshaw (which is a black box ...guess I'll read the paper today) ... and 2) my files were

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage-induced phasing (RIP) tutorial

2017-04-29 Thread George Sheldrick
Dear Murpholino, I suspect that the pipelines in CCP4i and CCP4i2 do not include RIP phasing (perhaps they should) but you can also run the SHELX programs from a command line since you don't like black boxes. SHELXC reads XDS_ASCII.HKL files and has some special facilities for RIP, you can

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage-induced phasing (RIP) tutorial

2017-04-28 Thread Murpholino Peligro
That's more like a tutorial for XDS :P (thanks though) The problems: 1) It uses autorickshaw (which is a black box ...guess I'll read the paper today) ... and 2) my files were not recognized (MTZ with proper labels ...even the XDS_ASCII.HKL files ). Is it working? Guess I'll try to contact the

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage-induced phasing (RIP) tutorial

2017-04-28 Thread Christian Roth
There was a tutorial for MX including UV RIP available from the HZB in Berlin (BESSY MX group). Have a look at there website. I'm sure it is still available, or maybe they can send you the files on request. Cheers Christian Am 28.04.2017 um 17:12 schrieb Murpholino Peligro: Hi lads... Do

[ccp4bb] radiation damage-induced phasing (RIP) tutorial

2017-04-28 Thread Murpholino Peligro
Hi lads... Do you know if there is a good tutorial for doing RIP somewhere on the internet? What programs can do RIP? -SHELX -AutoRickShaw -? Thanks

[ccp4bb] Radiation Damage in Macromolecular Crystallography: What is it and why do we care? Webinar

2012-09-20 Thread Angela Criswell
Dear colleagues, I would like to draw your attention to an upcoming free, educational webinar to be presented by Elspeth Garman, Ph. D. titled Radiation Damage in Macromolecular Crystallography: What is it and why do we care? Radiation damage inflicted during diffraction data collection in

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-05 Thread J. Preben Morth
. Preben On 04/10/2010, at 21.48, Jacob Keller wrote: - Original Message - From: Poul Nissen p...@mb.au.dk To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?) [1

[ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Francis E Reyes
Hi all I'm reading a recent review by Elspeth Garman regarding radiation damage (Acta Cryst D) and in this she mentions two ideas regarding metal centers: [1] They (The metal complexes themselves) are quickly reduced [2] Their absorption causes localized heating in the crystal. (This

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Phil Evans
The radiation damage with Ta6Br12 collected on the absorption edge is very severe. There may be a case for avoiding the edge wavelength for this reason Phil On 4 Oct 2010, at 17:28, Francis E Reyes wrote: Hi all I'm reading a recent review by Elspeth Garman regarding radiation damage

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Dunten, Pete W.
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 9:29 AM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?) Hi all I'm reading a recent review by Elspeth Garman regarding radiation damage (Acta Cryst D) and in this she mentions two ideas

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Poul Nissen
[1] the signal from Ta6Br12 is enormous and one will typically focus on low resolution (below 7 Å) so radiation sensitivity can be handled by a fairly low dose data collection We collected several data sets with Ta6Br12(2+) on the Na+,K+-ATPase (Morth JP et al. 2007) and found that although we

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Jacob Keller
- Original Message - From: Poul Nissen p...@mb.au.dk To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?) [1] the signal from Ta6Br12 is enormous and one will typically

Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage with crystals containing metal centers (TaBr people chime in?)

2010-10-04 Thread Poul Nissen
Two separate crystals, but very similar data collection strategies P On 04/10/2010, at 21.48, Jacob Keller wrote: - Original Message - From: Poul Nissen p...@mb.au.dk To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, October 04, 2010 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] Radiation damage

[ccp4bb] radiation damage

2010-02-04 Thread James Holton
I am pleased to announce that this year's ACA meeting (Chicago, IL, July 24-29, 2010) will include a return of the highly popular session on radiation damage. We all know that damage can be a problem, but the interesting developments over the last few years are that there are finally some

[ccp4bb] radiation damage

2009-02-27 Thread James Holton
As much as I hate to see the CCP4BB used for shameless self-promotion of articles, I did just publish a Beginner's Guide to Radiation Damage: http://journals.iucr.org/s/issues/2009/02/00/issconts.html My answers to Paul and Michael's posts would be cut-and-pasted from it, so I think it

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage

2009-02-27 Thread Gerard DVD Kleywegt
I even made the cover! And I hope that (after looking at the cover) all you BBers will forgive me just this once as this was clearly a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. Or, at least, I HOPE only once. Congratulations, James. But surely you could have found a better example of medical imaging?

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage

2009-02-27 Thread James Holton
Gerard DVD Kleywegt wrote: Congratulations, James. But surely you could have found a better example of medical imaging? For instance, here: http://www.ibeatyou.com/competition/867945/craziest-x-ray/entry/be24b3/coke-bottle --dvd Unfortunately, (unlike the infamous coke bottle image),

[ccp4bb] radiation damage question

2008-03-03 Thread Patrick Loll
Hi all, I had an interesting experience, and wonder if others have seen similar things. I was collecting data from a crystal that contains an iodinated macromolecule. After 2 days on a copper rotating anode, with the crystal at 100 K, we experienced a detector problem, so I put the

Re: [ccp4bb] radiation damage question

2008-03-03 Thread Philippe DUMAS
)3 88 41 70 02 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Message d'origine- De : CCP4 bulletin board [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Patrick Loll Envoye : Monday, March 03, 2008 6:00 PM A : CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Objet : [ccp4bb] radiation damage question Hi all, I had an interesting