Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-21 Thread Harsh Bansia
Respected All, Thanks for your valuable suggestions and inputs. with regards, Harsh On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:38 AM, Bosch, Juergen jubo...@jhsph.edu wrote: Yep, mostly you should stay away from Tris as this is the worst buffer system when playing with temperature changes. Tris for

[ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Harsh Bansia
Sorry for a simple and non-CCP4 question. I have determined the structures of three different mutants of a thermostable protein by X-ray crystallography method. I feel that Mg2+ has a role in protein stability. So I want to perform a thermal denaturation study by CD spectroscopy both in

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Roger Rowlett
I would use a low affinity metal ion binding buffer like MOPS, HEPES, or MES. The Good buffers all have fairly low metal-ion affinity. Phosphates will be problematic because of magnesium phosphate formation. Cheers, ___ Roger S. Rowlett Gordon Dorothy

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Bernhard Rupp
Rowlett Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 1:07 PM To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies I would use a low affinity metal ion binding buffer like MOPS, HEPES, or MES. The Good buffers all have fairly low metal-ion affinity. Phosphates will be problematic because

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Vitali Stanevich
Harsh, This article describes common buffers for CD on page 2: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17406547 Or this article on page 8: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16027053 It seems like phosphate is the best, because it has low absorption at 180-200nm region. From organic buffers

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Roger Rowlett
Tris-sulfate might be acceptable for studies in the presence of magnesium ion. Na-MES is tolerable at low concentrations and shorter path lengths if a cutoff of 190-200 nm or so is acceptable. Chloride is indeed problematic in the far UV. ___ Roger S.

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Gloria Borgstahl
I have found it is best to test the absorption of your buffer in the wavelength range you are interested in. If you are going to do a temperature study with CD perhaps at 222 nm, then test your buffer there with your UV spec. You want to have little or no absorption. Or do the range 200-270 nm

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Kavestri
Sent from my iPad On 20/03/2013, at 7:59 PM, Harsh Bansia spideysp...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for a simple and non-CCP4 question. I have determined the structures of three different mutants of a thermostable protein by X-ray crystallography method. I feel that Mg2+ has a role in protein

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Kavestri
Hi Harsh Something like sodium borate at pH 9.0 could be an alternative to phosphate buffers. If you are looking at thermal unfolding above 220nm, then the choice of buffer is less critical as many buffers and additives are problematic only below 200nm. If your samples require high salt

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Why not thermal denaturation in the presence of Sypro Orange and a realtime PCR machine ? Crowther et al. Use of thermal melt curves to assess the quality of enzyme preparations. Anal Biochem (2010) vol. 399 (2) pp. 268-275 Or (shameless advertisement): Hain et al. Structural characterization

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Matthew Merski
One of the other things you need to be concerned about with thermal melts is the change in buffer pKa as temperature varies (I seem to remember this being called the beta factor). Phosphate is used for CD melts regularly because its pKa is fairly invariant with temperature. (A good reference is

Re: [ccp4bb] suitable buffer for CD studies

2013-03-20 Thread Bosch, Juergen
Yep, mostly you should stay away from Tris as this is the worst buffer system when playing with temperature changes. Tris for example has a ∆pKa/10˚C -0.31 Good, N.E. (1986) Biochemistry 5, 467 Jürgen P.S. @Matthew, was this what you meant by the Good buffers often not ? or just a