Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-16 Thread Ian Tickle
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance Well, I was pointing to the Sivia David (1994) paper because I thought it might be helpful in the discussion about how to convert intensities to amplitudes. The paper is probably not so well known in the PX community, so I decided that I

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-10 Thread Marc SCHILTZ
Well, I was pointing to the Sivia David (1994) paper because I thought it might be helpful in the discussion about how to convert intensities to amplitudes. The paper is probably not so well known in the PX community, so I decided that I would advertise it on this BB. However, since I am not one

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-09 Thread Eleanor Dodson
PROTECTED] To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance On Monday 08 September 2008 12:30:29 Phoebe Rice wrote: Dear Experts, At the risk of exposing excess ignorance, truncate makes me very nervous because I don't

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-09 Thread Ian Tickle
-Original Message- From: Bart Hazes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 September 2008 23:44 To: Ian Tickle Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance How a seemingly innocent question can explode ... Well there seems to be a widespread misunderstanding

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-09 Thread Ian Tickle
For comparison I repeated my previous calculation using the flat (non-Wilson) prior that you suggested (you would get the same results using the FW method in the limit of an infinite WDP). So now the results are indeed totally independent of the WDP - but IMO the results are also completely

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-09 Thread Phoebe Rice
diffraction limits are roughly isotropic, in certain resolution shells isotropy is still a bad assumption. Phoebe Original message Date: Tue, 9 Sep 2008 09:59:58 +0100 From: Eleanor Dodson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SPAM:#] Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance To: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Borhani, David
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance Dear Experts, At the risk of exposing excess ignorance, truncate makes me very nervous because I don't quite get exactly what it is doing with my data and what its assumptions are. From the documentation

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Jacob Keller
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Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Jon Wright
Borhani, David wrote: ... but I think pretty much everyone has converged on using it for the past many years. Many small molecule crystallographers seem to refine on intensity and so avoid need this procedure. Towards the end of the recent thread Wilson plot from truncated.mtz it had seemed

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Jacob Keller
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Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Ethan Merritt
On Monday 08 September 2008 13:29:24 Jon Wright wrote: Borhani, David wrote: ... but I think pretty much everyone has converged on using it for the past many years. Many small molecule crystallographers seem to refine on intensity and so avoid need this procedure. I would rather say:

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread marc . schiltz
@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Sent: Monday, September 08, 2008 3:03 PM Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance On Monday 08 September 2008 12:30:29 Phoebe Rice wrote: Dear Experts, At the risk of exposing excess ignorance, truncate makes me very nervous because I don't quite get exactly what it is doing

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Ian Tickle
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon Wright Sent: 08 September 2008 21:29 To: Borhani, David Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance Borhani, David wrote: ... but I think pretty much everyone has

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Peter Zwart
I believe also that in an earlier posting Peter Zwart said he thought that CNS doesn't take account of the Wilson distribution when doing its version of the correction; if this is true (and I have no independent evidence that it is since I'm not a CNS user), then the above argument

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Ian Tickle
] Sent: 08 September 2008 22:20 To: Jacob Keller Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance I would also recommend reading of the following paper: D.S. Sivia W.I.F. David (1994), Acta Cryst. A50, 703-714. A Bayesian Approach to Extracting Structure-Factor

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Ian Tickle
] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 September 2008 22:20 To: Jacob Keller Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance I would also recommend reading of the following paper: D.S. Sivia W.I.F. David (1994), Acta Cryst. A50, 703-714. A Bayesian Approach

Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance

2008-09-08 Thread Bart Hazes
September 2008 22:20 To: Jacob Keller Cc: CCP4BB@JISCMAIL.AC.UK Subject: Re: [ccp4bb] truncate ignorance I would also recommend reading of the following paper: D.S. Sivia W.I.F. David (1994), Acta Cryst. A50, 703-714. A Bayesian Approach to Extracting Structure-Factor Amplitudes from Powder