[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-31 Thread Antonio Carlini via cctalk
On 28/03/2024 23:29, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk wrote: The only legal[0] workaround for VMS on VAX is to go back all the way before LMF was introduced which IIRC means running VMS 4.4 and nothing newer. It's no more legal than running VMS V6.1 without a valid PAK (that was legally

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-29 Thread The Doctor via cctalk
On Thursday, March 28th, 2024 at 19:26, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > You forgot Mickey Mouse. > > Is the mouse's immortality due to his army of intellectual property > lawyers? There's a joke to be made here about Walt Disney being in cryonic suspension[0] and Mickey Mouse is his

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-29 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 28, 2024, at 9:44 PM, ben via cctalk wrote: > > On 2024-03-28 5:50 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > >> OTOH, spammer mailing lists, and leaked personal and trade secrets seem to >> last forever. > > You forgot Mickey Mouse. Not any more; Steamboat Willy is in the public

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-29 Thread Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk
] Re: Amoeba OS On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:02 AM Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist > licenses for vms ?? > The current owners have barely been responding to responses since taking over.

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Doug Jackson via cctalk
Ans sway they have in congress to get laws specifically modified for their benefit... On Fri, 29 Mar 2024, 1:27 pm Fred Cisin via cctalk, wrote: > >> OTOH, spammer mailing lists, and leaked personal and trade secrets > >> seem to last forever. > > On Thu, 28 Mar 2024, ben via cctalk wrote: > >

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
OTOH, spammer mailing lists, and leaked personal and trade secrets seem to last forever. On Thu, 28 Mar 2024, ben via cctalk wrote: You forgot Mickey Mouse. Is the mouse's immortality due to his army of intellectual property lawyers?

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Christopher Satterfield via cctalk
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 10:02 AM Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist licenses > for vms ?? > The current owners have barely been responding to responses since taking over. I tried twice for Itanium, but

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread ben via cctalk
On 2024-03-28 5:50 p.m., Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: OTOH, spammer mailing lists, and leaked personal and trade secrets seem to last forever. You forgot Mickey Mouse. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred ci...@xenosoft.com

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/28/2024 7:29 PM, Alexander Schreiber via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 05:02:10PM +, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk wrote: Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist licenses for vms ?? Not for OpenVMS/VAX, that stopped more than a year ago. IIRC

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
On Thu, 28 Mar 2024, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: Remember when they said now that we had the web nothing would ever be lost again? :-( sho' nuff, the memory, attribution, and written forms of that concept are lost. "The internet is written in sand." For example, remember Howard

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Alexander Schreiber via cctalk
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 05:02:10PM +, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk wrote: > Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist licenses for > vms ?? Not for OpenVMS/VAX, that stopped more than a year ago. IIRC you _can_ get something like[1] it for OpenVMS/amd64 from VMS

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/28/2024 3:08 PM, Doug McIntyre via cctalk wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 01:47:03PM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: On 3/28/2024 1:25 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Mar 28, 2024, at 1:02 PM, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk wrote: Sorry if I intrude... now is no more

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Doug McIntyre via cctalk
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 01:47:03PM -0400, Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 3/28/2024 1:25 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > > > > > > On Mar 28, 2024, at 1:02 PM, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk > > > wrote: > > > > > > Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Gavin Scott via cctalk
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 12:47 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk wrote: > On 3/28/2024 1:25 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> You can still get one for OpenVMS/x86. > As of the past few days, that may not be the case anymore. I believe that's all you can get now and going forward. They're also

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/28/2024 1:25 PM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Mar 28, 2024, at 1:02 PM, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk wrote: Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist licenses for vms ?? You can still get one for OpenVMS/x86. As of the past few days, that may not

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 28, 2024, at 1:02 PM, Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk > wrote: > > Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist licenses for > vms ?? You can still get one for OpenVMS/x86. paul

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Alessandro Mazzini via cctalk
Sorry if I intrude... now is no more possible to obtain hobbyist licenses for vms ?? -Original Message- From: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2024 5:57 PM To: Warner Losh ; General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts Cc: Bill Gunshannon Subject: [cctalk] Re

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/28/2024 12:47 PM, Warner Losh wrote: On Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 5:37 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk mailto:cctalk@classiccmp.org>> wrote: I know this is a real long shot but is there any chance someone has a copy of the original distribution of the Amoeba OS from the

[cctalk] Re: Amoeba OS

2024-03-28 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Thu, Mar 28, 2024, 5:37 PM Bill Gunshannon via cctalk < cctalk@classiccmp.org> wrote: > > I know this is a real long shot but is there any chance someone > has a copy of the original distribution of the Amoeba OS from > the University in the Netherlands? Searching the web finds only > the