[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-27 Thread Liam Proven via cctalk
On Fri, 22 Mar 2024 at 22:46, Diane Bruce via cctalk wrote: > > sync;sync;sync > power off > > I remember it well. In my 1st journalist job, at PC Pro Magazine in 1995, I used that to turn off a review SPARC portable. My new boss was delighted and apparently, unbidden, I thereby proved my xNix

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-25 Thread The Doctor via cctalk
On Saturday, March 23rd, 2024 at 16:35, Fred Cisin via cctalk wrote: > > > You say that like fsck is reliable now... > > There's a reason it's only one letter off. > > I've always wondered, . . . > "Feature" or "bug"? > Deliberate, or one of possibly many errors in development? I recall

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-23 Thread Fred Cisin via cctalk
You say that like fsck is reliable now... On Sat, 23 Mar 2024, Cameron Kaiser via cctalk wrote: There's a reason it's only one letter off. I've always wondered, . . . "Feature" or "bug"? Deliberate, or one of possibly many errors in development? -- Grumpy Ol' Fred

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-23 Thread Cameron Kaiser via cctalk
> You say that like fsck is reliable now... There's a reason it's only one letter off. -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckai...@floodgap.com -- Premature optimization is the root of all

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 23, 2024, at 11:04 AM, Doc Shipley via cctalk > wrote: > > On 3/23/24 09:53, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: >> Yes. So Unix did have a shutdown procedure, and it was particularly >> critical to do it and do it right. I remember when I first heard about >> Unix, when at the U of

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-23 Thread Christopher Zach via cctalk
I remember it as kill -9 1 then sync halt Or sync sync halt On March 23, 2024 2:53:56 PM GMT, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: > > >> On Mar 22, 2024, at 6:38 PM, Diane Bruce via cctalk >> wrote: >> >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 11:00:25PM +0100, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: >>> On Fri, Mar 22,

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-23 Thread Doc Shipley via cctalk
On 3/23/24 09:53, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: Yes. So Unix did have a shutdown procedure, and it was particularly critical to do it and do it right. I remember when I first heard about Unix, when at the U of Illinois -- some PDP11s in the Center for Advanced Computation ran it, for

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-23 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 22, 2024, at 6:38 PM, Diane Bruce via cctalk > wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 11:00:25PM +0100, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 10:54 PM Zane Healy via cctalk > ... >> Even v7 Unix didn't have halt or reboot. > > sync;sync;sync > power off > > I

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-22 Thread Diane Bruce via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024 at 11:00:25PM +0100, Warner Losh via cctalk wrote: > On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 10:54 PM Zane Healy via cctalk ... > Even v7 Unix didn't have halt or reboot. sync;sync;sync power off I remember it well. > > Warner > > > > Diane -- d...@freebsd.org d...@db.net

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-22 Thread Warner Losh via cctalk
On Fri, Mar 22, 2024, 10:54 PM Zane Healy via cctalk wrote: > On Mar 21, 2024, at 6:19 PM, W2HX via cctalk > wrote: > > > > I just got a pdp-11 to boot and it seems to have rt-11 installed. How > do I do an orderly shutdown? Google has info on simh but this ain't that. > > > > Thanks! > > 73

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-22 Thread Zane Healy via cctalk
On Mar 21, 2024, at 6:19 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > > I just got a pdp-11 to boot and it seems to have rt-11 installed. How do I > do an orderly shutdown? Google has info on simh but this ain't that. > > Thanks! > 73 Eugene w2hx In this respect it’s similar to many personal computer OS’s

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-22 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 22, 2024, at 10:59 AM, Jerry Weiss wrote: > > I make sure that any disk squeeze is complete and other programs are > quiescence. Good point -- while the OS doesn't have a shutdown procedure, some application and utilities don't want to be interrupted in the middle of specific

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-22 Thread Jerry Weiss via cctalk
I make sure that any disk squeeze is complete and other programs are quiescence. Then I just halt the processor or emulator.  Jerry On 3/22/24 8:23 AM, Paul Koning via cctalk wrote: On Mar 21, 2024, at 9:35 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: Ok, Bill. Still feels strange. No need to park the HD

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-22 Thread Paul Koning via cctalk
> On Mar 21, 2024, at 9:35 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: > > Ok, Bill. Still feels strange. No need to park the HD head either I guess. DEC disks do that themselves, at power down. paul

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-21 Thread W2HX via cctalk
W2HX My Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@w2hx/videos -Original Message- From: Bill Gunshannon via cctalk Sent: Thursday, March 21, 2024 9:23 PM To: W2HX via cctalk Cc: Bill Gunshannon Subject: [cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11? On 3/21/2024 9:19 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote

[cctalk] Re: How to shutdown RT11?

2024-03-21 Thread Bill Gunshannon via cctalk
On 3/21/2024 9:19 PM, W2HX via cctalk wrote: I just got a pdp-11 to boot and it seems to have rt-11 installed. How do I do an orderly shutdown? Google has info on simh but this ain't that. Thanks! 73 Eugene w2hx Turn off the power switch. Unlike most other OSes people here are