Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing Wiki article on tmpfs

2009-11-04 Thread Jasper Siepkes
Hi, First of all sorry for the long delay and thanks for the constructive feedback. I've made some additions to the Wiki article ( http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/TmpOnTmpfs ): -Added the 'Practical details' section to explain how tmpfs, swap and memory relate. -Added a 'Pitfalls' section

Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing Wiki article on tmpfs

2009-11-04 Thread Brian Mathis
Looks good. I appreciate the discussion on the priority of the RAM space used and issues to think about as far as swap space size and when it starts using disk. One thing that concerns me in the tmpfs.txt file is this statement: If you oversize your tmpfs instances the machine will deadlock

Re: [CentOS-docs] Contributing Wiki article on tmpfs

2009-11-04 Thread Jasper Siepkes
I think what they mean by that is the following: The Out of Memory handler will kill processes to free up RAM and swap. However tmpfs' memory use is not caused by a (killable) process, so the OOM handler can't free it up. Anyway when the OOM handler kicks in you have a serious problem anyway,

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:1541 Important CentOS 4 i386 kernel - security update

2009-11-04 Thread Tru Huynh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:1541 kernel security update for CentOS 4 i386: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1541.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: i386: updates/i386/RPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.16.EL.i586.rpm

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:1541 Important CentOS 4 x86_64 kernel - security update

2009-11-04 Thread Tru Huynh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory CESA-2009:1541 kernel security update for CentOS 4 x86_64: https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1541.html The following updated file has been uploaded and is currently syncing to the mirrors: x86_64: updates/x86_64/RPMS/kernel-2.6.9-89.0.16.EL.x86_64.rpm

[CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:1548 Important CentOS 5 x86_64 kernel Update

2009-11-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
CentOS Errata and Security Advisory 2009:1548 Important Upstream details at : https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2009-1548.html The following updated files have been uploaded and are currently syncing to the mirrors: ( md5sum Filename ) x86_64: b7551c56bf76d81e81220257b6558734

[CentOS-virt] Windows Server 2008 x86_64 guest with XEN on CentOS 5.3

2009-11-04 Thread Sergio Cioban Filho
Hi all, I'm trying to run Windows Server 2008 x86_64 on XEN, but I have a problem... The instalation works fine, but at the first reboot after instalation I get an Stop 0x007E error. Please, can you help me with this problem? My *processor*: Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5410 @ 2.33GHz My *xm

Re: [CentOS-es] Resumen de CentOS-es, Vol 35, Env ío 4

2009-11-04 Thread Elder Flores Salas
A mi me paso algo similar con un power edge 400sc.. lo que hice para poder instalar centos 5.3 fue utilizar los controladores de redhat.. posteriormente con otro server cree un arreglo de disco y con centos 5.3 me lo reconocio de inmediato.. Saludos - Elder Flores Salas. Linux user number:

[CentOS] yum clean all - adverse effects?

2009-11-04 Thread Jussi Hirvi
Are there any adverse effects to yum clean all? Does the system lose its memory of what is installed/updated? Regards, Jussi H. -- Jussi Hirvi * Green Spot Topeliuksenkatu 15 C * 00250 Helsinki * Finland Tel. +358 9 493 981 * Mobile +358 40 771 2098 (only sms) jussi.hi...@greenspot.fi *

Re: [CentOS] yum clean all - adverse effects?

2009-11-04 Thread Timo Schoeler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thus Jussi Hirvi spake: | Are there any adverse effects to yum clean all? Does the system | lose its memory of what is installed/updated? | | Regards, Jussi H. Hi Jussi, from the manpage: clean Is used to clean up various things which accumulate

[CentOS] Who's eating our bandwidth?

2009-11-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Hi, I've recently setup a new server for our public libraries. For the last two years, this has been my first big job, since it involves networking eleven small to medium size public libraries. There was a hiccup some time ago when the administration hiring me wanted to do it on their own,

Re: [CentOS] Who's eating our bandwidth?

2009-11-04 Thread Andrew Colin Kissa
Since your users are just in one country you could limit access to only that country using either geoip for apache or geoip for iptables. On 04 Nov 2009, at 11:16 AM, Niki Kovacs wrote: Hi, I've recently setup a new server for our public libraries. For the last two years, this has been

Re: [CentOS] yum clean all - adverse effects?

2009-11-04 Thread Jussi Hirvi
On 4.11.2009 11:00, Timo Schoeler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 thus Jussi Hirvi spake: | Are there any adverse effects to yum clean all? Does the system | lose its memory of what is installed/updated? | | Regards, Jussi H. Hi Jussi, from the manpage: clean

Re: [CentOS] Who's eating our bandwidth?

2009-11-04 Thread Fabian Arrotin
Niki Kovacs wrote: Hi, I've recently setup a new server for our public libraries. For the last two years, this has been my first big job, since it involves networking eleven small to medium size public libraries. There was a hiccup some time ago when the administration hiring me

Re: [CentOS] Zimbra help?

2009-11-04 Thread Neil Muller
On 03/11/2009, at 8:06 PM, Corey Chandler wrote: ML wrote: Hi All, Is anyone versed in Zimbra? Extremely-- and I know that Zimbra is flat out not supported under CentOS, by their own decision. If this is community edition, it's a different kettle of fish entirely. I run Zimbra

Re: [CentOS] Zimbra help?

2009-11-04 Thread Rainer Duffner
Neil Muller schrieb: I run Zimbra (commercial) on Centos for my employers and there is no problem running Zimbra on Centos or on getting support from Zimbra for Zimbra on Centos. Where did this idea of no support for Zimbra on Centos come from? It comes from the fact that if a

Re: [CentOS] Zimbra help?

2009-11-04 Thread Neil Muller
On 04/11/2009, at 9:50 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: Neil Muller schrieb: I run Zimbra (commercial) on Centos for my employers and there is no problem running Zimbra on Centos or on getting support from Zimbra for Zimbra on Centos. Where did this idea of no support for Zimbra on Centos

Re: [CentOS] Who's eating our bandwidth?

2009-11-04 Thread John Doe
From: Niki Kovacs cont...@kikinovak.net Then, I took a peek in /var/log/httpd and the *-access.log files show quite some activity. Some haphazard whois on various IP addresses show me that these are no library users from around here. Like: Bogota?!? Peking?!? And quite some search engines.

Re: [CentOS] Who's eating our bandwidth?

2009-11-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
John Doe a écrit : robots.txt for search engines. Maybe put a .htaccess file to only allow your library users (login/passwd)... Can't do that. The online catalog has to remain accessible for local folks. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Who's eating our bandwidth?

2009-11-04 Thread David Hrbáč
Niki Kovacs napsal(a): Hi, I've recently setup a new server for our public libraries. For the last two years, this has been my first big job, since it involves networking eleven small to medium size public libraries. Niki, limit access as much as possible. Geoip is your friend. You can

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/04/2009 12:47 AM, Tracy Phillips wrote: Chef showed up on my radar this morning. Have you seen it or used it. Looks pretty promising. I use Chef as well, and it is quite interesting in that it allows you to essentially have a systems management object in a proper language ( Ruby in this

Re: [CentOS] Zimbra help?

2009-11-04 Thread Rainer Duffner
Neil Muller schrieb: On 04/11/2009, at 9:50 PM, Rainer Duffner wrote: It comes from the fact that if a problem with Zimbra can be tracked down to a problem in RHEL, Zimbra will work with RedHat to get a fix. If the problem is in CentOS, you will have to work with this forum basically

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/04/2009 11:23 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: If you are a large scale enterprise or a business where employing sysadmins who are also expected to be moderately fluent in Ruby. ... isnt always possible. -- Karanbir Singh London, UK| http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ:

[CentOS] Redhat 7.3 as CentOS 5 domU

2009-11-04 Thread Mindaugas Riauba
Hello, What is the simpliest way to run Redhat 7.3 server as CentOS 5 domU? I see that Xen emulates Intel PIIX ATA controller for HVM domUs but latest kernel of Redhat 7.3 (2.4.20-20.7smp) has no ata_piix kernel module yet. Is it possible to download it somewhere or there is another way?

Re: [CentOS] Who's eating our bandwidth?

2009-11-04 Thread Peter Hopfgartner
Niki Kovacs wrote: Hi, I've recently setup a new server for our public libraries. For the last two years, this has been my first big job, since it involves networking eleven small to medium size public libraries. There was a hiccup some time ago when the administration hiring me wanted

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Marcus Moeller
Hi. At that point I pass it over to puppet personally.  Used to use cfengine, but there are aspects I prefer when it comes to puppet; your mileage may of course vary. well, refer back to my initial email on the subject. Its how you split state and policy - puppet isnt all that great at state

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Marcus Moeller wrote: Hi. At that point I pass it over to puppet personally. Used to use cfengine, but there are aspects I prefer when it comes to puppet; your mileage may of course vary. well, refer back to my initial email on the subject. Its how you split state and policy - puppet

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/04/2009 12:15 PM, Marcus Moeller wrote: I am personally not that big fan of Puppet, as things are getting quite complex in large scenarios and as Puppet does not scale well (this has been improved in the latest version if you are using passenger instead of webrick). Puppet is actually

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/04/2009 01:39 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: How well do any of these tools work when the hosts are widely distributed or distributed with groups in different locations? yes. And how do they handle IP assignment on multiple NICs? Do you need DHCP capability on all segments or do you

Re: [CentOS] Redhat 7.3 as CentOS 5 domU

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Mindaugas Riauba wrote: Hello, What is the simpliest way to run Redhat 7.3 server as CentOS 5 domU? I see that Xen emulates Intel PIIX ATA controller for HVM domUs but latest kernel of Redhat 7.3 (2.4.20-20.7smp) has no ata_piix kernel module yet. Is it possible to download it

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Marcus Moeller
Dear Karan, I am personally not that big fan of Puppet, as things are getting quite complex in large scenarios and as Puppet does not scale well (this has been improved in the latest version if you are using passenger instead of webrick). Puppet is actually easier to scale beyond a few

Re: [CentOS] Redhat 7.3 as CentOS 5 domU

2009-11-04 Thread nate
Mindaugas Riauba wrote: Hello, What is the simpliest way to run Redhat 7.3 server as CentOS 5 domU? Run it under vmware. Redhat enterprise 2.1 has never been supported in RHEL's Xen. And RHEL 2.1 is based off of redhat 7.3

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/04/2009 02:18 PM, Marcus Moeller wrote: We had massive performance issues with Puppet 0.25 and Mogrel/Webrick. Right, I dont think that the default out of the box setup with Webrick is meant to scale much beyond 100 or so machines, but its trivial to setup nginx based proxy in front of

Re: [CentOS] Redhat 7.3 as CentOS 5 domU

2009-11-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/04/2009 02:25 PM, nate wrote: Mindaugas Riauba wrote: Run it under vmware. Redhat enterprise 2.1 has never been supported in RHEL's Xen. And RHEL 2.1 is based off of redhat 7.3 Surely under hvm, Xen does not care much about whats under the hood. Also, EL2.1 is no longer supported - and

Re: [CentOS] Who's eating our bandwidth?

2009-11-04 Thread Brian Mathis
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:16 AM, Niki Kovacs cont...@kikinovak.net wrote: Hi, I've recently setup a new server for our public libraries. For the last two years, this has been my first big job, since it involves networking eleven small to medium size public libraries. There was a hiccup some

[CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Alan McKay
Hey folks, What is the best way to manage users across multiple CentOS boxes? Ideally what I'd like to be able to do is have central control over who has access to which box from a minute-to-minute basis. e.g. User X needs access to Box A for 30 minutes - clickity, clickity and they have

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/04/2009 02:50 PM, Alan McKay wrote: What is the best way to manage users across multiple CentOS boxes? If thats all you need in place, a ldap based setup would work - perhaps even CDS -- Karanbir Singh London, UK| http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh ICQ: 2522219 |

[CentOS] Certificates Revocation Lists and Apache...

2009-11-04 Thread John Doe
Hi, already asked in the openssl mailing list, but just in case you already went through this... I need a little help with Certificate Revocation Lists. I did setup client certificates filtering with apache and it seem to work fine so far (used a tutorial on http://www.adone.info/?p=4, down

Re: [CentOS] Certificates Revocation Lists and Apache...

2009-11-04 Thread nate
John Doe wrote: [warn] Invalid signature on CRL [error] Certificate Verification: Error (8): CRL signature failure Any relation to this? https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45708 I've worked with a lot of ssl stuff in apache but have never touched CRL before. Interestingly

[CentOS] rpm and yum issues

2009-11-04 Thread Monty Shinn
Greetings. I am having issues with rpm/yum on a centos 5.2 x86_64. I am trying to update from 5.2 to 5.4. During yum update, the application became unresponsive during the package search. It had not begun to download any packages. I tried to do a yum clean all, but that wouldn't complete

[CentOS] bind segfault in conjunction with dbus - what to change?

2009-11-04 Thread Brian Schueler
Hi all, I have a problem running bind on C5.4 when the messagebus service is activated. When I switch off the dbus message service bind runs well. With dbus activated bind crashes with a segfault. How can I get rid of this error? What shall I change? SElinux (the source of most unexpedted

Re: [CentOS] rpm and yum issues

2009-11-04 Thread m . roth
Greetings. I am having issues with rpm/yum on a centos 5.2 x86_64. I am trying to update from 5.2 to 5.4. During yum update, the application became unresponsive during the package search. It had not begun to download any packages. I tried to do a yum clean all, but that wouldn't

Re: [CentOS] Certificates Revocation Lists and Apache...

2009-11-04 Thread John Doe
From: nate cen...@linuxpowered.net Any relation to this? https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=45708 I don't think so; my tests are quite simple: - Start from clean state ( - Generate CA certificate - Generate CASSL certificate signed by CA - Generate Client Certificate

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Karanbir Singh wrote: And how do they handle IP assignment on multiple NICs? Do you need DHCP capability on all segments or do you need to know all the MAC addresses and the cable connectivity starting out? You only need that for the initial provisioning setup, once the machine is

Re: [CentOS] LSI SAS snmp agent

2009-11-04 Thread Joseph L. Casale
The LSI SAS SNMP module is an add-on to the RH SNMP module. It provides access to controller counters that would otherwise not be available. I run it on my Dell/LSI boxes to monitor controller throughput history for capacity planning and such. Hey Ross, Well, they say it's only supported on a

Re: [CentOS] rpm and yum issues

2009-11-04 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 10:04 -0600, Monty Shinn wrote: I am having issues with rpm/yum on a centos 5.2 x86_64. I am trying to update from 5.2 to 5.4. During yum update, the application became unresponsive during the package search. It had not begun to download any packages. I tried to do

Re: [CentOS] Redhat 7.3 as CentOS 5 domU

2009-11-04 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:43 AM, Mindaugas Riauba m...@kilimas.com wrote:  Hello,  What is the simpliest way to run Redhat 7.3 server as CentOS 5 domU? Qemu would probably be your best bet for incompatible hardware. Since the red hat 7.3 is no longer supported and has lots of security issues

Re: [CentOS] Certificates Revocation Lists and Apache...

2009-11-04 Thread nate
John Doe wrote: The goal is to be able to distribute client certificates to filter web access to certain resources. How about using just basic user names and passwords? Seems a lot simpler. Client certs can really make things messy and complicated, I worked with them a bunch several years ago,

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 57, Issue 2

2009-11-04 Thread centos-announce-request
Desc: not available Url : http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-announce/attachments/20091104/d6a418cb/attachment-0001.bin -- Message: 4 Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 01:56:16 +0100 From: Tru Huynh t...@centos.org Subject: [CentOS-announce] CESA-2009:1550 Important CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 11/04/2009 04:35 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: What good is a configuration tool if it can't handle a change in NIC setup? That's really about the only thing that is enough trouble to do manually that it is worth more automation than a shell loop of ssh commands. I am not sure how you got from

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread nate
Les Mikesell wrote: What good is a configuration tool if it can't handle a change in NIC setup? That's really about the only thing that is enough trouble to do manually that it is worth more automation than a shell loop of ssh commands. Just wondering what kind of NIC setup? In the hundreds

Re: [CentOS] Certificates Revocation Lists and Apache...

2009-11-04 Thread Paul Heinlein
On Wed, 4 Nov 2009, John Doe wrote: already asked in the openssl mailing list, but just in case you already went through this... I need a little help with Certificate Revocation Lists. I did setup client certificates filtering with apache and it seem to work fine so far (used a tutorial on

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Alan McKay
If thats all you need in place, a ldap based setup would work - perhaps even CDS Could you point me at examples of either of these? It is not clear to me where LDAP comes in - for authentication I guess. But what about managing the password files? Or does one not have to do that? --

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
nate wrote: What good is a configuration tool if it can't handle a change in NIC setup? That's really about the only thing that is enough trouble to do manually that it is worth more automation than a shell loop of ssh commands. Just wondering what kind of NIC setup? In the hundreds of

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Michael Semcheski
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Yes, but what else works cross-platform? I'm toying with the idea of using its agent to run a command, but running the agent via ssh or winexec/psexec (windows) to control the timing. Puppet works across Linux /

Re: [CentOS] NTFS and elrepo

2009-11-04 Thread Dag Wieers
On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:00 AM, Akemi Yagi amy...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 7:44 AM, Nicolas Thierry-Mieg nicolas.thierry-m...@imag.fr wrote: and I suspect you are actually using ntfs-3g... Indeed, this has to be looked into. Rod, could

Re: [CentOS] NTFS and elrepo

2009-11-04 Thread Akemi Yagi
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:18 AM, Dag Wieers d...@wieers.com wrote: On Tue, 3 Nov 2009, Akemi Yagi wrote: rpm -qa kmod\* and ls -l `find /lib/modules -name ntfs.ko` (if this command gives you a list of your current directory, then please don't post the output) Beware that even when the

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread nate
Les Mikesell wrote: Most of our machines have 5 or so NICs, each connected to special purpose subnets. And even the ones that only need 1 or 2 connections will have the same physical setup so the servers are reusable. Trunk all the ports and use VLANs ? Of course, but that's the point. If

Re: [CentOS] Zimbra help?

2009-11-04 Thread Alberto M. dos Reis
I run zimbra community version on a CentOS 5.3. No problem at all. I will upgrade to centos 5.4 and see if it causes any problem. Joao Reis. http://www.intesys.com.br/ On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 21:24 +1100, Neil Muller wrote: On 03/11/2009, at 8:06 PM, Corey Chandler wrote: ML wrote: Hi All,

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread m . roth
If thats all you need in place, a ldap based setup would work - perhaps even CDS Could you point me at examples of either of these? It is not clear to me where LDAP comes in - for authentication I guess. But what about managing the password files? Or does one not have to do that? Only

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Karanbir Singh wrote: I personally think that cloning is for people who dont know what they are doing. Of course - that's a feature, though, not a bug. You want the people who bolt the machines in the racks to be able to do it - and you don't want it to dictate to you what OS they can

[CentOS] Tripwire Question

2009-11-04 Thread Al Sparks
I'm trying to run tripwire on a RHEL 5.4 box. I'm new to it. I'm getting errors: The object: /ora is on a different file system...ignoring. For one thing, it's not a different file system. It's not any different than the root partition, that tripwire will monitor. And I want tripwire to

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Dan Burkland
If you guys would be so kind would you mind emailing some examples of some puppet policies? It would really be beneficial to me :) Thanks again for the all replies! Dan Burkland -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Karanbir

Re: [CentOS] Zimbra help?

2009-11-04 Thread Corey Chandler
Neil Muller wrote: On 03/11/2009, at 8:06 PM, Corey Chandler wrote: ML wrote: Hi All, Is anyone versed in Zimbra? Extremely-- and I know that Zimbra is flat out not supported under CentOS, by their own decision. If this is community edition, it's a different kettle of

Re: [CentOS] Tripwire Question

2009-11-04 Thread Corey Chandler
Al Sparks wrote: I'm trying to run tripwire on a RHEL 5.4 box. I'm new to it. RHEL != CentOS. That said, what happens when you strace tripwire? -- Corey / KB1JWQ ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] Zimbra help?

2009-11-04 Thread Corey Chandler
Corey Chandler wrote: Citation: http://www.zimbra.com/forums/announcements/14116-centos-not-supported.html Er, this was updated and linked, just noticed that. But the update reads: On the issue of support, it isn’t that you can’t run CentOS, it’s just that it’s not officially supported

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
nate wrote: Most of our machines have 5 or so NICs, each connected to special purpose subnets. And even the ones that only need 1 or 2 connections will have the same physical setup so the servers are reusable. Trunk all the ports and use VLANs ? This might be possible now - it wasn't when

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread nate
Les Mikesell wrote: But will the tool do these changes for me? The tool will do anything you tell it to, it's a generic tool. You could define a class that runs a script to detect the network settings, if it is forced to full duplex it would return true, which would then trigger another command

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
nate wrote: But will the tool do these changes for me? The tool will do anything you tell it to, it's a generic tool. OK, but if I have to write the script, why wouldn't I just write the script my way and automate it over ssh which already works instead of learning some new language and

Re: [CentOS] Zimbra help?

2009-11-04 Thread John R Pierce
Corey Chandler wrote: Corey Chandler wrote: Citation: http://www.zimbra.com/forums/announcements/14116-centos-not-supported.html Er, this was updated and linked, just noticed that. indeed, and the followup links to...

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread nate
Les Mikesell wrote: OK, but if I have to write the script, why wouldn't I just write the script my way and automate it over ssh which already works instead of learning some new language and having to install some new agent everywhere to run it? If your just interested in doing one thing then

Re: [CentOS] Zimbra help?

2009-11-04 Thread Corey Chandler
John R Pierce wrote: indeed, and the followup links to... http://www.zimbra.com/forums/announcements/14213-our-centos-users.html which clarifies that the CentOS4 problem in the prior bulletin turned out to be a customer-installed Perl 5.8.8 which caused problems with Scalar::Util and

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Alan McKay
OK, google comes up with what looks like some easy HOWTOs for LDAP I'll dig in and come back with questions as required -- “Don't eat anything you've ever seen advertised on TV” - Michael Pollan, author of In Defense of Food ___ CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Tripwire Question

2009-11-04 Thread John R Pierce
Al Sparks wrote: I'm trying to run tripwire on a RHEL 5.4 box. I'm new to it. I'm getting errors: The object: /ora is on a different file system...ignoring. For one thing, it's not a different file system. It's not any different than the root partition, that tripwire will monitor.

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread m . roth
OK, google comes up with what looks like some easy HOWTOs for LDAP I'll dig in and come back with questions as required Don't believe it. The fall of '06, my manager and the other admin and I were discussing what to use for single sign-on. NIS has way too many holes, and no one was wild about

[CentOS] Help with Sendmail

2009-11-04 Thread Alexander Leyva Fonseca
Hi list, I'm configuring Sendmail as a mail server in my job but I have a modem conection with my provider and at that time I don know how to configure it. I send and receive mails im my lan but I cant do it downloading from my provider. Could someone help me? -- Lic. Alexander Leyva Fonseca

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
nate wrote: OK, but if I have to write the script, why wouldn't I just write the script my way and automate it over ssh which already works instead of learning some new language and having to install some new agent everywhere to run it? If your just interested in doing one thing then you

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Rob Kampen
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: OK, google comes up with what looks like some easy HOWTOs for LDAP I'll dig in and come back with questions as required Don't believe it. The fall of '06, my manager and the other admin and I were discussing what to use for single sign-on. NIS has way too many

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: OK, google comes up with what looks like some easy HOWTOs for LDAP I'll dig in and come back with questions as required Don't believe it. The fall of '06, my manager and the other admin and I were discussing what to use for single sign-on. NIS has way too many

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread nate
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Don't believe it. I concur! spare), I got it in. openLDAP's docs were *way* insufficient, and the tools that come with it are *not* ready for prime time, and user-surly, to say the least. Imagine what it was like even earlier, I vaguely recall the days/nights back

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread m . roth
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: OK, google comes up with what looks like some easy HOWTOs for LDAP I'll dig in and come back with questions as required Don't believe it. The fall of '06, my manager and the other admin and I were discussing what to use for single sign-on. NIS has way too many

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread m . roth
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: OK, google comes up with what looks like some easy HOWTOs for LDAP I'll dig in and come back with questions as required Don't believe it. The fall of '06, my manager and the other admin and I were discussing what to use for single sign-on. NIS has way too many

Re: [CentOS] Help with Sendmail

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Alexander Leyva Fonseca wrote: Hi list, I'm configuring Sendmail as a mail server in my job but I have a modem conection with my provider and at that time I don know how to configure it. I send and receive mails im my lan but I cant do it downloading from my provider. Could someone help

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread m . roth
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Don't believe it. I concur! spare), I got it in. openLDAP's docs were *way* insufficient, and the tools that come with it are *not* ready for prime time, and user-surly, to say the least. Imagine what it was like even earlier, I vaguely recall the days/nights

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread nate
Les Mikesell wrote: nate wrote: Yes, but if you have to manage the details anyway I'm having trouble seeing the value of an abstraction - and having to understand both the details and the abstraction. Do the tools give you an easy way to reliably repeat someone else's detailed process

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 15:26 -0500, Rob Kampen wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: OK, google comes up with what looks like some easy HOWTOs for LDAP I'll dig in and come back with questions as required Don't believe it. The fall of '06, my manager and the other admin and I were

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Craig White wrote: At that point, using OpenLDAP or CentOS-DS or Fedora-DS is more or less a matter of implementation details and utility. None of them are better than the other for most purposes and even things like the consoles in Fedora-DS aren't going to make it any easier for you to use

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread m . roth
Craig White wrote: At that point, using OpenLDAP or CentOS-DS or Fedora-DS is more or less a matter of implementation details and utility. None of them are better than the other for most purposes and even things like the consoles in Fedora-DS aren't going to make it any easier for you to use

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
nate wrote: I feel for ya if you have to support both windows and linux, I used to have to do that myself, but fortunately got out of that rut years ago. There are things that just have to work together and across platforms, like the inventory, monitoring, and capacity tracking so I

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread m . roth
Les wrote: nate wrote: People don't even come to me with windows questions anymore because I'm so out of touch with it. Only so many brain cells and I'd rather spend them on more valuable things(networking, storage, virtualization, HA, scalability etc) Well, there's always java, in spite

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Kwan Lowe
However I never quite got it done, always seemed real close but not quite. Did you document?? I am now trying the RH / Fedora DS - no problem getting it installed but configuration Any pointers to docs that actually work. I have purchased books, read magazines and spent probably 100+

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Christoph Maser
Am Mittwoch, den 04.11.2009, 20:46 +0100 schrieb Les Mikesell: nate wrote: But will the tool do these changes for me? The tool will do anything you tell it to, it's a generic tool. OK, but if I have to write the script, why wouldn't I just write the script my way and automate it over

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 15:25 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: Craig White wrote: At that point, using OpenLDAP or CentOS-DS or Fedora-DS is more or less a matter of implementation details and utility. None of them are better than the other for most purposes and even things like the consoles in

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Brian Mathis
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 4:44 PM, Craig White craigwh...@azapple.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 15:25 -0600, Les Mikesell wrote: Craig White wrote: At that point, using OpenLDAP or CentOS-DS or Fedora-DS is more or less a matter of implementation details and utility. None of them are better

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: People don't even come to me with windows questions anymore because I'm so out of touch with it. Only so many brain cells and I'd rather spend them on more valuable things(networking, storage, virtualization, HA, scalability etc) Well, there's always java, in spite

Re: [CentOS] Spacewalk or Puppet?

2009-11-04 Thread nate
Les Mikesell wrote: There are things that just have to work together and across platforms, like the inventory, monitoring, and capacity tracking so I automatically see it as going the wrong direction to even consider something that locks you into a single OS or vendor. I'd like to promote

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Kwan Lowe
In my extremely limited experience with LDAP, it seem that the problem is not LDAP itself, but how to structure it.  Most howtos walk you through installing whatever software, and then say OK, now you have LDAP! Agreed. The problem is that LDAP is useless without a structure and data

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Les Mikesell
Craig White wrote: At that point, using OpenLDAP or CentOS-DS or Fedora-DS is more or less a matter of implementation details and utility. None of them are better than the other for most purposes and even things like the consoles in Fedora-DS aren't going to make it any easier for you to use

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Craig White
On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 17:01 -0500, Brian Mathis wrote: In my extremely limited experience with LDAP, it seem that the problem is not LDAP itself, but how to structure it. Most howtos walk you through installing whatever software, and then say OK, now you have LDAP! The problem is that

Re: [CentOS] user management solution needed

2009-11-04 Thread Rob Kampen
Craig White wrote: On Wed, 2009-11-04 at 15:26 -0500, Rob Kampen wrote: m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: OK, google comes up with what looks like some easy HOWTOs for LDAP I'll dig in and come back with questions as required Don't believe it. The fall of '06, my manager and

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