Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-04, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: One might question why *nix distributions insist on providing a known point of attack to begin with. Why does user 0 have to be called root? Why not beatlebailey, cinnamon or pasdecharge? That is more or less what OS X does. User 0

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, February 4, 2015 9:17 am, James B. Byrne wrote: On Tue, February 3, 2015 14:01, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Tue, February 3, 2015 12:39 pm, Les Mikesell wrote: On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: Sounds so I almost have to feel shame for

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Scott Robbins
On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 08:18:23AM -0800, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-02-04, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: One might question why *nix distributions insist on providing a known point of attack to begin with. Why does user 0 have to be called root? Why not beatlebailey,

Re: [CentOS] Setting up Samba as fileserver for existing Windows domain

2015-02-04 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 02/04/2015 08:05 AM, Chris Adams wrote: This is probably covered in many places, but my Google-fu is failing. Samba's documentation/howto is here: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setup_a_Samba_AD_Member_Server As others have mentioned, authconfig will take care of some of those steps for

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, February 4, 2015 10:35 am, Scott Robbins wrote: On Wed, Feb 04, 2015 at 08:18:23AM -0800, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-02-04, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: One might question why *nix distributions insist on providing a known point of attack to begin with. Why does

Re: [CentOS] Setting up Samba as fileserver for existing Windows domain

2015-02-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: This is probably covered in many places, but my Google-fu is failing. I have an existing office of Windows computers, in a domain, with a couple of Windows Server 2012 AD servers. I need to add a file server, so I'd prefer

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, February 4, 2015 10:18 am, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-02-04, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: One might question why *nix distributions insist on providing a known point of attack to begin with. Why does user 0 have to be called root? Why not beatlebailey, cinnamon or

[CentOS] Traditional network interface naming scheme vs. persistent naming

2015-02-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Hi, I'm currently experimenting with CentOS 7 in order to get a grasp of everything that's new. After having read the FAQ entry on network interface names, I decided to revert to the tradictional interface naming scheme by adding the relevant kernel options to the bootloader. This went

Re: [CentOS] Traditional network interface naming scheme vs. persistent naming

2015-02-04 Thread dE
On 02/04/15 22:53, Niki Kovacs wrote: Hi, I'm currently experimenting with CentOS 7 in order to get a grasp of everything that's new. After having read the FAQ entry on network interface names, I decided to revert to the tradictional interface naming scheme by adding the relevant kernel

Re: [CentOS] Setting up Samba as fileserver for existing Windows domain

2015-02-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Gordon Messmer gordon.mess...@gmail.com wrote: This is probably covered in many places, but my Google-fu is failing. Samba's documentation/howto is here: https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Setup_a_Samba_AD_Member_Server As others have mentioned, authconfig

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Lamar Owen
On 02/04/2015 10:17 AM, James B. Byrne wrote: I had a friend, now deceased, who worked as an RCA colour TV technician when he was very young. In the 1950s he would be sent to the homes of people having trouble adjusting the colour settings on their new RCA's. That was system administration

Re: [CentOS] Setting up Samba as fileserver for existing Windows domain

2015-02-04 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com said: On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: I have an existing office of Windows computers, in a domain, with a couple of Windows Server 2012 AD servers. I need to add a file server, so I'd prefer to use

Re: [CentOS] Setting up Samba as fileserver for existing Windows domain

2015-02-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:24 AM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: Once upon a time, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com said: On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 10:05 AM, Chris Adams li...@cmadams.net wrote: I have an existing office of Windows computers, in a domain, with a couple of Windows Server

Re: [CentOS] Traditional network interface naming scheme vs. persistent naming

2015-02-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:23 AM, Niki Kovacs i...@microlinux.fr wrote: Hi, I'm currently experimenting with CentOS 7 in order to get a grasp of everything that's new. After having read the FAQ entry on network interface names, I decided to revert to the tradictional interface naming scheme

Re: [CentOS] user nobody can't access file

2015-02-04 Thread Lars Hecking
Tim Dunphy writes: Hey guys, I need to give the 'nobody' user (which is what our apache runs as) no password access to a file, via sudo. This is what I've tried: In addition to all other comments so far, 'nobody' is a bad choice for httpd. If this is your distro's default, it's a bad

Re: [CentOS] multipathd

2015-02-04 Thread John R Pierce
On 2/4/2015 6:02 AM, Rushton Martin wrote: OS is CentOS 5.3 (yes, I know - upgrade) at least patch CentOS 5. 5.3 is a snapshot from 6 years ago (2009), there've been 6 years of updates to CentOS 5 since that point, both security and bug fixes. `yum update` would bring you up to CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Traditional network interface naming scheme vs. persistent naming

2015-02-04 Thread Niki Kovacs
Le 04/02/2015 18:48, m.r...@5-cent.us a écrit : That directory, and that file, exist in CentOS, also, since 6. And the new naming... it's*so* much easier to deal with... yeah, right, I'll run the install, and wait till it hangs, so I can see that the NIC is named, what was it, on that HP last

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Lamar Owen
On 02/03/2015 03:44 PM, Always Learning wrote: There should be a basic defence that when the password is wrong 'n' occasions the IP address is blocked automatically and permanently unless it is specifically allowed in IP Tables. As has been mentioned, fail2ban does this. However, the reason

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Lamar Owen
On 02/04/2015 02:08 PM, Lamar Owen wrote: 3.) Attacker uses a large graphics card's GPU power, harnessed with CUDA or similar, to run millions of bruteforce attempts per second on the exfiltrated /etc/shadow, on their computer (not yours). 4.) After a few hours, attacker has your password (or

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Wed, February 4, 2015 3:55 pm, Warren Young wrote: On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: Again, the real bruteforce danger is when your /etc/shadow is exfiltrated by a security vulnerability Unless you have misconfigured your system, anyone who can copy

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: Again, the real bruteforce danger is when your /etc/shadow is exfiltrated by a security vulnerability Unless you have misconfigured your system, anyone who can copy /etc/shadow already has root privileges. They don’t need to

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Lamar Owen
On 02/04/2015 04:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: Unless you have misconfigured your system, anyone who can copy /etc/shadow already has root privileges. They don’t need to crack your passwords now. You’re already boned. Not exactly. There have been remotely exploitable vulnerabilities where an

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 10:04 AM, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: wikiedia is really vague on the date MacOS 10 was first shipped It depends on what you mean by “shipped.” The first OS X product released into the market was OS X Server 1.0, in March 1999:

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 14:16 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: Oh, and the program to do this can be found very easily. It's called 'John the Ripper' and has GPU support available: http://openwall.info/wiki/john/GPU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_the_ripper Again, the real bruteforce danger

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 8:17 AM, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: I had a friend, now deceased, who worked as an RCA colour TV technician when he was very young. In the 1950s he would be sent to the homes of people having trouble adjusting the colour settings on their new RCA's.

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2015-02-04, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: On Wed, February 4, 2015 10:18 am, Keith Keller wrote: On 2015-02-04, James B. Byrne byrn...@harte-lyne.ca wrote: [SNIP] (Users with sudo can still get a root shell, but that's not the same as logging in as root.) I thought

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 14:08 -0500, Lamar Owen wrote: However, the reason you want a password that is not easily bruteforced has nothing to do with this, and all bruteforce attempts cannot be blocked by this method. Thanks for your well-explained concerns. You make good sense. Just counted

[CentOS] Anaconda: inst.repo doesn't work.

2015-02-04 Thread dE
Although you can choose this in the installer, isnt the provided values supposed to be the default? I tired the following inst.repo=hd:/dev/sdb1:/repo Result: /dev/sdb1 is not mounted. inst.repo=nfs:[fc00::6009]:/home/auser/repo Result: NFS is not mounted even the correct ip is set by

Re: [CentOS] lost at 'repository' entry installing centos7

2015-02-04 Thread Ted Miller
On 02/02/2015 03:15 PM, Tim wrote: What are you exactly searching for? Sounds like he is doing a network install, and is looking for the network path that must be supplied in order to do the install. If he doesn't have a local repository, then he has to supply the first part of the path

Re: [CentOS] multipathd

2015-02-04 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 04.02.2015 um 15:02 schrieb Rushton Martin: Our cluster was supplied with two IBM DS3400 RAID arrays connected with fibre channel. Both are old and one is failing so we bought an IBM V3700 to replace it. The V3700 complained that we were using the IBM's RDAC driver (true) and we were

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 3:56 PM, Kahlil Hodgson kahlil.hodg...@dealmax.com.au wrote: I just had a peek at the anaconda source for Fedora 21. This change isn’t in a released version of Fedora yet: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2015-January/124827.html The change will probably

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: Not exactly - it just becomes a question of whether the complexity requirements imposed by the installer are really worth much against the pre-hashed lists that would be used to match up the shadow contents. Rainbow

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
On 5 February 2015 at 10:53, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote: On C6, the default is:- -- 1 root root 854 Mar 13 2014 shadow Even better if you have SElinux enabled --. root root system_u:object_r:shadow_t:s0/etc/shadow

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:20 PM, Kahlil Hodgson kahlil.hodg...@dealmax.com.au wrote: On 5 February 2015 at 10:36, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: When the hashes are properly salted, the only option is brute force. All having /etc/shadow does for you is let you make billions of guesses

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 14:55 -0700, Warren Young wrote: On Feb 4, 2015, at 12:16 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: Again, the real bruteforce danger is when your /etc/shadow is exfiltrated by a security vulnerability Unless you have misconfigured your system, anyone who can copy

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread John R Pierce
On 2/4/2015 4:04 PM, Warren Young wrote: # rpm -q --dump setup|grep shadow /etc/gshadow 0 1329943062 d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e 0100400 root root 1 0 0 X /etc/shadow 0 1329943062 d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e 0100400 root root 1 0 0 X This says it should be mode 400, as it is here on

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: SSH as shipped on CentOS doesn’t allow 1,000 guesses per second, as this calculator assumes Hmm, just thought of a counterattack: If CentOS’s SSH currently allows 10 guesses per minute *per IP*, all you need to do to get

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
I just had a peek at the anaconda source for Fedora 21. Apparently you can waive the password strength tests (and the non-ASCII tests) by simply clicking Done twice. def _checkPasswordASCII(self, inputcheck): Set an error message if the password contains non-ASCII characters.

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: There have been remotely exploitable vulnerabilities where an arbitrary file could be read CVEs, please? I’m aware of vulnerabilities that allow a remote read of arbitrary files that are readable by the exploited

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:53 PM, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote: On C5 the default appears to be:- -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1220 Jan 31 03:04 shadow Nope: # rpm -q --dump setup|grep shadow /etc/gshadow 0 1329943062 d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e 0100400 root root 1 0 0 X

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
On 5 February 2015 at 10:36, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: When the hashes are properly salted, the only option is brute force. All having /etc/shadow does for you is let you make billions of guesses per second instead of 5 guesses per minute, as you get with proper throttling on

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 4:14 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 4:55 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: Most such vulns are against Apache, PHP, etc, which do not run as root. Those are common. Combine them with anything called a 'local privilege

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 17:50 -0700, Warren Young wrote: On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:43 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: SSH as shipped on CentOS doesn’t allow 1,000 guesses per second, as this calculator assumes Hmm, just thought of a counterattack: If CentOS’s SSH currently

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
On 5 February 2015 at 12:09, Scott Robbins scot...@nyc.rr.com wrote: On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 09:56:30AM +1100, Kahlil Hodgson wrote: I just had a peek at the anaconda source for Fedora 21. Apparently you can waive the password strength tests (and the non-ASCII tests) by simply clicking Done

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: An LPE can only be used against your system by logged-in users. Or any running program - like a web server. That’s not what LPE means. “L” =

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Kahlil Hodgson
While this discussion has been very interesting, I would like to encourage participants to be very careful about disclosing the specifics their own security efforts. While is good to discuss the pros and cons of strategies, disclosing the details of the exact strategies that you use, no matter

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Always Learning
On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 18:14 -0700, Warren Young wrote: Nothing is free. Just as with my analogy with safes, we’re not talking about absolute security. We just need to make an attack *costly enough* that it will never succeed, if we do our part. (Like not saying chmod 644 /etc/shadow !!)

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: Most such vulns are against Apache, PHP, etc, which do not run as root. Those are common. Combine them with anything called a 'local privilege escalation' vulnerability and you've got a remote root exploit. Not quite.

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Scott Robbins
On Thu, Feb 05, 2015 at 09:56:30AM +1100, Kahlil Hodgson wrote: I just had a peek at the anaconda source for Fedora 21. Apparently you can waive the password strength tests (and the non-ASCII tests) by simply clicking Done twice. That's correct for Fedora 21. The inability to waive the

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Always Learning cen...@u64.u22.net wrote: On Wed, 2015-02-04 at 17:50 -0700, Warren Young wrote: rent time on a 6,000 machine botnet. Rent ? That costs money. Just crack open some Windoze machines and do it for free. That is what many hackers do. Acquiring

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Les Mikesell
On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 8:43 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:23 PM, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 6:32 PM, Warren Young w...@etr-usa.com wrote: An LPE can only be used against your system by logged-in users. Or any running

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Keith Keller
On 2015-02-04, Valeri Galtsev galt...@kicp.uchicago.edu wrote: I'm neutral to sudo (even though I was taught the smaller number of SUID/SGID files you have, the better). Yet, I'm considering it less safe to have regular user who can log in with GUI interface, and likely to be doing regular

Re: [CentOS-es] centos con carpetas compartidas

2015-02-04 Thread Dayron Fabars Maura
Esta documentación realmente es para linux, pero puede que te sirva para el problema que tienes. hola , tengo un problema con unas carpetas que se ha compartido en mi servidor centos, les muestro el escenario mi servidor es un centos 5.9 con carpetas compartidas y tengo 2 tipos de clientes

[CentOS-es] centos con carpetas compartidas

2015-02-04 Thread César C .
hola , tengo un problema con unas carpetas que se ha compartido en mi servidor centos, les muestro el escenario mi servidor es un centos 5.9 con carpetas compartidas y tengo 2 tipos de clientes :cliente Windows xp en dominio y cliente Windows 7 en dominio, y el servidor de dominio es un

Re: [CentOS] Another Fedora decision

2015-02-04 Thread Warren Young
On Feb 4, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu wrote: On 02/04/2015 04:55 PM, Warren Young wrote: Unless you have misconfigured your system, anyone who can copy /etc/shadow already has root privileges. They don’t need to crack your passwords now. You’re already boned. Not