Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/25/2018 08:18 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: OK, what you say is true in theory. However, in Thunderbird on Linux and using Mac clients, etc .. and certainly on Windows workstation clients using outlook .. zimbra does not work well. It also does not work well on people's smart phone

Re: [CentOS] Which is better? Microsoft Exchange 2016 or Linux-based SMTP Servers?

2018-07-27 Thread Keith Keller
On 2018-07-25, Meikel wrote: >> [...] People want their phone to >> remind them of their appointments [...] > > It's a generalization. Not valid for all people. > > Maybe SOME people want their phone to remind them of their appointsments. And if some of those people are in your organization then

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/27/2018 09:38 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: The total number from that report is about 706M. Did it move at all after killing that "one process"? My available memory has now jumped up from 640M to 1.5G after one of the processes (which was reportedly using about 100M) finished. I'll have to

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 7/27/2018 12:58 PM, mark wrote: > Bowie Bailey wrote: >> On 7/27/2018 11:50 AM, Warren Young wrote: >>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >>> I have a CentOS 7 server that is running out of memory >>> How do you know that? Give a specific symptom. >>> >> This was

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Jon Pruente
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 12:07 PM, Jon Pruente wrote: > to revert to booting a 514 series kernel or converting to EXT4, depending > on the needs of the particular server. Everything I've converted to EXT4 > has been rock > Scratch that, I just looked and it was reverting to a 327 kernel that

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Jon Pruente
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018 at 10:41 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > On a lark, what kind of file systems is the system using and how long g > had > > it been up before you rebooted? > > The filesystems are all XFS. I don't know for sure how long it had been > up previously, I'd guess at least 2 weeks.

Re: [CentOS] C7, just updated firefox, bugs

2018-07-27 Thread mark
Promise Kumalo wrote: > My FF 60 just crashed randomly when ever it feels liek it. ive since > rolled back to older stable versions until community says its now stable. > I've rolled it back on my workstation, and am *not* rolling it out to users. For one, thunderbird can't talk to the correct

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread mark
Bowie Bailey wrote: > On 7/27/2018 11:50 AM, Warren Young wrote: >> On Jul 27, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> >>> I have a CentOS 7 server that is running out of memory >>> >> How do you know that? Give a specific symptom. >> > This was brought to my attention because one program was

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 7/27/2018 12:13 PM, Gordon Messmer wrote: > On 07/27/2018 08:10 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> The problem is that I can't find 2.4G of usage. > > > Are your results from "top" similar to: > >   ps axu | sort -nr -k +6 That looks the same. > > If you don't see 2.4G of use from applications, maybe

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 7/27/2018 11:50 AM, Warren Young wrote: > On Jul 27, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: >> I have a CentOS 7 server that is running out of memory > How do you know that? Give a specific symptom. This was brought to my attention because one program was killed by the kernel to free memory

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/27/2018 08:50 AM, Warren Young wrote: This is such a common misunderstanding that it has its own web site: https://www.linuxatemyram.com/ The misunderstanding was mostly related to an older version of "free" that included buffers/cache in the "used" column.  "used" in this case

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Gordon Messmer
On 07/27/2018 08:10 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: The problem is that I can't find 2.4G of usage. Are your results from "top" similar to:   ps axu | sort -nr -k +6 If you don't see 2.4G of use from applications, maybe the kernel is using a lot of memory.  Check /proc/slabinfo.  You can simplify

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Warren Young
On Jul 27, 2018, at 9:10 AM, Bowie Bailey wrote: > > I have a CentOS 7 server that is running out of memory How do you know that? Give a specific symptom. > Running "free -h" gives me this: > totalusedfree shared buff/cache > available > Mem:

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
On 7/27/2018 11:14 AM, Jon Pruente wrote: > On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 10:10 AM Bowie Bailey wrote: > >> I have a CentOS 7 server that is running out of memory and I can't >> figure out why. >> >> The problem is that I can't find 2.4G of usage. If I look at resident >> memory usage using "top", the

Re: [CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Jon Pruente
On Fri, Jul 27, 2018, 10:10 AM Bowie Bailey wrote: > I have a CentOS 7 server that is running out of memory and I can't > figure out why. > > The problem is that I can't find 2.4G of usage. If I look at resident > memory usage using "top", the top 5 processes are using a total of > 390M. > On

[CentOS] Finding memory usage

2018-07-27 Thread Bowie Bailey
I have a CentOS 7 server that is running out of memory and I can't figure out why. Running "free -h" gives me this:   total    used    free  shared  buff/cache   available Mem:   3.4G    2.4G    123M    5.9M    928M    626M Swap:  1.9G   

Re: [CentOS] C7, just updated firefox, bugs

2018-07-27 Thread Promise Kumalo
My FF 60 just crashed randomly when ever it feels liek it. ive since rolled back to older stable versions until community says its now stable. On 07/27/2018 03:37 PM, wwp wrote: Hello, On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:36:55 -0400 "mark" wrote: I just updated the

[CentOS] CentOS-announce Digest, Vol 161, Issue 7

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Re: [CentOS] C7, just updated firefox, bugs

2018-07-27 Thread wwp
Hello, On Thu, 12 Jul 2018 10:36:55 -0400 "mark" wrote: > I just updated the "critical" firefox update, and it is *seriously* buggy. > > 1. I killed my old session, and started a new. Many (all?) tabs show > *nothing* until I put my cursor in the URL bar and hit [snip] I reproduced this 1.

Re: [CentOS] Problem with definition of slist in CFEngine

2018-07-27 Thread Meikel
Hi folks and Paul. > Is there any chance that some elements of your info_list become larger > than 4K size limit cfengine places on scalar variables? Mayne the 4K limit ist not the problem here. I did some "shortcutting" and added one more "undefined" variable aaa.bbb.ccc: # cat ./info.cf

Re: [CentOS] Problem with definition of slist in CFEngine

2018-07-27 Thread Meikel
Hi folks and Alexander. > Any really good reason not to update since nearly 1 year? There are two reasons, but maybe they are not "good" reasons :-( First reason is that I'm an admin-beginner with low skills and missing practice. Second reason is that the system is brand new but from an