Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-20 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 10/20/2018 6:23 AM, Matthew Miller wrote: On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:52:12PM -0700, Japheth Cleaver wrote: The wider EL community is trapped between a rock and a hard place somewhat. If you try to direct Fedora into the needs of EL users, you stand a good chance of getting told to pound

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-20 Thread Japheth Cleaver
On 10/19/2018 9:10 PM, Brendan Conoboy wrote: On Fri Oct 19 00:52:12 UTC 2018 Japheth Cleaver wrote: > This brings to mind a video I was pointed to not long ago of Brendan > Conoboy's talk at a Dojo recently: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQsUdLPJW20 Hey, that's me!  Hi.  By the way, Jim

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-20 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, October 20, 2018 11:09 am, Yan Li wrote: > On 10/20/18 8:37 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> Oh, great, I now can see the world with your eyes! And last part about >> servers life cycle wise doesn't sound much different from what I do >> using >> FreeBSD and jails. The only difference is

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-20 Thread Yan Li
On 10/20/18 8:37 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: Oh, great, I now can see the world with your eyes! And last part about servers life cycle wise doesn't sound much different from what I do using FreeBSD and jails. The only difference is maybe in how frequently I have to reboot Linux (any flavor) due to

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-20 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, October 20, 2018 10:22 am, Yan Li wrote: > On 10/20/18 7:42 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> I would like to hear the reasons of those who chose to use Fedora on >> their >> server. Specifically what advantages one has found compared to other >> alternatives. And also what kind of server

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-20 Thread Yan Li
On 10/20/18 7:42 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: I would like to hear the reasons of those who chose to use Fedora on their server. Specifically what advantages one has found compared to other alternatives. And also what kind of server that is. Single user/home/family one? Serving some department or

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-20 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, October 20, 2018 8:23 am, Matthew Miller wrote: > On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:52:12PM -0700, Japheth Cleaver wrote: >> The wider EL community is trapped between a rock and a hard place >> somewhat. If you try to direct Fedora into the needs of EL users, >> you stand a good chance of

Re: [CentOS] Upstream and downstream (was Re: What are the differences between systemd and non-systemd Linux distros?)

2018-10-20 Thread Matthew Miller
On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 05:52:12PM -0700, Japheth Cleaver wrote: > The wider EL community is trapped between a rock and a hard place > somewhat. If you try to direct Fedora into the needs of EL users, > you stand a good chance of getting told to pound stand, and that EL > is getting in the way of