> On Dec 16, 2020, at 6:42 PM, Nate Duehr wrote:
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Matti Pulkkinen"
>
>> As someone who is considering moving to OL, I wonder if you could elaborate
>> clearly on what specific concerns you have, without the insinuation and
>> analogy?
-- Original Message --
From: "Matti Pulkkinen"
As someone who is considering moving to OL, I wonder if you could elaborate
clearly on what specific concerns you have, without the insinuation and
analogy? Oracle's proposition [1] seems pretty straightforward to me.
That they''
Hi Johnny,
> $250K is not even close. That is one employee, when you also take into
> account unemployment insurance, HR, medical insurance etc. now multiply
> that by 8. Now, outfit those 8 employees to work from home .. all over
> the world, different countries, different laws.
>
> .. THEN
-- Original Message --
From: "Rainer Duffner"
So, you will quickly be back to square one, unless you want to run stuff like
Debian or Ubuntu, which are mainly Linux-kernel+some stuff nowadays, whereas
RHEL + CentOS forms a complete system (with additional software that RedHat has
On 12/16/20 12:28 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 12/16/20 10:50 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
>> Why did they change the development process of RHEL .. Because they
>> want to do the development in the community. The current process of
>> RHEL development is closed .. they want it to be open. It is that
On 12/16/20 3:28 PM, Olivier Bonhomme wrote:
>> Hi Olivier,
>>
>> this question got several answers. Since C8 was release updates on
>> announces ML are not available because the tool that provides
>> notification does not work with the new tool that is used to build
>> packages.
>>
>> Actually I
Hi Olivier,
this question got several answers. Since C8 was release updates on
announces ML are not available because the tool that provides
notification does not work with the new tool that is used to build
packages.
Actually I use RHEL advisory, but this require a RH account (not
I had an issue similar to this years ago where I helped out a former
employer on a Dell Poweredge System with a RAID 5 array (Windows). The
system Refused to Boot, but there were lights on the front of the
backplane were the drives slid in, indicating drive fault (amber) or
drive ok (green).
On Wed, 16 Dec 2020 13:57:13 -0700
Paul R. Ganci via CentOS wrote:
> My gut suggests that the raid array was never degraded and that my
> system (i.e. cat /proc/mdstat) was lying to me. Any Opinions?
I wonder if it's a ram failure in either the main computer or the drive
controller. An
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 12:11 PM Lamar Owen wrote:
> > For example, I was messing with kubernetes in a few ways. redhat
> > provides a license for RHEL, that you can use for that purpose for
> > free, BUT you can have only have one license.
> Yes, which makes it a bit difficult to mess around
I have a CentOS 7.9 system with a software raid 6 root partition. Today
something very strange occurred. At 6:45AM the system crashed. I
rebooted and when the system came up I had multiple emails indicating
that 3 out of 6 drives had failed on the root partition. Strangely I was
able to boot
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 09:50:43AM +0100, Mathieu Baudier wrote:
> I guess that all these "side projects" (and SIGs, etc.) will disappear as
> well, won't they?
The FAQ on this isn't super-helpful, unfortunately
(https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/faq-centos-stream-updates#Q7)
That said, I don't see
On 12/16/2020 12:09 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On 12/14/20 10:54 AM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
The article states that CentOS will now be "upstream" of RHEL instead
of "downstream". This is strange to me. I never thought CentOS was
upstream or downstream of RHEL; I always thought it *was* RHEL --
On 12/14/20 10:54 AM, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:
The article states that CentOS will now be "upstream" of RHEL instead
of "downstream". This is strange to me. I never thought CentOS was
upstream or downstream of RHEL; I always thought it *was* RHEL --
perhaps a little delayed, but that's not
On Dec 16, 2020, at 11:54 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> Even out side the maintenance phase .. there will be some bugs that will
> get incorporated into the next point release. Those should be in Stream
> first.
>
> There will never be another 'downstream rhel source code build' done by
> Red Hat.
On 12/16/20 7:13 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> On 12/16/20 12:55 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
>> Off-topic:
>>
>> On 12/16/20 4:11 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
>>> 2.) The enthusiasts who were building their own machines from parts.
>>> That group is small, but they also tend to be very vocal; IT
>>>
On 12/16/20 11:24 AM, John Plemons wrote:
I have a DEC Alpha sitting in my warehouse collecting dust what a
great machine it was.. Was sorry to see Linux Support die for it..
I used to work at a university, where one of my colleagues has (I think
he still has it) a pdp11/10
You know,
On 12/16/20 10:50 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote:
Why did they change the development process of RHEL .. Because they
want to do the development in the community. The current process of
RHEL development is closed .. they want it to be open. It is that simple.
Johnny, let me say first of all thanks for
I have a DEC Alpha sitting in my warehouse collecting dust what a great
machine it was.. Was sorry to see Linux Support die for it..
john
On 12/16/2020 1:18 PM, R C wrote:
On 12/16/20 11:10 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On 12/16/20 11:24 AM, R C wrote:
On 12/16/20 8:11 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
But
On 12/16/20 11:10 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On 12/16/20 11:24 AM, R C wrote:
On 12/16/20 8:11 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
But the Red Hat-based ecosystem version of that second group is
on-topic, as the same sort of enthusiast exists here and has been
very vocal about this change.
Well yes it is, but
On 12/16/20 12:55 PM, Ljubomir Ljubojevic wrote:
Off-topic:
On 12/16/20 4:11 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
2.) The enthusiasts who were building their own machines from parts.
That group is small, but they also tend to be very vocal; IT
professionals often fall into this group, and MS wanted to keep
On 12/16/20 11:24 AM, R C wrote:
On 12/16/20 8:11 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
But the Red Hat-based ecosystem version of that second group is
on-topic, as the same sort of enthusiast exists here and has been
very vocal about this change.
Well yes it is, but it started with a remark about licensing.
On 12/16/20 10:39 AM, Frank Saporito wrote:
I may be cynical, but I think this is a business decision.
By gaining control of CentOS, RedHat gained control of its biggest
(apparent) competitor. This action should increase the value of
RedHat. A few years later, IBM buys RedHat for a
Off-topic:
On 12/16/20 4:11 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
> 2.) The enthusiasts who were building their own machines from parts.
> That group is small, but they also tend to be very vocal; IT
> professionals often fall into this group, and MS wanted to keep them
> happy for all the reasons previously
> On Dec 16, 2020, at 11:38 AM, R C wrote:
>
>
> On 12/16/20 9:45 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> My apologies about top posting.
>>
>> I join Matthew on all counts.
>>
>> The following might sound as a rant, but it is not, given the circumstances
>> we have been put into.
>>
>> First, and
I may be cynical, but I think this is a business decision.
By gaining control of CentOS, RedHat gained control of its biggest
(apparent) competitor. This action should increase the value of
RedHat. A few years later, IBM buys RedHat for a staggering 34 BILLION
dollars. I would expect that
On 12/16/20 9:45 AM, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
My apologies about top posting.
I join Matthew on all counts.
The following might sound as a rant, but it is not, given the circumstances we
have been put into.
First, and most important: thank you CentOS team for all great work you have
done
I would like to echo the thanks in this post, and to add a bit of
information that I have learned doing some quick research on where to
go. Scientific Linux is basically no more, they deferred to Centos and
pretty much ended their distribution.
Oracle seems to be the easiest and quickest
On 12/16/20 10:47 AM, James Pearson wrote:
> Johnny Hughes:
>>>
>>> As others have said, it misses the _really_ important bit about the
>>> traditional CentOS model which is to follow the RHEL ~10 year life cycle
>>> It doesn't matter how good/rock solid/whatever CentOS Stream turns out to
>>>
>
> This is aarch64:
>
> https://people.centos.org/pgreco/CentOS-Userland-8-stream-aarch64-RaspberryPI-Minimal-4/
>
Great! I had missed this one. Thank you.
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Johnny Hughes:
>>
>> As others have said, it misses the _really_ important bit about the
>> traditional CentOS model which is to follow the RHEL ~10 year life cycle
>> It doesn't matter how good/rock solid/whatever CentOS Stream turns out to
>> be, but if it only has a 5 year life cycle for each
My apologies about top posting.
I join Matthew on all counts.
The following might sound as a rant, but it is not, given the circumstances we
have been put into.
First, and most important: thank you CentOS team for all great work you have
done during all these years. As user who used results
This is aarch64:
https://people.centos.org/pgreco/CentOS-Userland-8-stream-aarch64-RaspberryPI-Minimal-4/
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 10:55 AM Mathieu Baudier wrote:
>
> > It's also worth noting that there is a CentOS 8 SD Card image for
> > Raspberry Pi 4. That's what I used. It was dirt simple
On 12/9/20 2:16 AM, Michael Schwartzkopff wrote:
I was searching for DLM for my Centos 8. But it seems there are no
packages available.
The "dlm" kernel module is included in the standard kernel. Locks are
configured with the "pcs" package.
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On 12/16/20 8:11 AM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On 12/15/20 1:24 PM, R C wrote:
What I meant was that MS basically, for the longest while, had their
OS pre-installed on computers sold, so it "felt" free to the buyer,
it came with the machine. Universities and colleges did receive bulk
licenses and
> It's also worth noting that there is a CentOS 8 SD Card image for
> Raspberry Pi 4. That's what I used. It was dirt simple to "install"-
> simply dd the image file to an actual SD card, put it in the RasPi,
> and go! (Allthough in my case, I made some modifications to the
>
Do you mean an
On 12/15/20 9:59 PM, Joshua Kramer wrote:
> On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 7:41 PM Johnny Hughes wrote:
>
>> $250K is not even close. That is one employee, when you also take into
>> account unemployment insurance, HR, medical insurance etc. now multiply
>> that by 8. Now, outfit those 8 employees
On 12/15/20 1:24 PM, R C wrote:
What I meant was that MS basically, for the longest while, had their
OS pre-installed on computers sold, so it "felt" free to the buyer, it
came with the machine. Universities and colleges did receive bulk
licenses and .NET pretty much for free in their
It's also worth noting that there is a CentOS 8 SD Card image for
Raspberry Pi 4. That's what I used. It was dirt simple to "install"-
simply dd the image file to an actual SD card, put it in the RasPi,
and go! (Allthough in my case, I made some modifications to the
filesystems before actually
I asked about this before. As far as CentOS itself is concerned this
is an unknown. For me it's kind of annoying because I just set up a
couple of Raspi 4's with CentOS 8 for a home automation system right
before this announcement was made.
Having said that- there is a little known distro
Am 15.12.20 um 19:35 schrieb Matthew Miller:
On Tue, Dec 15, 2020 at 06:21:17PM +, Phil Perry wrote:
thanks to bring this up - this is a big issue. How could we
communicate this? Bugzilla? Anyone listing here?
Here you go:
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1908047
At the
On Wed, Dec 16, 2020 at 12:16 PM Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> [...]
> I wonder if there's some software that can stream on-demand audio like
> music
> playlists or podcasts. What I'd like to do is host a series of playlists
> (like
> "Radio Show of the week") or podcasts, and then someone who wants
Hi,
about one week ago I asked about the status of the distributed lock
manager DLM in CentoOS.
I could could not find it in any repositories.
I also got no answer on my mail to this list.
So any answer to my question?
Mit freundlichen Grüßen,
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Hi,
Since 2006 I had a streaming audio server based on Icecast and MPD running on
CentOS. It works like a little webradio, e.g. listeners connect to a live
stream with VLC, Audacious or any other client capable of this.
I wonder if there's some software that can stream on-demand audio like music
> Simon Matter wrote:
>>Since security updates for CentOS 6 are not provided anymore, I've
>> decided
>>to try my best to address CVE-2020-1971 and I welcome others to do the
>>same for this and other new issues which may come up.
>
> Thanks to Simon for doing this.
>
> I made my own patch which
Simon Matter wrote:
>Since security updates for CentOS 6 are not provided anymore, I've decided
>to try my best to address CVE-2020-1971 and I welcome others to do the
>same for this and other new issues which may come up.
Thanks to Simon for doing this.
I made my own patch which ended up the
Hello,
given the recent change in direction of CentOS, what will become of the
AltArch repositories? (like CentOS 7 aarch64 and the related kernel
repositories)
I have been experimenting (with some success) with running a regular CentOS
8 aarch64 (ARM 64 bits) on a Raspberry PI 4 (with 4GB RAM),
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