On 2023-07-13 10:28, Tom Bishop wrote:
Eh I beg to differ it's pretty clear that Magnus is calling folks
freeloaders...
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/problem-rocky-linux-free-beer-magnus-glantz/
I've read that article several times, including just now with an eye out
for such an accusation,
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023, 12:17 PM Gordon Messmer
wrote:
> On 2023-07-13 09:00, Tom Bishop wrote:
> > as
> > referenced by one of the many RH articles, we are all just freeloaders
> > so we shouldn't be missed.
>
>
> I don't believe there are any Red Hat articles that call user freeloaders.
>
> I'm
Kudos to everyone's input and lots of intelligent talking points!
After decades of working in enterprise, Fortune 100 or less, I always
struggled as the disruptor, as the open source evangelist, trying to
get decision makers to embrace open source solutions.
Years later, I see that commercial
On 2023-07-13 09:00, Tom Bishop wrote:
as
referenced by one of the many RH articles, we are all just freeloaders
so we shouldn't be missed.
I don't believe there are any Red Hat articles that call user freeloaders.
I'm aware of one personal blog, not on the redhat.com site, in which the
>
> Well, as RH's announcement is quite some day ago, I had time to reflect
> this jumble. The whole thing is much more complex than people want to
> admit and I will not decompose this all here now. Honestly I see
> the open source ecosystem like a hardware store. You have everything
> that you
Hi everyone,
For those who are not aware, the next CentOS Connect will be held in
conjunction with Fedora Flock which is being held August 2-4[0] in Cork,
IE. While the CFP is closed, there is still time to register[1] to attend
and the Schedule[2] is really coming together with a wide range of
> On 2023-07-13 05:11, mario juliano grande-balletta wrote:
>> IBM wants to make money, PERIOD. They paid billions for RedHat and
>> investors, executives, want ROI and profit, period. No excuses.
>>
>> So, they are locking down RedHat and closing channels to important
>> software/materials. It
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 10:48 AM Gordon Messmer
wrote:
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> On 2023-07-13 03:12, Simon Matter wrote:
> > As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux"
> > ecosystem just started to come true.
>
>
> I've been trying to figure out what SUSE meant when they announced a
> "hard
On 2023-07-13 05:11, mario juliano grande-balletta wrote:
IBM wants to make money, PERIOD. They paid billions for RedHat and
investors, executives, want ROI and profit, period. No excuses.
So, they are locking down RedHat and closing channels to important
software/materials. It is what
On 2023-07-13 03:12, Simon Matter wrote:
As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux"
ecosystem just started to come true.
I've been trying to figure out what SUSE meant when they announced a
"hard fork" of RHEL. If they mean to maintain a fork that remains
Am 13.07.23 um 14:42 schrieb Tom Bishop:
I think I finally need to remove myself from the centos mail list but
coming from @redhat worker trying to explain what their company has
done, is pretty disingenuous to say the least. It's pretty clear what
they are trying to do and it's all driven by
Tom nailed it for me, similar boat. We moved to Rocky as a holding position
with their LTS, but it just doesn't make sense any more to use a Redhat
base with any new server.
The trust I think has gone since the Centos rug pull, and that's important.
I do think we'll see some changes to come (I
I have to agree with Tom Bishop. IBM has completely destroyed Red Hat
and it's clones for me. Debian GNU Linux is the next natural step. It
will probably be a mix of Debian GNU Linux, FreeBSD and OpenBSD used.
Let's face the facts, corporate entities have never been the friends of
the Open
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 7:11 AM mario juliano grande-balletta
wrote:
>
> IMHO, there are insider politically correct opinions about the recent
> changes and then, there are the individual opinions of community
> members, end-users and the general public.
>
> IMHO, if you work for RedHat (IBM)
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 8:11 AM mario juliano grande-balletta
wrote:
>
> IMHO, there are insider politically correct opinions about the recent
> changes and then, there are the individual opinions of community
> members, end-users and the general public.
>
> IMHO, if you work for RedHat (IBM)
IMHO, there are insider politically correct opinions about the recent
changes and then, there are the individual opinions of community
members, end-users and the general public.
IMHO, if you work for RedHat (IBM) your opinion could be slightly
biased because of your career.
But, the history of
On Thu, Jul 13, 2023 at 6:13 AM Simon Matter wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux"
> ecosystem just started to come true. I expect this is only the beginning
> and Red Hat may also start to completely hold back sources of non GPL
> software which
Hi,
As I found out yesterday, the fragmentation of the "Enterprise Linux"
ecosystem just started to come true. I expect this is only the beginning
and Red Hat may also start to completely hold back sources of non GPL
software which is part of the "Enterprise Linux" ecosystem.
I'm really
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