Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-30 Thread Cliff Pratt
On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Jake Shipton crazylinuxn...@gmx.com wrote: On 07/29/2011 12:48 PM, Thomas Harold wrote: Heck, I'd settle for people coming back to a problem / issue thread and updating on how or what the actual problem was or what they did to get the thing to work properly.

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-30 Thread Keith Roberts
On Sat, 30 Jul 2011, Cliff Pratt wrote: To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org From: Cliff Pratt enkiduonthe...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors On Sat, Jul 30, 2011 at 12:49 AM, Jake Shipton crazylinuxn...@gmx.com wrote

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-29 Thread Thomas Harold
On 7/28/2011 5:01 PM, Spiro Harvey wrote: the thing is that not all mail clients will set the in-reply-to headers, whuch is why clients like thunderbird, evolution and mutt will use the subject line as well to thread messages. Apple Mail does that too and it makes the threading unusable IMO.

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-29 Thread Steve Clark
On 07/29/2011 07:48 AM, Thomas Harold wrote: On 7/28/2011 5:01 PM, Spiro Harvey wrote: the thing is that not all mail clients will set the in-reply-to headers, whuch is why clients like thunderbird, evolution and mutt will use the subject line as well to thread messages. Apple Mail does that

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-29 Thread Jake Shipton
On 07/29/2011 12:48 PM, Thomas Harold wrote: Heck, I'd settle for people coming back to a problem / issue thread and updating on how or what the actual problem was or what they did to get the thing to work properly. So often you'll see a thread talking about trying X, Y Z, then the

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread ken
On 07/28/2011 09:59 AM Tony Mountifield wrote: In article sig.51907ae09c.caaj3djkxvacpejzzyywuhqspfew2pken93xrfbmbd8jnvsc...@mail.gmail.com, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Keith Roberts ke...@karsites.net wrote: Is that why it's frowned upon to use a

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Marc Deop
Regards, Marc Deop On Thursday 28 July 2011 11:14:38 ken wrote: On 07/28/2011 09:59 AM Tony Mountifield wrote: In article sig.51907ae09c.caaj3djkxvacpejzzyywuhqspfew2pken93xrfbmbd8jnvsc...@mail.gmail.com, Rudi Ahlers r...@softdux.com wrote: On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Keith Roberts

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/28/2011 04:19 PM, Marc Deop wrote: This discussion makes no sense to me. If the email client is using the subject for threading it is doing something wrong (or you specifically set it that way). As Ken said, there are headers used to organize the emails. the thing is that not all

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Marko Vojinovic
On Thursday 28 July 2011 16:52:07 Karanbir Singh wrote: On 07/28/2011 04:19 PM, Marc Deop wrote: This discussion makes no sense to me. If the email client is using the subject for threading it is doing something wrong (or you specifically set it that way). As Ken said, there are

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/28/11 8:52 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: the thing is that not all mail clients will set the in-reply-to headers, whuch is why clients like thunderbird, evolution and mutt will use the subject line as well to thread messages. Its the References: header that controls threading in mail clients

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread John R Pierce
On 07/28/11 10:21 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: So the mail clients that don't set these headers should be fixed, right? I mean, fix the broken software rather than try to fix human habits in order to keep using broken software. a frequent cause of missing References seems to be users who get a

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/28/2011 06:21 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: So the mail clients that don't set these headers should be fixed, right? I mean, fix the broken software rather than try to fix human habits in order to keep using broken software. Habit is an interestion term, same with convention - the fact

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/28/2011 12:32 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 07/28/11 10:21 AM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: So the mail clients that don't set these headers should be fixed, right? I mean, fix the broken software rather than try to fix human habits in order to keep using broken software. a frequent cause of

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Always Learning
On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 18:49 +0100, Thunderbird Fan (KB) wrote: ideally people would stop using yahoo mail / squirrelmail etc. ... and use a *real* email programme ? -- With best regards, Paul. England, EU. ___ CentOS mailing list

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/28/2011 06:23 PM, John R Pierce wrote: Its the References: header that controls threading in mail clients that support it. I'm using thunderbird, and afaik, it won't revert to Subject based pseudo threading in the absence of References. Subject line changes don't break the thread,

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/28/2011 06:53 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: But the thing I'd like mailers to do is to call attention to messages that belong to a thread where I've replied earlier. Is there a way to get thunderbird to do that? yes, I mark email threads I am interested in with a flag, and its easy to

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/28/2011 06:54 PM, Always Learning wrote: On Thu, 2011-07-28 at 18:49 +0100, Thunderbird Fan (KB) wrote: ideally people would stop using yahoo mail / squirrelmail etc. ... and use a *real* email programme ? 'real' is hard to quantify, but an email client that does the right thing

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/28/2011 12:57 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: On 07/28/2011 06:53 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: But the thing I'd like mailers to do is to call attention to messages that belong to a thread where I've replied earlier. Is there a way to get thunderbird to do that? yes, I mark email threads I am

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Jake Shipton
On 07/28/2011 06:54 PM, Karanbir Singh wrote: My argument here is that not all mail clients do, therefore sticking with subject line sanity would help increase the number of threads that can stay together. I agree with KB on this one. Way I see it is, you could go everyone to install a new

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Tony Mountifield
In article 4e319b13.8000...@hogranch.com, John R Pierce pie...@hogranch.com wrote: On 07/28/11 8:52 AM, Karanbir Singh wrote: the thing is that not all mail clients will set the in-reply-to headers, whuch is why clients like thunderbird, evolution and mutt will use the subject line as well

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Spiro Harvey
the thing is that not all mail clients will set the in-reply-to headers, whuch is why clients like thunderbird, evolution and mutt will use the subject line as well to thread messages. Apple Mail does that too and it makes the threading unusable IMO. If the clients are too dumb to adhere to a

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 07/28/2011 10:01 PM, Spiro Harvey wrote: Personally, I like the idea of the [SOLVED] tags because they can indicate when help is no longer needed. There is a fundamental problem with that - this list isnt a support list, its a list of and for people who use CentOS to talk about CentOS. By

Re: [CentOS] Adding the [SOLVED] Tag to break threads -- multiple factors

2011-07-28 Thread Spiro Harvey
There is a fundamental problem with that - this list isnt a support list, its a list of and for people who use CentOS to talk about CentOS. By thinking of it as a one way support system you have reduced the list to essentially a bugtracker / issuetracker / support thread and that in itself