Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Robert Heller Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 4:42 PM To: CentOS mailing list Cc: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? The firmware you mention

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Rob Kampen Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 4:15 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? I have installed and used CentOS on laptops just fine. The last

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of JohnS Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 6:35 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Ok, so what would you guys suggest using on a laptop, if CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-26 Thread Robert Heller
To: CentOS mailing list Cc: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? The firmware you mention, is that used with dkms or something like that? I'm not sure what the firmware does exactly. Look in your /var/log/messages file. There will be some mention

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Lanny Marcus Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:14 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Probably not the best distro for Laptops, but many people

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread William L. Maltby
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 10:56 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Lanny Marcus Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:14 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Heller
To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Probably not the best distro for Laptops, but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops. So what's considered to be the best choice for laptops? I understand mileage may vary and so on, but I

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of William L. Maltby Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Probably not the best distro for Laptops, but many

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Robert Heller Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:52 PM To: CentOS mailing list Cc: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? The *Intel* WiFi-NIC (Intel

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread William L. Maltby
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:02 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of William L. Maltby snip Not likely on this list. More likely, a preponderance, maybe even a majority, but I wouldn't be

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of William L. Maltby Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 3:27 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Ok, so what would you guys suggest using on a laptop

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Rob Kampen
Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of William L. Maltby Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Probably not the best

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Heller
To: CentOS mailing list Cc: 'CentOS mailing list' Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? The *Intel* WiFi-NIC (Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless LAN 2100 3B Mini PCI Adapter) on my IBM Thinkpad X31 worked mostly out-of-the-box. I just needed to download the firmware and I was up

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Heller
To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Probably not the best distro for Laptops, but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops. So what's considered to be the best choice for laptops? I understand mileage may vary and so

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread JohnS
On Mon, 2009-05-25 at 15:02 +0200, Sorin Srbu wrote: -Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of William L. Maltby Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread Robert Heller
, 2009 2:24 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Probably not the best distro for Laptops, but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops. So what's considered to be the best choice for laptops? I understand mileage may

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-25 Thread JohnS
...@centos.org] On Behalf Of William L. Maltby Sent: Monday, May 25, 2009 2:24 PM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Probably not the best distro for Laptops, but many people on this list are using CentOS on their laptops. So

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread przemolicc
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 04:11:35PM +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure.

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread Equinox86
pfff only for office, if you wound a multimedia sistem with the reason mentioned in the mail before this reply centos is not for desktop, i preferred fedora 10, fedora have only 1 lack, have the software too much updated for my taste, but this is minor problem 2009/5/20 Ralph Angenendt

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread Ralph Angenendt
przemol...@poczta.fm wrote: Use debian stable (currently 'lenny'). The philosophy behind stable releases of debian is release updates for packages only if you have security bugs. That way when you run 'apt-get update apt-get upgrade' you download and install only those already _installed_

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread JohnS
On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Ross Walker wrote: On May 20, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a cron job. update yum and then update. a) That manual was written

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread Ross Walker
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Ross Walker wrote: I wonder if yum-updatesd might cache repo data separate from yum cache, in which case some older incompatible cached data from the previous version may still be around causing

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-21 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2009-05-21 at 21:06 -0400, Ross Walker wrote: On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:13 PM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-05-20 at 09:30 -0400, Ross Walker wrote: I wonder if yum-updatesd might cache repo data separate from yum cache, in which case some older incompatible cached

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Robert Heller Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:20 PM To: CentOS mailing list Cc: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? It seems to me that CentOS would

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Frank Cox Sent: Tuesday, May 19, 2009 6:22 PM To: CentOS mailing list Cc: Anne Wilson Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Lanny Marcus Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:28 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? Possibly the best way is for the updates to be setup

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Sorin Srbu
-Original Message- From: centos-boun...@centos.org [mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John Kennedy Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 12:34 AM To: centos@centos.org Cc: Anne Wilson Subject: Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates? As much as I like CentOS, I tend to agree

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Alexx
John Kennedy пишет: On Tuesday 19 May 2009 16:11:35 Anne Wilson wrote: I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100 Anne Wilson wrote: It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to keep it securely patched. I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Lanny Marcus wrote: The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a cron job. update yum and then update. a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken then. b) It is broken again :/ c) yum update yum and then yum update the rest broke things for

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Frank Thommen wrote: Hi Anne, [...] he feels very insecure. It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to keep it securely patched. [...] I'd be glad of any advice. Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other distibution in

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Equinox86
yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly, similar to swiss knife. but if you have a server, probably best

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Equinox86 wrote: yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly, similar to swiss knife. I still call this

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ned Slider
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Equinox86 wrote: yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly, similar to swiss knife.

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Frank Thommen
[...] Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other distibution in this case. Ubuntu might be a good choice or maybe SuSE. Both are probably better suited for non-commandline techies :-). That is utter bullshit. The neat thing about CentOS as a Desktop is that the

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Equinox86 equino...@gmail.com wrote: yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 5:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a cron job. update yum and then update. a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken then. b) It is

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:30 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: Equinox86 wrote: yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware,

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ross Walker
On May 20, 2009, at 6:46 AM, Ralph Angenendt ra+cen...@br-online.de wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a cron job. update yum and then update. a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken then. b) It is

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Robert Heller
At Wed, 20 May 2009 08:14:05 -0500 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Equinox86 equino...@gmail.com wrote: yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Frank Thommen wrote: [...] Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other distibution in this case. Ubuntu might be a good choice or maybe SuSE. Both are probably better suited for non-commandline techies :-). That is utter bullshit. The neat thing about CentOS

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Wednesday 20 May 2009, Ralph Angenendt wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: The NSA manual suggests disabling yum-updatesd and doing it with a cron job. update yum and then update. a) That manual was written at the time of 5.0 - yum-updatesd was broken then. b) It is broken again :/ c) yum update

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Rob Kampen
Ralph Angenendt wrote: Equinox86 wrote: yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much time to spend to recompile dependences i advice use slackware, is fast and desktop friendly, similar to swiss knife.

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread John Doe
While I am very happy with CentOS on my servers and my office workstation, I am using Ubuntu on my home laptop... The main point being: with Ubuntu, everything (wireless, graphic card, etc...) just worked straight away. All the other distros I tried failed on one or more aspects. And debian

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Karanbir Singh
On 05/20/2009 03:55 PM, John Doe wrote: While I am very happy with CentOS on my servers and my office workstation, I am using Ubuntu on my home laptop... The main point being: with Ubuntu, everything (wireless, graphic card, etc...) just worked straight away. All the other distros I tried

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-20 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-20-2009 6:14 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:20 AM, Equinox86 equinox86-re5jqeeqqe8avxtiumw...@public.gmane.org wrote: yes centos is not for desktop it's guaranteee, if you don't have much time and want a distro updated at last release, if you have much

[CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Anne Wilson
I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure. It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Robert Heller
At Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100 CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org wrote: I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 19 May 2009 16:11:35 +0100 Anne Wilson wrote: It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to keep it securely patched. I'm wondering if it's possible to auto-install security updates - for that matter, with so small a set of applications perhaps

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread JohnS
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure. It

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread nate
Anne Wilson wrote: I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure. It seems to me that CentOS would be

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Scott Silva
on 5-19-2009 8:11 AM Anne Wilson spake the following: I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure. It

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Frank Thommen
Hi Anne, [...] he feels very insecure. It seems to me that CentOS would be perfect for him except for the need to keep it securely patched. [...] I'd be glad of any advice. Like a previous poster, I'd also suggest, that you use an other distibution in this case. Ubuntu might be a

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man.  His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread JohnS
On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:37 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail,

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 4:54 PM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 14:37 -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 11:22 AM, JohnS jse...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2009-05-19 at 16:11 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote: I've been asked to think about setting up an

Re: [CentOS] Auto-installing security updates?

2009-05-19 Thread John Kennedy
On Tuesday 19 May 2009 16:11:35 Anne Wilson wrote: I've been asked to think about setting up an installation for a recently- widowed man. His needs are small - mail, Internet, on-line banking, basically - but his wife dealt with all of it on her laptop and he feels very insecure. It seems