On 9.4.2011 01:42, Timothy Murphy wrote:
I think I could have done it with http,
at least it linked to my web-server.
But I agree with you that NFS is much the easier way.
NFS method requires you to run a nfs server. This is not easy if you are
not running nfs service at your site. You have
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 10:04 PM, William Hooper whooper...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
In my case, at least, I would always run a Live CD before installing an OS,
just to make sure it runs OK.
So a person might well have a Live USB
On 4/9/11 5:13 AM, Markus Falb wrote:
I think I could have done it with http,
at least it linked to my web-server.
But I agree with you that NFS is much the easier way.
NFS method requires you to run a nfs server. This is not easy if you are
not running nfs service at your site. You have to
On 8.4.2011 02:54, Les Mikesell wrote:
On 4/7/11 7:28 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
I assume that the lack of a CD drive on the HP micro-server
is a sign of things to come,
so I would hope there would be an official method of installing CentOS
on such a machine.
I think
On 7 Apr 2011, at 00:18, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS
on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear.
I keep a USB CD drive to hand for servers without optical drives.
Slightly defeatist but much easier; just
Les Mikesell wrote:
I tried dd-ing this to /dev/sdb (the USB stick).
[tim@helen dvd]$ sudo cp images/diskboot.img /tmp
[tim@helen dvd]$ cd /tmp
[tim@helen tmp]$ sudo dd if=diskboot.img of=/dev/sdb
24576+0 records in
24576+0 records out
12582912 bytes (13 MB) copied, 0.766341 seconds,
On 08/04/11 11:28, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
I re-formatted the USB stick under Windows,
and tried dd-ing diskboot.img to /dev/sdb1
but the outcome was the same.
I'll try again, now that I'm sure what you mean.
You might also have some luck with unetbootin
Tom Grace wrote:
You might also have some luck with unetbootin
(http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/), might also be in the CentOS repos.
Yes, thanks, that was suggested before,
and I have noted it as a possibility.
But I'd like to get a more CentOS-centred method working, if I can.
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On 4/8/11 5:28 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
It should go to the raw disk device, not a partition and you shouldn't
need to
format first.
The reason I re-formatted it was that fdisk said
there was no valid partition table after dd-ing bootdisk.img onto /dev/sdb .
I thought small usb devices
Timothy Murphy wrote on 04/07/2011 08:47 AM:
Network Installation from CentOS Live CD will no longer be available.
(Why not, as a matter of interest?)
Because network installs tend to be problematic for all but those with
local repositories or flawless broadband network connections. Having it
Markus Falb wrote:
Yes, my memory isn't that great, but it is in the install guide:
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Installation_Guide-en-
US/ch02s04.html#id3098219
I did try the dd method again, but it didn't work for me.
My memory isnt great neither. There is a boot.iso mentioned
Les Mikesell wrote:
On 4/8/11 5:28 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
It should go to the raw disk device, not a partition and you shouldn't
need to format first.
The reason I re-formatted it was that fdisk said
there was no valid partition table after dd-ing bootdisk.img onto
/dev/sdb .
I
On 8.4.2011 14:58, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Markus Falb wrote:
A more manual way to make usb stick bootable is described instead.
Maybe you have more luck with that.
dd method is not mentioned anymore.
Thanks for that.
This method did work, although there is an error in the description,
On 4/8/2011 8:15 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
On 4/8/11 5:28 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
It should go to the raw disk device, not a partition and you shouldn't
need to format first.
The reason I re-formatted it was that fdisk said
there was no valid partition table after
On 4/8/2011 7:58 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Yes, my memory isn't that great, but it is in the install guide:
http://www.centos.org/docs/5/html/Installation_Guide-en-
US/ch02s04.html#id3098219
I did try the dd method again, but it didn't work for me.
I still don't understand what is going
Les Mikesell wrote:
USB disks _can_ have partitions (obviously, since you can stick about
any drive into a usb adapter), but small ones typically don't and you
don't need them to boot. The bootdisk.img layout appears to be a vfat
on the raw disk (no partitioning) with syslinux configure to
On 4/8/2011 7:55 AM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
Timothy Murphy wrote on 04/07/2011 08:47 AM:
Network Installation from CentOS Live CD will no longer be available.
(Why not, as a matter of interest?)
Because network installs tend to be problematic for all but those with
local repositories or
Phil Schaffner wrote:
Because network installs tend to be problematic for all but those with
local repositories or flawless broadband network connections. Having it
present was raising unrealistic expectations of netinstall as a viable
option, and resulting in bad first experiences with
Markus Falb wrote:
Maybe you have more luck with that.
dd method is not mentioned anymore.
Thanks for that.
This method did work, although there is an error in the description,
which slightly confused me.
You could file a bug in Upstream Vendors bugzilla ;-)
I'll try that, though I
On 4/8/2011 1:22 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
USB disks _can_ have partitions (obviously, since you can stick about
any drive into a usb adapter), but small ones typically don't and you
don't need them to boot. The bootdisk.img layout appears to be a vfat
on the raw disk (no partitioning) with
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
Phil Schaffner wrote:
Because network installs tend to be problematic for all but those with
local repositories or flawless broadband network connections. Having it
present was raising unrealistic expectations of
On Friday, April 08, 2011 02:22:47 PM Timothy Murphy wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
USB disks _can_ have partitions (obviously, since you can stick about
any drive into a usb adapter),
The instructions in http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-
US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Installation_Guide/
William Hooper wrote:
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 2:31 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
Phil Schaffner wrote:
snip
The issues you saw with grub being installed on the USB stick instead of
the HDD are a bigger concern in my book. I wonder if you you have
better luck installing GRUB on
Les Mikesell wrote on 04/08/2011 02:27 PM:
None of that applies to NFS installs against locally downloaded isos -
which is the fastest/easiest approach to a full set of install choices
unless it is your first machine and you don't have anything to act as
the server.
Agreed. In my mind that
On 4/8/2011 3:19 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
None of that applies to NFS installs against locally downloaded isos -
which is the fastest/easiest approach to a full set of install choices
unless it is your first machine and you don't have anything to act as
the server.
Agreed. In my mind that
William Hooper wrote on 04/08/2011 03:50 PM:
Forgive me if I've missed it mentioned, but it looks like the option
is only being removed from the LiveCD. Using the netinstall.iso is
still available and would be a more efficient way of doing network
installs anyway (9.5M vs 685M).
Precisely.
Les Mikesell wrote on 04/08/2011 04:29 PM:
Why force people to burn two disks when they
would only need one?
You are welcome to debate that with the LiveCD maintainer, or to roll
your own version including the option, but as a guy who has spent a lot
of time answering the newbies on the forum
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on 04/08/2011 04:10 PM:
..
What you have to do is tell it no bootloader, then before you reboot at
the end of the install, usef-2 or whatever to get to another screen,
then... lessee, I forget if it's mounted the install as /mnt/sysimage or
not, but mount your /boot on
On 4/8/2011 3:35 PM, Phil Schaffner wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote on 04/08/2011 04:29 PM:
Why force people to burn two disks when they
would only need one?
You are welcome to debate that with the LiveCD maintainer, or to roll
your own version including the option, but as a guy who has spent a
Phil Schaffner wrote:
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on 04/08/2011 04:10 PM:
..
What you have to do is tell it no bootloader, then before you reboot at
the end of the install, usef-2 or whatever to get to another screen,
then... lessee, I forget if it's mounted the install as /mnt/sysimage or
not,
m.r...@5-cent.us wrote on 04/08/2011 04:56 PM:
In a standard install? I'll look, but don't remember that option.
It is present, but easy to overlook.
Phil
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On Friday, April 08, 2011 04:42:59 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
Did anyone tell them how easy an nfs install is?
That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We certainly
don't do nfs here.
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On 4/8/2011 4:26 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
On Friday, April 08, 2011 04:42:59 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
Did anyone tell them how easy an nfs install is?
That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We
certainly don't do nfs here.
If this isn't your first install, you are a
On Friday, April 08, 2011 05:43:03 PM Les Mikesell wrote:
On 4/8/2011 4:26 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We
certainly don't do nfs here.
If this isn't your first install, you are a couple of commands away from
having one.
On 4/8/2011 4:48 PM, Lamar Owen wrote:
That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We
certainly don't do nfs here.
If this isn't your first install, you are a couple of commands away from
having one. Faster/easier than burning yet another iso or 7.
That makes the
Lamar Owen wrote:
USB disks _can_ have partitions (obviously, since you can stick about
any drive into a usb adapter),
The instructions in http://docs.redhat.com/docs/en-
US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/5/html/Installation_Guide/
certainly advise making a partition /dev/sdb1
with partition
Les Mikesell wrote:
That makes the assumption that there is an nfs server available. We
certainly don't do nfs here.
If this isn't your first install, you are a couple of commands away from
having one. Faster/easier than burning yet another iso or 7.
That makes the assumption I haven't
Les Mikesell wrote:
I did try the dd method again, but it didn't work for me.
I still don't understand what is going wrong for you. I just went
through these motions:
download the bootdisk.img file from:
http://mirror.highspeedweb.net/CentOS/5.5/os/i386/images/
then
dd
Phil Schaffner wrote:
You are welcome to debate that with the LiveCD maintainer, or to roll
your own version including the option, but as a guy who has spent a lot
of time answering the newbies on the forum who got tripped up by it, I
fully support the decision.
If you feel that, why not
Phil Schaffner wrote:
Forgive me if I've missed it mentioned, but it looks like the option
is only being removed from the LiveCD. Using the netinstall.iso is
still available and would be a more efficient way of doing network
installs anyway (9.5M vs 685M).
Precisely.
In my case, at
On 4/8/11 7:12 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
I did try the dd method again, but it didn't work for me.
I still don't understand what is going wrong for you. I just went
through these motions:
download the bootdisk.img file from:
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Thanks, it did work this time when I got the file from the above site
(given that it is diskboot.img not bootdisk.img).
The only difference I can see is that previously I took the file
from the CentOS 64-bit DVD ISO (loop-mounted).
On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 8:56 PM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
Phil Schaffner wrote:
Forgive me if I've missed it mentioned, but it looks like the option
is only being removed from the LiveCD. Using the netinstall.iso is
still available and would be a more efficient way of doing
William Hooper wrote:
Still works - can just copy vmlinuz and initrd.img from the
images/pxeboot/ or isolinux/ directories and add a GRUB (or whatever
bootloader) stanza to boot them.
So you believe this newbie who is confused by NFS
is going to follow that advice?
I didn't make the
Les Mikesell wrote:
If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS
on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear.
I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is
in the /images on the CD or DVD isos on a USB drive (you can use a
On 4/7/11 7:47 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS
on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear.
I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is
in the /images on the CD or DVD
On 7.4.2011 14:47, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS
on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear.
I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is
in the /images on the CD or DVD
Timothy Murphy wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS
on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear.
snip
I know if you search this mailinglist's archives, you'll find my post from
last year; a quick google found it this way
On 4/7/2011 8:14 AM, Markus Falb wrote:
I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is
in the /images on the CD or DVD isos on a USB drive (you can use a
loopback mount to get it if you can't find a place to download it
separately), boot from it, pick nfs as the
On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote:
There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to
confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub.
The thing to watch for with this is Disk ordering in the grub setup
(only in the graphical installer). Generally
Tom Grace wrote:
On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote:
There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to
confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub.
The thing to watch for with this is Disk ordering in the grub setup
(only in the graphical
On 4/7/2011 9:52 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Tom Grace wrote:
On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote:
There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to
confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install grub.
The thing to watch for with this is Disk ordering
Les Mikesell wrote:
On 4/7/2011 9:52 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
Tom Grace wrote:
On 07/04/11 15:40, Les Mikesell wrote:
There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to
confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install
grub.
The thing to watch for with
On 4/7/2011 10:08 AM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote:
There is one quirk about USB booting that I forgot: it is likely to
confuse the installer's concept of disk names and where to install
grub.
The thing to watch for with this is Disk ordering in the grub setup
(only in the graphical installer).
Markus Falb wrote:
I assume that the lack of a CD drive on the HP micro-server
is a sign of things to come,
so I would hope there would be an official method of installing CentOS
on such a machine.
I think what Les suggested is one official supported method as outlined
in the
Les Mikesell wrote:
I assume that the lack of a CD drive on the HP micro-server
is a sign of things to come,
so I would hope there would be an official method of installing CentOS
on such a machine.
I think what Les suggested is one official supported method as outlined
in the
On 4/7/11 7:28 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
Les Mikesell wrote:
I assume that the lack of a CD drive on the HP micro-server
is a sign of things to come,
so I would hope there would be an official method of installing CentOS
on such a machine.
I think what Les suggested is one official
Timothy Murphy wrote:
I've looked quite carefully at my CentOS-5.5 Live CD (on a USB stick),
and I don't see a Network Install option anywhere.
Try hitting the space bar during the Automatic boot countdown screen.
That should give you the boot menu with the option to do the network
On 4/6/11 6:17 PM, Timothy Murphy wrote:
If anyone can suggest a simpler way of installing CentOS
on a machine without a CD drive I should be interested to hear.
I thought I did that a long time ago. Put the small boot.img file that is in
the /images on the CD or DVD isos on a USB drive
On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 11:33 AM, Timothy Murphy gayle...@eircom.net wrote:
According to http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveCD5.5
There is a Network Install option on the Live CD
that is the same as our CentOS-5.5-i386-netinstall ISO.
I've looked quite carefully at my
According to http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveCD5.5
There is a Network Install option on the Live CD
that is the same as our CentOS-5.5-i386-netinstall ISO.
I've looked quite carefully at my CentOS-5.5 Live CD (on a USB stick),
and I don't see a Network Install option
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