Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-05 Thread Nikos Gatsis - Qbit
On 3/12/2012 2:00 μμ, centos-requ...@centos.org wrote: In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in PHP that is straight, however I am learning

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Scott Robbins
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 10:46:29PM -0500, Stephen Harris wrote: On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 05:54:06PM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: I once knew my way around the 'rules' in the .cf file. thats truly some evil arcane magic in there. My old SA interviews used to include a line of

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Joseph Spenner
On 12/2/2012 3:52 PM, Harold Pritchett wrote: you are a sendmail expert.    I too have been using sendmail for umpteen years (since the early 90s with UUCP, anyways), and feel comfortable in it, and haven't to date been willing to put in the effort to switch.. The OP, on the other

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 03.12.2012 20:13, schrieb Joseph Spenner: I agree. When first trying to configure sendmail years ago, I remember how painful it was. Giving birth to a flaming porcupine, comes to mind. Postfix is about as easy as I was always thinking sendmail should be. Now if only they'd do

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 03.12.2012 02:54, schrieb John R Pierce: I once knew my way around the 'rules' in the .cf file. thats truly some evil arcane magic in there. Well, yes. I once knew how to program in assembly language, too. But that's not argument for or against Sendmail. The .cf file is a generated

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/3/2012 2:46 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: Am 03.12.2012 02:54, schrieb John R Pierce: I once knew my way around the 'rules' in the .cf file. thats truly some evil arcane magic in there. Well, yes. I once knew how to program in assembly language, too. But that's not argument for or

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-03 Thread Gé Weijers
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:22 PM, Phil Dobbin bukowskis...@gmail.com wrote: Whilst bowing in due deference to people who've been using *nix/Linux since it required a piece of string, two tin cans coven in order to achieve results, I was under the impression that nowadays, unless you actually

[CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Todd Cary
In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in PHP that is straight, however I am learning how to use Concrete5 for my local Rotary club and it

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Eero Volotinen
2012/12/2 Todd Cary t...@aristesoftware.com: In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in PHP that is straight, however I am learning how to use

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/02/2012 08:09 PM, Eero Volotinen wrote: 2012/12/2 Todd Cary t...@aristesoftware.com: In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in PHP that

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Alexander Dalloz
Am 02.12.2012 20:53, schrieb Todd Cary: In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in PHP that is straight, however I am learning how to use

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Tilman Schmidt
Am 02.12.2012 21:09, schrieb Eero Volotinen: 2012/12/2 Todd Cary t...@aristesoftware.com: In reading my Linux Admin books and looking at the help files I am confused about what entries to enter into sendmail.mc. To date I have not had to configure sendmail since I use a class in PHP that is

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/2/2012 2:46 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: Not a good advice for someone who already has some experience with Sendmail but none with Postfix. He'll have to read docs either way, but staying with Sendmail spares him the effort of reinstallation (including probable breakage of his running

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Harold Pritchett
On 12/2/2012 6:08 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 12/2/2012 2:46 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: Not a good advice for someone who already has some experience with Sendmail but none with Postfix. He'll have to read docs either way, but staying with Sendmail spares him the effort of reinstallation

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Brian Mathis
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Harold Pritchett har...@uga.edu wrote: On 12/2/2012 6:08 PM, John R Pierce wrote: On 12/2/2012 2:46 PM, Tilman Schmidt wrote: Not a good advice for someone who already has some experience with Sendmail but none with Postfix. He'll have to read docs either way,

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Vlad K.
On 12/02/2012 08:53 PM, Todd Cary wrote: PHP that is straight, however I am learning how to use Concrete5 for my local Rotary club and it apparently needs sendmail. Are you sure it requires the Sendmail MTA, or just the sendmail (compatible) binary (which is actually what PHP requires by

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/2/2012 3:52 PM, Harold Pritchett wrote: Why? Once upon a time, many years ago, I tried postfix. I ended up removing it and installing sendmail. I've been using sendmail since the early 1980's, when we were running the Eric Allman code from UCB on a VAX 780 under BCD Unix. And,

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Brian Mathis brian.mathis+cen...@betteradmin.com wrote: Conceptually, the fact that sendmail requires a makefile and a bunch of macros just to generate the configuration pretty clearly points to *something* being wrong, or at least anachronistic, with the

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread John R Pierce
On 12/2/2012 5:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: If you don't like things that use traditional unix tools for the purposes they were designed, why are you interested in using linux at all? From a user perspective making a few changes to sendmail.mc and restarting the sendmail service is quite easy.

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Phil Dobbin
On 12/03/2012 01:54 AM, John R Pierce wrote: On 12/2/2012 5:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: If you don't like things that use traditional unix tools for the purposes they were designed, why are you interested in using linux at all? From a user perspective making a few changes to sendmail.mc and

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Les Mikesell
On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM, Phil Dobbin bukowskis...@gmail.com wrote: If you don't like things that use traditional unix tools for the purposes they were designed, why are you interested in using linux at all? From a user perspective making a few changes to sendmail.mc and restarting the

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Ron Loftin
On Mon, 2012-12-03 at 02:22 +, Phil Dobbin wrote: On 12/03/2012 01:54 AM, John R Pierce wrote: On 12/2/2012 5:47 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: If you don't like things that use traditional unix tools for the purposes they were designed, why are you interested in using linux at all? From

Re: [CentOS] How to configure sendmail

2012-12-02 Thread Stephen Harris
On Sun, Dec 02, 2012 at 05:54:06PM -0800, John R Pierce wrote: I once knew my way around the 'rules' in the .cf file. thats truly some evil arcane magic in there. My old SA interviews used to include a line of sendmail.cf to see if the applicant recognised it. At the time (SunOS 4,