Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-05-01 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 01:48, Les Mikesell lesmikes...@gmail.com wrote: On 4/30/11 4:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Les, I don't understand you, sorry. You talk about something that I didn't ask for. You seem to make something of this thread that it isn't. You asked for something 'centos-y'.  And

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-30 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Paul Johnson wrote on Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:17:23 -0500: After that, what am I legally required to do? This is not the place to ask. I've just read that document and it seems to say that you could take all of the RPMs exactly as they are built by RedHat and include them on a disk, and you can

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-30 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/30/11 6:31 AM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: This list once was a valuable peer-to-peer support list but has been turning into a meta-centos/rhel discussion list lately. There was already a lot of off-topic linux-only stuff on it in the past that didn't qualify for centosy things, but that at

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-30 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Les Mikesell wrote on Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:33:21 -0500: But the difference from upstream is really the only thing specifically centosy, and since it's binary compatible, that would leave us discussing the artwork Besides, we are just twiddling our thumbs here. Are we? I don't see this

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-30 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/30/11 1:09 PM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: But the difference from upstream is really the only thing specifically centosy, and since it's binary compatible, that would leave us discussing the artwork Besides, we are just twiddling our thumbs here. Are we? I don't see this and I don't

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-30 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 21:56, NOYK service.acco...@insightbb.com wrote: Given the difficulty of getting Centos 6 released - maybe this is not the correct group to ask. Just saying. ;) It seems to me that is exactly why he was asking. The OP doesn't really want to create Paul Linux, he wants

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-30 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Les, I don't understand you, sorry. You talk about something that I didn't ask for. You seem to make something of this thread that it isn't. it's hard to complain about the topic of how RHEL differs from Centos Are you referring to this thread? It's not about differences. It's about how to

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-30 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/30/11 4:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl wrote: Les, I don't understand you, sorry. You talk about something that I didn't ask for. You seem to make something of this thread that it isn't. You asked for something 'centos-y'. And there really is nothing specific to centos other than it's differences

[CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Paul Johnson
The bickering here about Centos 6 has made me wonder what is actually legally necessary to re-distribute the RPM files that come with RHel6. I am not starting a flame ware, I hope. I'm just curious about what is minimally necessary go from RHel6 to another distribution. I suppose we could

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread R - elists
call redhat legal and/or please take this up with your own paul legal counsel this is not the place - rh ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/29/2011 11:17 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: The bickering here about Centos 6 has made me wonder what is actually legally necessary to re-distribute the RPM files that come with RHel6. I am not starting a flame ware, I hope. I'm just curious about what is minimally necessary go from RHel6

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Todd Rinaldo
On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 04/29/2011 11:17 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: The bickering here about Centos 6 has made me wonder what is actually legally necessary to re-distribute the RPM files that come with RHel6. I am not starting a flame ware, I hope. I'm just

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Digimer
On 04/29/2011 01:26 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: I've always been surprised that CentOS ships /etc/redhat-release given the above paragraph. Probably a programmatic requirement, if I was the betting type. -- Digimer E-Mail: digi...@alteeve.com AN!Whitepapers: http://alteeve.com Node Assassin:

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread John R Pierce
On 04/29/11 10:26 AM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: I've always been surprised that CentOS ships /etc/redhat-release given the above paragraph. I've always been annoyed that file isn't /etc/release like many other unix systems. or at least symlinked as such.

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/29/2011 11:17 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: Which of the RPM files in RH6 have proprietary software in them? Those cannot be re-distributed as is? I figure there must be something, because I installed the test version of SL6 back in January and it locked up in disk recognition, whereas RH6 did

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread John Hinton
On 4/29/2011 1:46 PM, Digimer wrote: On 04/29/2011 01:26 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: I've always been surprised that CentOS ships /etc/redhat-release given the above paragraph. Probably a programmatic requirement, if I was the betting type. I could easily be confused as it has been so long now...

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread NOYK
Subject: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6? The bickering here about Centos 6 has made me wonder what is actually legally necessary to re-distribute the RPM files that come with RHel6. I am not starting a flame ware, I hope. I'm just curious about what is minimally necessary go

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Eric Viseur
On top of that, it just seems logical granted the RHEL binary compatibility thing. It's used by many apps to detect the distro you're using, so... 2011/4/29 John Hinton webmas...@ew3d.com On 4/29/2011 1:46 PM, Digimer wrote: On 04/29/2011 01:26 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: I've always been

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread m . roth
John Hinton wrote: On 4/29/2011 1:46 PM, Digimer wrote: On 04/29/2011 01:26 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: I've always been surprised that CentOS ships /etc/redhat-release given the above paragraph. Probably a programmatic requirement, if I was the betting type. I could easily be confused as it

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/29/2011 2:01 PM, m.r...@5-cent.us wrote: Am I required to remember everything I did from that long back? LOL There might be some stuff in the archives though... back in the early ver. 3 days. Actually, it annoys me - it *should* be LSB release, not redhat, I always thought. Well, if

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Brunner, Brian T.
centos-boun...@centos.org wrote: Given the difficulty of getting Centos 6 released - maybe this is not the correct group to ask. Just saying. ;) Actually, telling us just how hard and complex and detail-burdened it would be to kick off BlueSox, a homolog to CentOS rebuilding of RedHat, might

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/29/2011 2:16 PM, Brunner, Brian T. wrote: 3: Being so careful with the fine details that businesses world-wide trust your statement It's Done. Part of the must-be-perfect requirement for release seems to be imposed by the package name/version compatibility with upstream. There's no way

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Lamar Owen
[This reply isn't directed at John; his message just makes a good place to reply] On Friday, April 29, 2011 02:50:27 PM John Hinton wrote: Am I required to remember everything I did from that long back? LOL There might be some stuff in the archives though... back in the early ver. 3

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/29/2011 12:26 PM, Todd Rinaldo wrote: On Apr 29, 2011, at 11:43 AM, Johnny Hughes wrote: On 04/29/2011 11:17 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: The bickering here about Centos 6 has made me wonder what is actually legally necessary to re-distribute the RPM files that come with RHel6. I am not

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Paul Johnson
That good faith effort is required for all packages (GPL or not). And yes, it is legally necessary make that good faith effort not to infringe upon someone else's trademarks. This is specifically called out here: http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/trademark/ I've just read that

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, April 29, 2011 03:49:47 PM Paul Johnson wrote: I've just read that document and it seems to say that you could take all of the RPMs exactly as they are built by RedHat and include them on a disk, and you can label the disk Centos 6, and you are completely within the guidelines.

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/29/2011 02:49 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: That good faith effort is required for all packages (GPL or not). And yes, it is legally necessary make that good faith effort not to infringe upon someone else's trademarks. This is specifically called out here:

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Les Mikesell
On 4/29/2011 3:08 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: But, legally, yes, someone COULD distribute some of the RH files. I thought these days you couldn't get the binaries in the first place without also getting a support contract where the terms you agree to say you can only install on the licensed

Re: [CentOS] I have RHel6. How does that turn into Centos 6?

2011-04-29 Thread Johnny Hughes
On 04/29/2011 03:16 PM, Les Mikesell wrote: On 4/29/2011 3:08 PM, Johnny Hughes wrote: But, legally, yes, someone COULD distribute some of the RH files. I thought these days you couldn't get the binaries in the first place without also getting a support contract where the terms you agree