--On Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:04 AM +0100 Always Learning
cen...@u61.u22.net wrote:
You need to do a little on-line reading about USB (the effective
replacement for Centronics (parallel) ports and RS232/RS423 serial
ports. Also about the PCI replacement called PCI-Express.
I see USB as
--On Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:57 PM -0700 John R Pierce
pie...@hogranch.com wrote:
the x86_64 architecture has teh same basic instructions as x86_32, but
with more registers which are also wider 64 bit registers.
As someone who coded in assembler for PDP-11, PDP-10, 8086, and 68000, I
On Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:38:30 PM Drew wrote:
The older ISA (now called PATA = Parallel ATA) has been replaced by SATA
(Serial ATA). SATA has 3 speeds. Most new disks are either SATA 2 or
SATA 3 speed.
IDE I assume you meant. :) ISA was the old bus PCI replaced.
Yes, but,
On 08/24/11 12:05 AM, Kenneth Porter wrote:
As someone who coded in assembler for PDP-11, PDP-10, 8086, and 68000, I
have to report that more registers is a Very Good Thing. Just how many more
registers do you get when going to 64-bit?
indeed, thats the main performance gain, other than the
On 08/24/2011 01:59 AM John R Pierce wrote:
On 08/23/11 9:21 PM, ken wrote:
I haven't looked up and compared the lists of instructions
on 32- vs. 64-bit CPUs, but generally the bigger processors have more,
and more sophisticated, instructions. This means, e.g., that instead of
taking 20
On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Thomas Dukes tdu...@sc.rr.com wrote:
I would like to upgrade my system to a 64 bit machine. I'd like to find a
bare bones platform to build on. I'm not looking to spend a lot of money on
this as it is a home system. I looked on the CentOS sponsor page but only
--On Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:17 PM -0400 Thomas Dukes tdu...@sc.rr.com
wrote:
I need PCI slots for an additional NIC and a 32 bit video capture card
used for zoneminder.
Check with the zoneminder people to see what video capture options you can
get today that will work with their code.
Kenneth Porter wrote:
--On Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:17 PM -0400 Thomas Dukes
tdu...@sc.rr.com
wrote:
I need PCI slots for an additional NIC and a 32 bit video capture card
used for zoneminder.
Check with the zoneminder people to see what video capture options you can
get today that will
On Wed, 24 Aug 2011, Always Learning wrote:
To: CentOS mailing list centos@centos.org
From: Always Learning cen...@u61.u22.net
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
I suggest:
mini-tower / half-tower
AMD 4 core processor with virtualization facility
On 08/24/11 1:16 PM, Keith Roberts wrote:
Ebay sell SATA - PATA and vica versa adapters, plus others.
So you should be able to use existing PATA drives on a newer
SATA m/b with the right adapter.
not even worth the bother. SATA DVD-RW drives that are probably 6X
better than the last ATA
Well!! This has been an adventure. I really appreciate all the help!!
Found this on tigerdirect:
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=4
01989sku=B69-1317
Again, any advice, comments, etc., regarding any incompatibilites would be
welcomed!!
TIA,
Eddie
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 21:16 +0100, Keith Roberts wrote:
Ebay sell SATA - PATA and vica versa adapters, plus others.
So you should be able to use existing PATA drives on a newer
SATA m/b with the right adapter.
I was trying to avoid mentioning that 'name' in case one of the readers
got
On Wed, 2011-08-24 at 13:19 -0700, John R Pierce wrote:
not even worth the bother. SATA DVD-RW drives that are probably 6X
better than the last ATA versions are $19. SATA hard disks are dirt
cheap for terabytes.
Wish we had those low prices in England. Buyers should be aware that
HDDs
I would like to upgrade my system to a 64 bit machine. I'd like to find a
bare bones platform to build on. I'm not looking to spend a lot of money on
this as it is a home system. I looked on the CentOS sponsor page but only
saw hosting services.
I haven't kept up with hardware in years so I'm
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org
[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Dukes
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:18 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
I would like to upgrade my system to a 64 bit machine. I'd
On 08/23/11 5:17 PM, Thomas Dukes wrote:
I would like to upgrade my system to a 64 bit machine. I'd like to find a
bare bones platform to build on. I'm not looking to spend a lot of money on
this as it is a home system. I looked on the CentOS sponsor page but only
saw hosting services.
I
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From: centos-boun...@centos.org
[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:26 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On 08/23/11 5:17 PM, Thomas Dukes wrote:
I would like
I suggest:
mini-tower / half-tower
AMD 4 core processor with virtualization facility
(AMD are cheaper than Intel in Europe)
(if buying Intel get the virtualization facility)
8 GB RAM
motherboard
with PCI Express and 1
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 20:40 -0400, Thomas Dukes wrote:
What determines if it's a 64 bit machine? Dual core?
Dual core = 2 CPUs effectively.
Quad core = 4 CPUs on the same piece of Silicon
64 bit = more advance instruction set which replaces all the older 32
bit instruction set CPUs. 64 bit
On 08/23/11 5:40 PM, Thomas Dukes wrote:
any Intel Core 2 or newer, or AMD Opteron processor from
about 3-4 years
ago or newer would suit you just fine. the newest ones have
4+ cores.
What determines if it's a 64 bit machine? Dual core?
no, the CPU itself. btw, I meant to say Athlon,
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[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Always Learning
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 8:39 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
I suggest:
mini-tower / half-tower
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 20:57 -0400, Thomas Dukes wrote:
The machines I have now have been rock
solid and I bought them used. They are like me, old.
Just because something is old, one shouldn't automatically thrown it
away :-)
You need to do a little on-line reading about USB (the
On 08/23/11 5:57 PM, Thomas Dukes wrote:
8 GB RAM
Was wanting at least 4GB would settle for 2.
on the upper grades of the current Intel CPUs (for instance, the CoreI7
4 and 6 core processors), there are three memory channels, and right now
the best bang per buck is 4GB DIMMs, so you get
On Tuesday 23 August 2011 20:17, Thomas Dukes wrote:
I haven't kept up with hardware in years so I'm dumber than dirt on
what's out there. I would prefer a desktop so I can stack it. Don't
think I need to do the Xeon as that would be overkill for a home
user.
I suggest looking at the system
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[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Always Learning
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:04 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 20:57 -0400, Thomas Dukes
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[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:14 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On 08/23/11 5:57 PM, Thomas Dukes wrote:
8
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[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of Yves Bellefeuille
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 9:25 PM
To: CentOS mailing list
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On Tuesday 23 August 2011 20:17, Thomas Dukes
On 08/23/11 6:40 PM, Thomas Dukes wrote:
I saw the i7's but I'm getting confused about dual core. Is the i7 thing a
new speed instead of Mghz?
the Core I series comes in a series of different processor subfamilies,
I3, I5, I7... and individual members of each of these has different
specs.
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[mailto:centos-boun...@centos.org] On Behalf Of John R Pierce
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 10:00 PM
To: centos@centos.org
Subject: Re: [CentOS] OT: Hardware upgrade help
On 08/23/11 6:40 PM, Thomas Dukes wrote:
I saw
What determines if it's a 64 bit machine? Dual core?
Dual core = 2 CPUs effectively.
Quad core = 4 CPUs on the same piece of Silicon
64 bit = more advance instruction set which replaces all the older 32
bit instruction set CPUs. 64 bit is more modern than 32 bit and that is
the way
The older ISA (now called PATA = Parallel ATA) has been replaced by SATA
(Serial ATA). SATA has 3 speeds. Most new disks are either SATA 2 or
SATA 3 speed.
IDE I assume you meant. :) ISA was the old bus PCI replaced.
--
Drew
Nothing in life is to be feared. It is only to be understood.
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 19:37 -0700, Drew wrote:
64 bit = more advance instruction set which replaces all the older 32
bit instruction set CPUs. 64 bit is more modern than 32 bit and that is
the way software is going.
64bit doesn't specifically make it more advanced. 64bit CPU's just
On Tue, 2011-08-23 at 19:38 -0700, Drew wrote:
The older ISA (now called PATA = Parallel ATA) has been replaced by SATA
(Serial ATA). SATA has 3 speeds. Most new disks are either SATA 2 or
SATA 3 speed.
IDE I assume you meant. :) ISA was the old bus PCI replaced.
Yes since IDE really
On 08/23/2011 10:37 PM Drew wrote:
What determines if it's a 64 bit machine? Dual core?
Dual core = 2 CPUs effectively.
Quad core = 4 CPUs on the same piece of Silicon
64 bit = more advance instruction set which replaces all the older 32
bit instruction set CPUs. 64 bit is more modern than
On 08/23/11 7:40 PM, Always Learning wrote:
Surely it is more than mere memory addressing, a logic problem which has
existed since the original 8088 (and perhaps the 4040), it is extra
instructions and a re-write of some existing instructions ?
the x86_64 architecture has teh same basic
On 08/23/11 9:21 PM, ken wrote:
I haven't looked up and compared the lists of instructions
on 32- vs. 64-bit CPUs, but generally the bigger processors have more,
and more sophisticated, instructions. This means, e.g., that instead of
taking 20 steps to do a calculation on a 32-bit CPU, it
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