Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Lanny Marcus wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: snip I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix problems on a remote box and that will probably require vi. Then you

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, August 11, 2008 7:20 PM -0500 Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then you shouldn't go wrong, because I have yet to be on a linux box or a bsd box that didn't have some form or emulation of vi installed. vi is everywhere! But, apparently, I need to learn how to use Emacs or

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Florin Andrei
MHR wrote: Vi is not the world's best editor Heh, understatement of the century. It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/her fired five minutes later. With no severance package. It's one of the

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:10 -0700 Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/her fired five minutes later. With no severance package. Viewed in the context of

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Florin Andrei
Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:10 -0700 Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/her fired five minutes later. With no severance package. Viewed in

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:48:10AM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: MHR wrote: Vi is not the world's best editor Heh, understatement of the century. It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/her

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:25:50 -0700 Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:10 -0700 Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the user interface, only to have the satisfaction

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Toby Bluhm
Florin Andrei wrote: Frank Cox wrote: On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 10:48:10 -0700 Florin Andrei [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the user interface, only to have the satisfaction of having him/her fired five minutes later. With no

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Florin Andrei
Well, when people start to fail to understand your metaphors (or switch to the uber-literal-minded mode and attack the imperfections in the comparisons you make, instead of debating the original topic), you know it's pointless to continue the discussion. ;-) But the way this discussion

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread William L. Maltby
On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 20:45 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 10:48:10AM -0700, Florin Andrei wrote: MHR wrote: Vi is not the world's best editor Heh, understatement of the century. It's an awful editor. I wish I could hire the person who came up with the

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Frank Cox
On Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:27:28 -0400 William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Or the stupid MS editor that used to come on DOS? Edlin was good for automated remote script generation over a serial connection. (We used to do kiosks with today's weather report and the special at the restaurant

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Mihai T. Lazarescu
On Tue, Aug 12, 2008 at 03:27:28PM -0400, William L. Maltby wrote: On Tue, 2008-08-12 at 20:45 +0200, Mihai T. Lazarescu wrote: An intuitive interface shortens the learning curve. An efficient interface becomes a concern after that. vi came to serve in an environment where most were

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Spiro Harvey, Knossos Networks Ltd
Edlin aarrgh my eyes... I don't know who to credit the quote to, but I think it's best described by: Windows. From the company that brought you edlin. -- Spiro Harvey Knossos Networks Ltd 021-295-1923www.knossos.net.nz

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-12 Thread Nifty Cluster Mitch
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 07:20:22PM -0500, Lanny Marcus wrote: On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: snip I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix problems on

[CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Scott Silva
on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: On Sun, Aug 10, 2008 at 9:07 PM, Vaclav Mocek little.owl-PkL3B3/[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lanny Marcus wrote: I downloaded the .pdf version of Thinking in C++ and I've begun to read that and I did yum groupinstall 'Development Tools' I'm

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread Lanny Marcus
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Scott Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 8-11-2008 9:06 AM Lanny Marcus spake the following: snip I will look at Eclipse, but one of my goals is to be able to fix problems on a remote box and that will probably require vi. Then you shouldn't go wrong, because

Re: [CentOS] Re: gcc editor for newbie (Emacs or vim or ?)

2008-08-11 Thread MHR
On Mon, Aug 11, 2008 at 5:20 PM, Lanny Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: vi is everywhere! But, apparently, I need to learn how to use Emacs or another IDE too, so there's another learning curve. I've been using vi (and vim and gvim) for more than twenty years and I've never needed an IDE.