Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2011-04-16 Thread Kai Schaetzl
John Doe wrote on Thu, 22 Jul 2010 02:25:13 -0700 (PDT): And that running in PAE would slow down some processes. The overhead is minimal, if you want those extra 700 MB, do it. Kai ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-23 Thread John Doe
From: Hakan Koseoglu ha...@koseoglu.org In the past, I heard that these 700MB were normally reserved for bios or chipset It still is, even with with 64 bit. If your motherboard supports remapping this memory with 64 bit you can use the whole 4GB. Otherwise you're limited to 3.2:

[CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread John Doe
Hi, I was wondering if anyone would know the cons of running a PAE kernel...? I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going the PAE way to gain those exta 700MB... In the past, I heard that these 700MB were normally reserved for bios or chipset stuff... And that running in PAE would

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Peter Kjellstrom
On Thursday 22 July 2010, John Doe wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone would know the cons of running a PAE kernel...? I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going the PAE way to gain those exta 700MB... In the past, I heard that these 700MB were normally reserved for bios or

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Warren Young
PAE. Keep in mind that PAE is Pentium Pro era technology. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Kevin Krieser
a better idea than PAE. Keep in mind that PAE is Pentium Pro era technology. ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Markus Falb
On 22/07/2010 19:07, Warren Young wrote: On 7/22/2010 3:25 AM, John Doe wrote: I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going the PAE way to gain those exta 700MB... Very few programs can use PAE to get at that extra RAM. Can the programs you run do this? What is a program

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Joseph L. Casale
What is a program supposed to do to get at that extra RAM then ? Just curious ;-) AFAIK, it must be specifically compiled for it... ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 17:58 +, Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is a program supposed to do to get at that extra RAM then ? Just curious ;-) AFAIK, it must be specifically compiled for it... --- A PAE enabled Kernel: NO. It is dependent on the mmap() call in the program as in how the

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
JD, On 22/07/10 10:25, John Doe wrote: I was wondering if anyone would know the cons of running a PAE kernel...? I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going the PAE way to gain those exta 700MB... You should use 64 bit if possible but if you're seeing 3.2GB, it's more likely that

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 22/07/10 18:07, Warren Young wrote: Very few programs can use PAE to get at that extra RAM. Can the programs you run do this? With PAE you can utilize all of the extra RAM but each individual program will be limited to 3GB user space, you can fit a more of them into 16GB, still using 32

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Markus Falb
management is a kernel task after all, isnt it ? The kernel has to be compiled for PAE, of course. What I want to say: I do not know about programming techniqes to exploit PAE. -- Regards, Markus ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Keith Roberts
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010, Markus Falb wrote: To: centos@centos.org From: Markus Falb markus.f...@fasel.at Subject: Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE... On 22/07/2010 19:07, Warren Young wrote: On 7/22/2010 3:25 AM, John Doe wrote: I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 19:43 +0100, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: On 22/07/10 18:07, Warren Young wrote: Very few programs can use PAE to get at that extra RAM. Can the programs you run do this? With PAE you can utilize all of the extra RAM but each individual program will be limited to 3GB user

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Drew
I was wondering if anyone would know the cons of running a PAE kernel...? I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going the PAE way to gain those exta 700MB... You should use 64 bit if possible but if you're seeing 3.2GB, it's more likely that your motherboard is not capable (I have

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Les Mikesell
On 7/22/2010 1:50 PM, Markus Falb wrote: On 22/07/2010 19:58, Joseph L. Casale wrote: What is a program supposed to do to get at that extra RAM then ? Just curious ;-) AFAIK, it must be specifically compiled for it... I always thought PAE is quite transparent thing for user programs. PAE

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Markus Falb
On 22/07/2010 11:25, John Doe wrote: Hi, I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going the PAE way to gain those exta 700MB... In the past, I heard that these 700MB were normally reserved for bios or chipset stuff... I installed a 32 bit centos and with the non-pae kernel

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread ken
On 07/22/2010 02:39 PM Hakan Koseoglu wrote: JD, On 22/07/10 10:25, John Doe wrote: I was wondering if anyone would know the cons of running a PAE kernel...? I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going the PAE way to gain those exta 700MB... You should use 64 bit if possible but

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 17:33 -0400, ken wrote: On 07/22/2010 02:39 PM Hakan Koseoglu wrote: JD, On 22/07/10 10:25, John Doe wrote: I was wondering if anyone would know the cons of running a PAE kernel...? I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going the PAE way to gain those

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread ken
On 07/22/2010 05:43 PM JohnS wrote: On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 17:33 -0400, ken wrote: On 07/22/2010 02:39 PM Hakan Koseoglu wrote: JD, On 22/07/10 10:25, John Doe wrote: I was wondering if anyone would know the cons of running a PAE kernel...? I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Kevin Krieser
On Jul 22, 2010, at 12:51 PM, Markus Falb wrote: On 22/07/2010 19:07, Warren Young wrote: On 7/22/2010 3:25 AM, John Doe wrote: I have a 4GB pc and was wondering if it was worth going the PAE way to gain those exta 700MB... Very few programs can use PAE to get at that extra RAM. Can

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 17:55 -0400, ken wrote: On 07/22/2010 05:43 PM JohnS wrote: I'm trying to catch up... Is the 737M cached (in the output above) what is reserved for bios or chipset...? and what is gained back through remapping? --- The 737 is for Programs and Applications use and not

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
On 22/07/10 22:33, ken wrote: Is the 737M cached (in the output above) what is reserved for bios or chipset...? and what is gained back through remapping? Nope, it simply means even if I had 2GB RAM, there'd be plenty I'm not using for anything but cache - I don't do much on this laptop but

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread Hakan Koseoglu
Hi John, On 22/07/10 19:56, JohnS wrote: Try about 69Gbytes What are you fiddling with? limits.conf? I think you read my mail too quickly and wrote a reply in similar speed. :) So did I read the original post too quickly and didn't realise he was complaining about the memory hole... You're

Re: [CentOS] To PAE or not to PAE...

2010-07-22 Thread JohnS
On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 23:42 +0100, Hakan Koseoglu wrote: Hi John, On 22/07/10 19:56, JohnS wrote: Try about 69Gbytes What are you fiddling with? limits.conf? I think you read my mail too quickly and wrote a reply in similar speed. :) So did I read the original post too quickly and didn't