Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-16 Thread Devin Reade
--On Saturday, February 13, 2016 03:24:53 PM -0500 David Both wrote: However, Devin, the answer to your question [...] For the record, I didn't ask the question; I only posted the original heads-up. That was Tim Murphy asking the question. Watch the

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On 02/15/2016 02:12 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: It is so great to hear that! I was shushed a few times by modern experts - I bet on this list too - about following ancient practices and having more than just / partition... so I felt myself as a relic dinosaur ... On a public-facing server I

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On 02/13/2016 03:50 PM, John R Pierce wrote: I still like making /home its own file system, and if I'm running a substantial (non-trivial) database server, it also has its own volume, quite likely on its own raid. I've done this for close to 20 years (19 years this April, to be exact); my

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-16 Thread Lamar Owen
On 02/13/2016 04:19 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: On Sat, February 13, 2016 2:24 pm, David Both wrote: +1 Valeri. I agree that things have changed a lot! _things_ changed? I wouldn't quite agree. It is people who have changed definitely. 'Things have changed' is idiomatic English for the passive

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-15 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Mon, February 15, 2016 1:00 pm, Ricardo J. Barberis wrote: > El Sábado 13/02/2016, Valeri Galtsev escribió: >> On Sat, February 13, 2016 2:50 pm, John R Pierce wrote: >> > On 2/13/2016 12:19 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> >> It is interesting to observe how perceptions are changing over time. >>

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-15 Thread Ricardo J. Barberis
El Sábado 13/02/2016, Valeri Galtsev escribió: > On Sat, February 13, 2016 2:50 pm, John R Pierce wrote: > > On 2/13/2016 12:19 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > >> It is interesting to observe how perceptions are changing over time. > >> Decade or two ago we were partitioning small then drives (thus

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-13 Thread Timothy Murphy
Devin Reade wrote: > I have a CentOS 6 machine that was initially installed as CentOS 6.4 > in May of 2013. It's /boot filesystem is 200M which, IIRC, was the > default /boot size at the time. As a matter of interest, is there any advantage today in having a /boot partition? I thought it went

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-13 Thread Robert Nichols
On 02/13/2016 05:57 AM, Timothy Murphy wrote: Devin Reade wrote: I have a CentOS 6 machine that was initially installed as CentOS 6.4 in May of 2013. It's /boot filesystem is 200M which, IIRC, was the default /boot size at the time. As a matter of interest, is there any advantage today in

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, February 13, 2016 5:57 am, Timothy Murphy wrote: > Devin Reade wrote: > >> I have a CentOS 6 machine that was initially installed as CentOS 6.4 >> in May of 2013. It's /boot filesystem is 200M which, IIRC, was the >> default /boot size at the time. > > As a matter of interest, is there

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-13 Thread David Both
+1 Valeri. I agree that things have changed a lot! However, Devin, the answer to your question is that the /boot partition is a necessity in a LVM environment, which everything else is by default. The /boot partition cannot be a logical volume; it must be a raw disk partition with an EXT[34]

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-13 Thread John R Pierce
On 2/13/2016 12:19 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: It is interesting to observe how perceptions are changing over time. Decade or two ago we were partitioning small then drives (thus loosing some of the space) just to separate regular users from those places vital for secure and reliable running of

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, February 13, 2016 2:24 pm, David Both wrote: > +1 Valeri. I agree that things have changed a lot! _things_ changed? I wouldn't quite agree. It is people who have changed definitely. As far as things are concerned, they have changed a lot, but not fundamentally. Disks are huge, but they

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-13 Thread Valeri Galtsev
On Sat, February 13, 2016 2:50 pm, John R Pierce wrote: > On 2/13/2016 12:19 PM, Valeri Galtsev wrote: >> It is interesting to observe how perceptions are changing over time. >> Decade or two ago we were partitioning small then drives (thus loosing >> some of the space) just to separate regular

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-13 Thread Always Learning
On Sat, 2016-02-13 at 15:19 -0600, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > _things_ changed? I wouldn't quite agree. It is people who have changed > definitely. As far as things are concerned, they have changed a lot, but > not fundamentally. Disks are huge, but they still are not infinite. Number > of inodes

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-12 Thread Mike - st257
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 1:19 PM, Devin Reade wrote: > I have a CentOS 6 machine that was initially installed as CentOS 6.4 > in May of 2013. It's /boot filesystem is 200M which, IIRC, was the > default /boot size at the time. > Hmm, for some reason I decided on ~500MB /boot on

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-11 Thread Oscar Osta Pueyo
Hello, I always used 500~512 with yum configured for clean kernels installation = 2. Best regards, El dia 11/02/2016 8:25 p. m., va escriure: > Chris Murphy wrote: > > Default boot volume on Fedora is 500M, with a kernel installonly_limit > > of 3. So far this seems

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-11 Thread Chris Murphy
Default boot volume on Fedora is 500M, with a kernel installonly_limit of 3. So far this seems sufficient, even accounting for the "rescue kernel" (which is really a nohostonly initramfs, which is quite a bit larger than the standard hostonly initramfs used for numbered kernels).

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-11 Thread m . roth
Chris Murphy wrote: > Default boot volume on Fedora is 500M, with a kernel installonly_limit > of 3. So far this seems sufficient, even accounting for the "rescue > kernel" (which is really a nohostonly initramfs, which is quite a bit > larger than the standard hostonly initramfs used for numbered

[CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-11 Thread Devin Reade
I have a CentOS 6 machine that was initially installed as CentOS 6.4 in May of 2013. It's /boot filesystem is 200M which, IIRC, was the default /boot size at the time. The most recent kernel update (2.6.32-573.18.1.el6) fails because of lack of space in /boot. The workaround is edit

Re: [CentOS] heads up: /boot space on kernel upgrade

2016-02-11 Thread m . roth
Devin Reade wrote: > I have a CentOS 6 machine that was initially installed as CentOS 6.4 > in May of 2013. It's /boot filesystem is 200M which, IIRC, was the > default /boot size at the time. > > The most recent kernel update (2.6.32-573.18.1.el6) fails because of > lack of space in /boot. The