Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-30 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:28 PM, William L. Maltby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 18:38 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: snip I'm sitting with a very expensive paper weight right now, and I don't know what todo. The same websites are running very well on a machine with a Gigabyte

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-30 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 8:17 PM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rudi Ahlers wrote: I got the components cheaper from another supplier / importer / retailer than from Dell directly. And really, how can KingMax RAM or Seagate HDD's from one supplier be better than from another

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-30 Thread Les Mikesell
Rudi Ahlers wrote: It has nothing todo with he doesn't want anyone elses parts in the system he sells and warranties because he doesn't want to be be responsible for fixing ensuing problems. he's selling stuff he knows works I'm confused. Aren't you the same person who just put together

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-30 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Mon, Dec 1, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Les Mikesell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rudi Ahlers wrote: It has nothing todo with he doesn't want anyone elses parts in the system he sells and warranties because he doesn't want to be be responsible for fixing ensuing problems. he's selling stuff he knows

RE: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-21 Thread RobertH
Sorry, I overlooked that. Doesn't change the rest of what I wrote, though. Kai kai, dont be sorry, i miss things in email here and there too. im make more *general* mistakes than anyone ive ever met. yet, when such inexpensive, need meeting, industrial hardware is available, i

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-21 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 9:31 PM, Kai Schaetzl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: RobertH wrote on Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:15:03 -0800: DL380 G3 Dual And how does he squeeze that in 1U? AFAIR, Rudi's located in South Africa and has already stated several times that prices there for servergrade stuff are

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-21 Thread William L. Maltby
On Fri, 2008-11-21 at 18:38 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: snip I'm sitting with a very expensive paper weight right now, and I don't know what todo. The same websites are running very well on a machine with a Gigabyte G31MX-S motherboard + 4GB DDRII 800 RAM + C2D 6750 CPU. This is what baffles

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-21 Thread Rob Townley
Does this system have shared video/system RAM? If you have video memory shared with system memory, there is going to be memory that can't be tested unless you rotate memory chips or put in a vga card. In memtest+ 2.10 configuration, set for no reserved memory and watch the memtest corrupt the

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-21 Thread nate
Rob Townley wrote: i have some several year old DL360's and ML370's and love em - especially hw raid, but i my local supplier hasn't had any for several months. Uptil a few months ago, password reset info on ebay was sent in the clear, so i have a very hard time trusting ebay. It would be

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-21 Thread John R Pierce
Rudi Ahlers wrote: I got the components cheaper from another supplier / importer / retailer than from Dell directly. And really, how can KingMax RAM or Seagate HDD's from one supplier be better than from another supplier? I only use the recommended types, i.e ECC (non registered), and Seagate

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-21 Thread Les Mikesell
Rudi Ahlers wrote: I'm sitting with a very expensive paper weight right now, and I don't know what todo. The same websites are running very well on a machine with a Gigabyte G31MX-S motherboard + 4GB DDRII 800 RAM + C2D 6750 CPU. This is what baffles me, how can the same load on a slower

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-20 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 11:48 PM, Guy Boisvert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rudi Ahlers wrote: John, I know what ECC does. I have 2 Dell PE860 servers with 8GB ECC DDRII RAM as well, and they're both giving RAM problems. I had top swap-out the RAM 2 times with the suppliers already, and swapped

RE: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-20 Thread RobertH
I wasn't rejecting server grade hardware. I was a bit irritated by the fact that I don't have server grade hardware, and every says get proper hardware. It ticked me off a bit that only a server can be good, and not a standard desktop which is also used to serve content to many

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-20 Thread Kai Schaetzl
RobertH wrote on Thu, 20 Nov 2008 09:15:03 -0800: DL380 G3 Dual And how does he squeeze that in 1U? AFAIR, Rudi's located in South Africa and has already stated several times that prices there for servergrade stuff are not as cheap as you can get it in some other areas of the world. May

RE: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-20 Thread RobertH
And how does he squeeze that in 1U? AFAIR, Rudi's located in South Africa and has already stated several times that prices there for servergrade stuff are not as cheap as you can get it in some other areas of the world. May apply for Ebay deliveries to SA as well (if they ship at

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-20 Thread Kai Schaetzl
[EMAIL PROTECTED] RobertH wrote on Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:09:58 -0800: you ask how does a DL380 G3 fit in 1U? not a bright question. dont care. :-) all previous info was FYI it was noted in the email the DL360 G3 unit as well. it is 1U Sorry, I overlooked that. Doesn't change the rest

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-19 Thread Guy Boisvert
Rudi Ahlers wrote: John, just cause the machines we use to serve web content to our clients doesn't use the grade of equipment you prefer to use, and can afford, doesn't mean equipment that other people use is inferior, or worthless. I have a problem with one of my machines, and have narrowed

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-19 Thread Guy Boisvert
Rudi Ahlers wrote: John, I know what ECC does. I have 2 Dell PE860 servers with 8GB ECC DDRII RAM as well, and they're both giving RAM problems. I had top swap-out the RAM 2 times with the suppliers already, and swapped out a motherboard on the one of the servers. Honestly, ECC isn't my

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread Rainer Duffner
Rudi Ahlers schrieb: Hi all, I have a server, with an Intel DG35EC motherboard, Q9300 CPU, 8GB Kingston DDRII RAM which can't take a lot of load. I have 4 XEN VPS's on there, which doesn't consume more than 4GBM RAM at this stage. Yet, the machine sky rockets at some times. I've moved the

OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Tru Huynh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:52:15AM +0100, Rainer Duffner wrote: Rudi Ahlers schrieb: Hi all, ... So, apart from memtest86 how else can I stress test the server to find out what the problem is? http://oca.microsoft.com/en/windiag.asp (Yeah, it's MSFT - but I heard good things

Re: OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Tru Huynh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 09:52:15AM +0100, Rainer Duffner wrote: Rudi Ahlers schrieb: Hi all, ... So, apart from memtest86 how else can I stress test the server to find out what the problem is?

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 10:24 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rudi Ahlers wrote: John, just cause the machines we use to serve web content to our clients doesn't use the grade of equipment you prefer to use, and can afford, doesn't mean equipment that other people use is inferior,

Re: OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Rainer Duffner
Rudi Ahlers schrieb: I don't use Windows, so this wouldn't have helped in anycase :) It's a boot CD... Rainer ___ CentOS mailing list CentOS@centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos

Re: OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:36 AM, Rainer Duffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rudi Ahlers schrieb: I don't use Windows, so this wouldn't have helped in anycase :) It's a boot CD... Rainer ___ Oh, my bad. I saw the microsoft.com URL :) --

Re: OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Tru Huynh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:19:51AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I don't use Windows, so this wouldn't have helped in anycase :) It's a diag floppy/cdrom, you don't need windows... except to expand it to the media. Read at least the url! Rudi, you have a strange attitude: - you ask for help for

Re: OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Tru Huynh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:19:51AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I don't use Windows, so this wouldn't have helped in anycase :) It's a diag floppy/cdrom, you don't need windows... except to expand it to the media. Read at

Re: OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:55 AM, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:47 AM, Tru Huynh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:19:51AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I don't use Windows, so this wouldn't have helped in anycase :) It's a diag floppy/cdrom,

Re: OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Rainer Duffner
Rudi Ahlers schrieb: Oh, and don't take this the wrong way, but the link to a microsoft related program (in my opinion) is even more OT. Isn't there something similar for Linux that I can use? I'd prefer not to go the Windows route, if that's ok with you. SPEC 2006 ;-))) Rainer

Re: OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Tru Huynh
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 11:55:58AM +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: Tru, The hardware works, but the moment I start running server based application (i.e. XEN VPS's), then the load goes very high. install sysstat and read the collected data with sar(1). Check for your IOwait. You don't provide any

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread Kai Schaetzl
Rudi Ahlers wrote on Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:25:31 +0200: But, how can I put a LOT of load onto it, and see what's causing the problem http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/programs/ab.html as a starter Kai -- Kai Schätzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services:

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread Barry Brimer
So, apart from memtest86 how else can I stress test the server to find out what the problem is? Have you looked at Inquisitor? There is a nice article about it which includes a download link at http://www.linux.com/articles/149774 Hope this helps. Barry

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread Filipe Brandenburger
Hi Rudi, On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:13, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...which can't take a lot of load... ...the machine sky rockets at some times... The problem you have is that the Load Average is too high? If that is indeed your problem, there is no way that this can be a memory or

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 3:58 PM, Filipe Brandenburger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rudi, On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 02:13, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ...which can't take a lot of load... ...the machine sky rockets at some times... The problem you have is that the Load Average is too

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread David G. Mackay
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 16:48 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: I have the exact same setup on a few other machines, using Gigabyte motherboards + 4GB RAM. Other than that, the HDD's are the same, the OS is the same, and HyperVM is the same. I basically run yum upgrade once a week on all the machines.

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread nate
Rudi Ahlers wrote: Hi all, I have a server, with an Intel DG35EC motherboard, Q9300 CPU, 8GB Kingston DDRII RAM which can't take a lot of load. I have 4 XEN VPS's on there, which doesn't consume more than 4GBM RAM at this stage. Yet, the machine sky rockets at some times. I've moved the XEN

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread Rudi Ahlers
I think I mentioned this already but I use the Cerberus test suite http://sourceforge.net/projects/va-ctcs/ Haven't had to use it in a while but works quite well, a lot of big OEMs use it as well for their burn in tests. For me it found problems much faster than memtest86. Apparently it was

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread Rudi Ahlers
I seem to recall that one of the differences between AMD and Intel virtualization is that AMD chips have additional memory management capabilities that are specific to virtualization on the CPU chip, where Intel processors require additional support circuitry. The fact that your problems

Re: OT: windiag (Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?)

2008-11-18 Thread Ross Walker
On Nov 18, 2008, at 5:11 AM, Rainer Duffner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rudi Ahlers schrieb: Oh, and don't take this the wrong way, but the link to a microsoft related program (in my opinion) is even more OT. Isn't there something similar for Linux that I can use? I'd prefer not to go

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-18 Thread Matthew Kent
On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 11:25 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote: But, how can I put a LOT of load onto it, and see what's causing the problem? For all I know, the motherboard could be faulty, or the CPU, or maybe even the SATA bus? stress! Configured correctly it will abuse a server pretty hard

[CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-17 Thread Rudi Ahlers
Hi all, I have a server, with an Intel DG35EC motherboard, Q9300 CPU, 8GB Kingston DDRII RAM which can't take a lot of load. I have 4 XEN VPS's on there, which doesn't consume more than 4GBM RAM at this stage. Yet, the machine sky rockets at some times. I've moved the XEN VPS's to another server,

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-17 Thread John R Pierce
Rudi Ahlers wrote: Hi all, I have a server, with an Intel DG35EC motherboard, Q9300 CPU, 8GB Kingston DDRII RAM which can't take a lot of load. I have 4 XEN VPS's on there, which doesn't consume more than 4GBM RAM at this stage. Yet, the machine sky rockets at some times. I've moved the XEN

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-17 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:19 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rudi Ahlers wrote: Hi all, I have a server, with an Intel DG35EC motherboard, Q9300 CPU, 8GB Kingston DDRII RAM which can't take a lot of load. I have 4 XEN VPS's on there, which doesn't consume more than 4GBM RAM at

Re: [CentOS] how can I stress a server?

2008-11-17 Thread Rudi Ahlers
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:27 AM, Rudi Ahlers [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 9:19 AM, John R Pierce [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rudi Ahlers wrote: Hi all, I have a server, with an Intel DG35EC motherboard, Q9300 CPU, 8GB Kingston DDRII RAM which can't take a lot of load. I